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Old 01-06-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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Soy milk, yay or nay

I hear and read mixed opinions, some credible others not so much, that suggest soy milk is bad fo rmen because of estrogen content.

Anyone know one way or the other? Maybe studies or anything? I have seen many good splenda/equal/etc studies being linked here before so I figured this would be the place to ask.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:30 AM   #2
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Last thing I read was that there has been no study subjects to proove this. I would like to know (link to) which is best.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:35 AM   #3
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:59 AM   #4
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Speaking from a purely logical standpoint, wouldn't any effect depend upon the dose, duration and timing? Only when something is put in a proper frame of reference can you possibly have a discussion that is remotely sensible.

While the evils of soy have been overblown, diets high in soy have been shown to have negative effects on testosterone, and various other hormones. However minor tallies should not pose a threat. Personally, I have no reason to go out of my way to consume it.

We could play PubMed ping-pong with pros and cons but without a frame of reference to you they are meaningless in application.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:24 PM   #5
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Normally I wouldn't go out of my way for such things but I am an occassional milk drinker, especially when taking a protein shake (water is just too blah for that) and I am lactose intolerant.

The other reason is that I just started keto (again) and I have found a light soy milk with 2g carbs per serving (8oz) so it would be convenient.

I understant that like anything else moderation would be the key but wanted to see if anyone here had the good scoop (or bad).

Thanks for the answers.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:30 PM   #6
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its fine just dont make it a main thing you drink, just in case.
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Normally I wouldn't go out of my way for such things but I am an occassional milk drinker, especially when taking a protein shake (water is just too blah for that) and I am lactose intolerant.

The other reason is that I just started keto (again) and I have found a light soy milk with 2g carbs per serving (8oz) so it would be convenient.

I understant that like anything else moderation would be the key but wanted to see if anyone here had the good scoop (or bad).

Thanks for the answers.
Very few things are inherently good or bad so there won't be a one size fits all scoop. Caffeine - good or bad? Jelly beans - good or bad? Depends. A glass or three will impart no ill effects. 100 glasses maybe so.
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When I was a kid I was sensitive to milk, so my mom fed my soy. And soy milk helped to replenish my estrogen levels in ed recovery without taking medications. But I don't have to anymore.

Soy milk has so many side effects though, I wouldn't drink it unless there was a medical purpose (menopause, etc.) Otherwise just drink water and get your calcium from vegetables and supplements.
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When I was a kid I was sensitive to milk, so my mom fed my soy. And soy milk helped to replenish my estrogen levels in ed recovery without taking medications. But I don't have to anymore.

Soy milk has so many side effects though, I wouldn't drink it unless there was a medical purpose (menopause, etc.) Otherwise just drink water and get your calcium from vegetables and supplements.
lol, bro.

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