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    Homosexuality is NOT a choice !!

    I'm getting sick of reading people saying its a choice when it clearly isn't. Maybe there is glaring holes in my logic but I see it like this :-

    Its similar to an instinct and not something you can just choose on a whim.

    There are two people (Jim & John) and a Chocolate Cake. Jim cuts himself a slice because chocolate tastes awesome and he can't think anything that tastes better, John on the other hand wretches at thought of anything with chocolate in. Are either of them choosing that they like or dislike chocolate ?, or is it just something that is beyond choice and do not have any power over ?.

    So the advocates of Homosexuality=Choice please explain to me how its a choice and not similar to my explanation above ?
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    Okay. No one with flu or a cold "has to" start taking vitamin C, zinc and chicken soup (jewish penicillin ), because you are entitled such sicknesses as you have. Thus you have that disease is not necessarily of your own choosing, but keeping it surely is the choice you have made.

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    Right, but acting upon it IS a choice.
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    Without getting into the moral aspect of homosexuality, you can't make the argument that just because someone likes something that it automatically is a valid and natural preference. I always hear the argument, "If being gay was a choice, do you think I would choose to be gay in this homophobic society?"

    There's something to be said for the innate standards society has created, most of them based on survival of the species. That's why we lock up criminals, even if the criminal says "I just like to steal, that's my choice."
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    Right, but acting upon it IS a choice.
    So, would you guys like all the homosexual's in the world to just pretend they aren't? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. They can either be themselves or live a lie.
    It doesn't even matter anyways. Jesus and Heavenly Father will always love them.
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    Okay. No one with flu or a cold "has to" start taking vitamin C, zinc and chicken soup (jewish penicillin ), because you are entitled such sicknesses as you have. Thus you have that disease is not necessarily of your own choosing, but keeping it surely is the choice you have made.

    So your comparing homosexuality to a common cold, sorry bud but there isn't any medicine that'll cure that particular 'sickness'. Also correct if I'm wrong but you can't catch teh 'ghey' virus.
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    Originally Posted by nonAtlas View Post
    Okay. No one with flu or a cold "has to" start taking vitamin C, zinc and chicken soup (jewish penicillin ), because you are entitled such sicknesses as you have. Thus you have that disease is not necessarily of your own choosing, but keeping it surely is the choice you have made.

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    So your comparing homosexuality to a common cold, sorry bud but there isn't any medicine that'll cure that particular 'sickness'. Also correct if I'm wrong but you can't catch teh 'ghey' virus.
    Jesus Christ can cure homosexuality.

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    yes, it is

    but there are some exceptions. if your abused at an early age by a man those type of things usually stick in your mind

    but other than something like that, yes it is a choice
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    Originally Posted by grizz101 View Post
    yes, it is

    but there are some exceptions. if your abused at an early age by a man those type of things usually stick in your mind

    but other than something like that, yes it is a choice
    So some poor soul might get raped and thinks to himself "Man, that was kinda nice. I'm gonna need some more of that".

    Yeah ok
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    So, would you guys like all the homosexual's in the world to just pretend they aren't? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. They can either be themselves or live a lie.
    It doesn't even matter anyways. Jesus and Heavenly Father will always love them.

    Great answer. And now the logical extension: Do you expect all the mass-murderers to just "pretend they aren't"? What's the fun in that?!

    Jesus was clear about being born again, forgiven and saved. It results from your choice to change your personal direction in life. And that doesn't include continuing along the path of the same sin all the days of your life.

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    So your comparing homosexuality to a common cold, sorry bud but there isn't any medicine that'll cure that particular 'sickness'. Also correct if I'm wrong but you can't catch teh 'ghey' virus.

    The common cold and flu are much more serious, as innocent people can be killed by them. Even babies and small children. But Jesus can and does heal all sicknesses.

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    Originally Posted by nonAtlas View Post
    Great answer. And now the logical extension: Do you expect all the mass-murderers to just "pretend they aren't"? What's the fun in that?!

    You really are a poopy face.
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    Originally Posted by nonAtlas View Post
    Great answer. And now the logical extension: Do you expect all the mass-murderers to just "pretend they aren't"? What's the fun in that?!

    Jesus was clear about being born again, forgiven and saved. It results from your choice to change your personal direction in life. And that doesn't include continuing along the path of the same sin all the days of your life.

    Mass murders harm, homo's don't (well they might if they are a bit over zealous in the act)
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    So some poor soul might get raped and thinks to himself "Man, that was kinda nice. I'm gonna need some more of that".

    Yeah ok
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    I know somebody thats happened too
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    You could think of gay people being attracted to other men just like straight people are attracted to women. I, for one, am simply not attracted to men. Why is it so hard to accept that some aren't attracted to women, but to men instead? Homosexuality is as natural as cancer.
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    The common cold and flu are much more serious, as innocent people can be killed by them. Even babies and small children. But Jesus can and does heal all sicknesses.

    Wrong Jesus does f*ck all, medicine helps where he doesn't.

    If Jesus 'healed all', believers would never need medicine.
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    Mass murders harm, homo's don't

    Really? What about "harming" themselves into eternal separation from the Savior? What about destroying society and eventually families and children?

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    Wrong Jesus does f*ck all, medicine helps where he doesn't.

    If Jesus 'healed all', believers would never need medicine.

    Wrong, buddy. Can you find me one case in the Gospel where a sick person came to Jesus and He refused to heal? You can't, because He healed every single sick person with whom He had contact. Thousands at a time, and He had time for every individual who had a special request. The Word of God never says we will not have to face the challenges of life, because we all do. But He also provided all the answers to these, including complete healing.

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    Really? What about "harming" themselves into eternal separation from the Savior? What about destroying society and eventually families and children?

    You care only about the individual RumpRanger or that class of people. Sorry but I can't limit it to that.

    Those who choose to practice homosexuality will always be loved by the savior. What we do in this life does have some affect on where we will end up - but there is always forgiveness.
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    You could think of gay people being attracted to other men just like straight people are attracted to women. I, for one, am simply not attracted to men. Why is it so hard to accept that some aren't attracted to women, but to men instead? Homosexuality is as natural as cancer.

    Yes. Cancer is a disease and it kills. It never strengthens or helps a body.

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    Really? What about "harming" themselves into eternal separation from the Savior? What about destroying society and eventually families and children?
    First prove that your savior is real ?.
    Provide examples or them destroying society aswell families and children !
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    That isn't the issue here.
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    Those who choose to practice homosexuality will always be loved by the savior. What we do in this life does have some affect on where we will end up - but there is always forgiveness.
    True, because every one of us lives with some kind of sin, and just like homosexuals, we keep doing it even though we know it's wrong. There's only one unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
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    Yes. Cancer is a disease and it kills. It never strengthens or helps a body.

    Way to go missing my point

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    First prove that your savior is real ?.
    Provide examples or them destroying society aswell families and children !

    A) Already done.
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    True, because every one of us lives with some kind of sin, and just like homosexuals, we keep doing it even though we know it's wrong. There's only one unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
    Right on.

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    Way to go missing my point


    Okay; help me out.
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    Originally Posted by nonAtlas View Post
    Wrong, buddy. Can you find me one case in the Gospel where a sick person came to Jesus and He refused to heal? You can't, because He healed every single sick person with whom He had contact. Thousands at a time, and He had time for every individual who had a special request. The Word of God never says we will not have to face the challenges of life, because we all do. But He also provided all the answers to these, including complete healing.

    Thats hardly evidence is it, its just words in a book. Even if he did heal people back then how is he doing it now ?.

    Your whole thought processes start with the assumption that the bible is actually true and factual, but in reality you have no proof any of it actually happened.
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    Way to go missing my point

    I think he does it on purpose.
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