Okay, so although I am 18 I have decided to give havoc a try. I no some might bash and think this is a stupid decision but I will deal with the consequences if they come up. I have friends who ran this (one was even 16 years old) saw amazing results and one even had a doctor check-up and he was fine. But back to the point?
This is what I plan on doing?
Havoc
Reversitol (pct)
Mass fx max. strength (run with reversitol after havoc)
And also buy horny goat weed powder to keep my libido up throughout all of this.
My question is do you think this sounds like a nice good plan, or nah? If not can you help me tighten this up so I can get this underway.
One other question too, when do you think I should start my pct? I?m still deciding on when, whats your suggestion?
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Thread: decision is made...
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10-05-2008, 06:32 PM #1
decision is made...
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10-05-2008, 06:33 PM #2
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10-05-2008, 06:35 PM #3
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10-05-2008, 06:35 PM #4
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10-05-2008, 06:38 PM #5
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10-05-2008, 06:39 PM #6
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10-05-2008, 06:44 PM #7
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10-05-2008, 06:49 PM #8
Alright, i kinda saw this coming...
to be honest im really nervous about doing it and its not in the books. i'm thinking about the balls, the future, and what it can do...its most likely not worth it. i did more research of past kids and some sounds bad. with that said, im not going to be an ignorant kid, i been lifing for about 3 years now, u guys no more so il take the advice of you guys. i **** with this or ph's...
HOWEVER, im still looking to get something to get me a over the top as my bench has been at 205 for 4-5 reps for quite some time...
what NATTY stack would you suggest...
i was thinking blue gene/blue up
or animal stak/animal pak
and possibly an activate xtreme/stocked stack. (most expensive but will use if clear and away better than others)
and yeah i wont lie their is that part in me that wants to still use the havoc but i will resist it knowing the possible effects, so with that said which natty stack would u suggest, and if not any of those three which one? and what results can i expect from them?
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10-05-2008, 07:02 PM #9
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10-05-2008, 07:03 PM #10
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10-05-2008, 07:14 PM #11
Not very adamant on the 21+ thing, but you do need a solid base before starting ph/ds. If you cant break a plateau of 205 x 4-5 reps then you are not ready. maybe if your repping 305 then we have a different story. I really think you should try to push your natural limits before you begin hormonal agents.
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10-05-2008, 07:14 PM #12
yeah i no. i decided NOT to go with havoc. like i said im going to just use a natural suppliments.
but like i said which natural stack would you suggest to me...
which is the best of these...
blue gene/blue up
animal stak/animal pak
activate xtreme/stoked
Or is there another one that is better?
Whats the best one out their? What would you suggest
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10-05-2008, 07:15 PM #13
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10-05-2008, 07:16 PM #14
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nnnnnnnooooooooooooo!!!!!
jus kiddin, but for real, i would reccomend you not do it, but if youve already got in your head that your gonna do it, then i wish ya good luck
*edit: jus read he decided to go with jus the test boosters, good choice. jus wait a few years for havocLast edited by mwcharger; 10-05-2008 at 07:29 PM.
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10-05-2008, 07:27 PM #15
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10-05-2008, 07:44 PM #16
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10-05-2008, 07:46 PM #17
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10-05-2008, 07:46 PM #18
all the things you have suggested there really can be taken together..
you should always be using a multi like animal pak/orange triad.. theres a couple others. animal stak would run great with the pak aswell and you could run the AX/stoked at the same time.
havent really read up about blue gene/up but they are for recovery arent they?
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10-05-2008, 07:55 PM #19
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10-05-2008, 08:05 PM #20
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