i think it would be impossible for me to bench 200 pounds

[evanwalker]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

I literally laughed my ass off, it's twitching in all it's overdeveloped fat glory.

After reading EVERY post, I have seen this is no longer a troll but an ignorant kid. This also makes me lol.

I AM a strong fat kid with good genes, and so is babyslayer. That does not, by any means, mean that anyone on this forum is stupid in regards to powerlifting. YOU work out, WE train. YOU give up on a set, WE bleed for that last rep. We never give ourselves ANYTHING, you seem to want to take EVERYTHING. That is why you are a weak puss with no nuts.

[Schism45]

All healthy males have the physical genetic capacity to bench 200 pounds.

You are just weak-minded.

[SirBash]

Your man card has been officially revoked
for bitching so much and being weaker than a 130lb girl... But mostly the bitching and refusing to take advice

^ this

Lol'd

[Newbtime]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

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these are my attributes:

- lazy
- irresponsible
- dumb
- very shy
- selfish
- unmotivated

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post424131251

[evanwalker]

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post424131251

owned. Owned forever.

[babyslayer]

you think you could write up one just for shits and giggles? i'll give you a dozen glazed donuts.

i have some general idea's about board press rom progession that i would use, probably some work with 50lbs over his bench max to some boards, dips, close grip bench, varios forms of shoulder press, rotator cuff work, allot of back work, trap work, rear delt work, technique and arch training work.

probably some kind of overload work like holding heavy weight at lockout, some planned over training, peaking, some diet work.


allot of posterior chain work to make his glutes biger for a bigger arch. allot of bodybuilding in general, and bulking, to put some mass on him.



prolly have him eating stupid ammounts of protein, and a ****load of carbs before and after lifting, along with a pre workout sup to boost energy to go with those carbs.

i have also been interested in trying some recovery stuff that i have been thinking about, but havent tried.


like a heavy workout, then like a quart of chocolate milk with whey mixed in and 2 big muffins and a bunch of bcaa's, then a hour later a short pump workout like light fly's, front and side raises, and tricep extensions, followed by some extreme stretching, and a ****load of whey, like 100 grams in watter, and a contrast shower.



also been considering some kind of training like using allot of volume, every other day, and when gains stop, taking away a little bit of volume, and when gains stop there, moving the days apart 1 day, and then taking away some volume, moving the days apart a little.


for instance, my lockouts weak, so i might do like

board press
4 405x?
3 405x?
2: 135x10 185x10 225x10 275x10 315x10 365x10 405x?

and id do that every other day until i no longer was making gains, might be a week before i stalled.

then id move it to 2 days between workouts, which would make my workouts stronger, so id stick with that until i no longer made gains.

then id move it to 3 days apart, so id be even stronger, and stick with that until my gains stopped.

then id cut the volume down, and start doing say
4 405x?
3 405x?
2: 135x10 185x10 225x10 275x10 315x4 365x3 405x?

so then with less volume id be even stronger, once i stopped making gains doing that i could drop it down to

4 405x?
3 405x?
2: 135x10 225x5 315x5 405x?

etc, training like that your basically guaranteed gains, because your gains are dependant on how often you train and how big your warm up is.


now thats not a perfect example, im sure i would manipulate the weight on the board presses, and perhaps use some form of progresive ROM training, and maybe do a back down set.


like start at a 4 board, repping 495, then the week after a 3.5 board, then a 3 board, etc.



another way to combine the two would be to do


4 board: 365xmax reps
2 days off
4 board 405xmax reps
3 days off
4 board 455xmax reps
4 days off
4 board 495xmax reps
2 days off-

repeat using a 3.5 board


with 4 workouts per board height, which should be plenty for progresive rom training.

combined with more and more time off as the weight gets havier, should allow for recovery, as 4 days off would allot me to completley recover.


and i wouldnt just use a 4 board, 4 board could be my first exercise, but then i could use a 3 board, 2 board, and 1 board. i would start off with a weight i could easily do for high reps off a 1 board, but as the time went on i would add 5-10lbs a workout, which would add up very fast.

what i could do, is start out at 365 for the back down sets on a 3 board, 2 board, and 1 board, and add 10lbs each workout for a full board rotation (4 workouts) but then on the next rotation, i could bring my grip in 1 finger on each side. soon i would be hitting the same reps as i was doing with a wide grip, using a close grip.


just some idea's i have been pondering...


nothing is set in stone yet, but i think il be able to get something worth while out of that general idea.

[evanwalker]

Good luck paypalling a dozen glazed doughnuts.

[Cdoggbench225]

its all about form and do lots of forced reps and stick with a routine for a while, or do more sets.

[viperman5000]

workout thing

repped. come to ohio and i'll buy you those donuts. shit, i'll even throw in a gallon of chocolate milk.

[viperman5000]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

no, we tried to help. you didn't listen. just like every other person who comes in here asking for help.

now i ask that you kindly please gtfo.

[Warm_Sun]

no, we tried to help. you didn't listen. just like every other person who comes in here asking for help.

now i ask that you kindly please gtfo.

what help? demanding 50 ****ing bucks from me? gtfo.

telling me im a "pussy".
that my "form is wrong".
im not trying hard enough.
i dont care enough.

its the same bull crap sprayed by people to make THEMSELVES feel better.

[crono35]

First off, if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. Everyone has their reasons for being in the gym, but nobody sees results if they're not motivated.

The title of this thread suggests that you're not motivated.

Everyone hits plateaus, everyone has moments where they doubt themselves; hopefully for you this is just one of those moments. The longer you think the way you do, the longer it will take for you to bench 200. Doesn't matter what program you follow or what you eat or what you supplement with, the first thing that needs to change is your attitude.

I understand that when you've been seeing no progress for so long it's easy to become pessimistic, but it's these doubts that separate the lifelong lifters from the occasional gym goer. I've been pretty dedicated for about 2 years now, and I'm going into my first cutting cycle. I'll admit it is downright SAD to see the pictures that come out at the end of the week sometimes. Yes, it's tough sticking to something when the results don't seem to be in front of you, but if you want it enough, it's yours.

Long story short, chances are it's not your genetics. If you don't have one yet, find a dedicated workout partner; a bit of friendly competition can be very useful, as well as an experienced spotter.

[MotherSuperior]

Do this bench routine properly one day a week. I would suggest pause benching on the lower weight sets atleast the first three. Also, eat alot. Most of all make sure you are doing them properly and write down your workouts in a training log of some sort. This should get you to atleast the 180lb range.

week 1 85x5 90x5 100x5 105x5 115x5
2 90x5 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5
3 85x5 90x5 100x5 105x5 115x5
4 90x5 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5
5 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5
6 90x5 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5
7 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5
8 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5
9 100x5 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5
10 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5
11 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5 145x5
12 105x5 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5
13 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5 145x5
14 120x5 130x5 140x5 145x5 155x5
15 115x5 120x5 130x5 140x5 145x5
16 120x5 130x5 140x5 145x5 155x5

P.S. I wish I could get on youtube and finds some vids of 160ish pound guys doing 600lb deadlifts. I know of a few guys like that. They are not genetic freaks, they just worked really hard and properly.

[viperman5000]

This. There's no reason an adult male can't work towards a 200 or 300lb bench. I don't care what you say you've done. If you train/eat with any one of the regulars here you'd be at 225 in less than a year

This. Do a real program

Hahahaha. Yeah, none of those routines contain the words "Ed Coan Bench" or "Bill Starr's 5x5". I benched 155 as a skinny 13 year old. Literally half my current weight. I'm sure it's possible for a grown man to do.

Try ping pong

post your diet and workout, and i'll tweak it for you free of charge.

I think part of your problem seems to be that you can not stick with a program. Also post up a vid of your form maybe there is a problem there.

Instead of paying $50 to babyslayer, you could just read the stickies.

First off, if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. Everyone has their reasons for being in the gym, but nobody sees results if they're not motivated.

The title of this thread suggests that you're not motivated.

Everyone hits plateaus, everyone has moments where they doubt themselves; hopefully for you this is just one of those moments. The longer you think the way you do, the longer it will take for you to bench 200. Doesn't matter what program you follow or what you eat or what you supplement with, the first thing that needs to change is your attitude.

I understand that when you've been seeing no progress for so long it's easy to become pessimistic, but it's these doubts that separate the lifelong lifters from the occasional gym goer. I've been pretty dedicated for about 2 years now, and I'm going into my first cutting cycle. I'll admit it is downright SAD to see the pictures that come out at the end of the week sometimes. Yes, it's tough sticking to something when the results don't seem to be in front of you, but if you want it enough, it's yours.

Long story short, chances are it's not your genetics. If you don't have one yet, find a dedicated workout partner; a bit of friendly competition can be very useful, as well as an experienced spotter.

and the best piece of advice came from a guy who only has 5 posts. start listening, or leave.

[Warm_Sun]

First off, if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. Everyone has their reasons for being in the gym, but nobody sees results if they're not motivated.

The title of this thread suggests that you're not motivated.

Everyone hits plateaus, everyone has moments where they doubt themselves; hopefully for you this is just one of those moments. The longer you think the way you do, the longer it will take for you to bench 200. Doesn't matter what program you follow or what you eat or what you supplement with, the first thing that needs to change is your attitude.

I understand that when you've been seeing no progress for so long it's easy to become pessimistic, but it's these doubts that separate the lifelong lifters from the occasional gym goer. I've been pretty dedicated for about 2 years now, and I'm going into my first cutting cycle. I'll admit it is downright SAD to see the pictures that come out at the end of the week sometimes. Yes, it's tough sticking to something when the results don't seem to be in front of you, but if you want it enough, it's yours.

Long story short, chances are it's not your genetics. If you don't have one yet, find a dedicated workout partner; a bit of friendly competition can be very useful, as well as an experienced spotter.

how i could i be working out week in week our for 5 years with barely any results and not be motivated????!!!!!!

how many people you know you would continue training after getting the pathetic results ive gotten???

most people in my position just give up (they are probably the smart ones).

im not a hard gainer, IM A NO GAINER. nothing has happened! im too embarrassed now to tell people i work out. i hear people at work saying stupid things like tricep pull downs work your abs real good, even though my knowledge on bodybuilding is a 100 times better than theres, i dont say sh!t because who the **** would listen to some twig?

im complaining NOW because this has turned into insanity!!!!! what kind of person in their right mind would not complain after busting their goddam asses for years for no results? if i had put in the same effort in bodybuilding as i did in getting a PHD, i would have complete it by now and be working on 100k a year job.

[Achilles-]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

i have far from good genes. thanks for replying to my previous post, can't discredit it *******.

why would i stick to a program for more than 12 weeks if i havent gained any strength? that would be madness, then i really WOULD be wasting my time. form? im looking for strength gains, not techniques that would make me bench 10 pounds heavier just from how i hold the bar.

its not about technique cheating its about you cannot ****ing possibly move a heavy ass weight if your doing the ****ing technique wrong. you cannot ****ing lift inefficently, using weaker muscles to move the weight when the lift is designed to be primarily moved by big muscles

.....

**** off....you think im gonna pay 50 bucks up front to a random guy on the internet? this isnt about money anyway, this is about proving a point. ill do your routine, ill do everything exactly what you say. im willing to video record every work out. hell, if i add 50 pounds to my bench ill give you MORE than 50 bucks. money is nothing here. if someone can prove to me that it is POSSIBLE, i can continue trying to fulfill my life long goal, thats worth more than 50 bucks. im not going to give money away randomly....im not stupid.

take a ****ing video of you benching or your obviously just here to troll.

[koyongi]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

Yeah, everyone here is a huge guy that's dumb. Refer to my last post. Obviously people with great genetics will be able to achieve more in the long run with the same work as someone with inferior genes, but the point of that post was that ANY guy can bench 200. Probably any girl, if they weren't scared to put a little weight on.

why would i stick to a program for more than 12 weeks if i havent gained any strength? that would be madness, then i really WOULD be wasting my time. form? im looking for strength gains, not techniques that would make me bench 10 pounds heavier just from how i hold the bar.

If you're not looking to do things correctly, then you DON'T care. And you stick with a program for more than 12 weeks because Rome wasn't built in a day. I was benching 155 at 130 when I was 19 or 20. That next 50 pounds took 8 years. That's a lot longer than 12 weeks. And that's WITH freakish bench genes.

[TrettinR]

and alas, the point of my thread is clearly proven. bunch of ****ing meat heads with good genes acting like they get good results because they "know better". its all about genetics, theres a reason why people associate big guys as being dumb, because it doesnt take brains to get big, it takes genetics.

Stop blaming your god damn genetics. My mom weighed 105lbs when she graduated high school, my dad weighed 155lbs and prolly couldn't bench 135! I do NOT have the right parents for powerlifting, do I ****ing care?!? No, I go in the gym and bust my ass everyday. I eat until I wanna puke quite often. I do programs and eat food most human beings wouldn't enjoy because I want to be the best. Yes your genetics might hold you back but stop using it as a god damn crutch! I was born with a god damn hole in my spine and I can squat nearly 600 lbs, sack up. There are other people on this board with terrible genetics, or diseases or disorders or bad injuries who don't make the excuses you do!

Also maybe you should get some blood work done, because any healthy 24
year old should be able to make gains if they are doing the things you swear you are
doing.

Oh, and don't go around talking **** about intelligence. There are some damn smart
people on these message boards. Many college grads, many post grad, lawyers, med students, etc. So just STFU with that meathead mentality and grow a pair and stop making excuses.

[crono35]

are you eating over 5k calories a day?

I have a friend who is 5'11 and used to weigh 110, it was pretty disgusting really.

I trained with him for about one and a half years, and he was benching 225 by the end. I think he weighed around 150 at the time. The point is, if there ever was a walking ectomorph stereotype, he was it.

I understand your need to vent. 5 years is a long time to do something that doesn't seem to be doing anything for you. However, once you're done feeling sorry for yourself, it's time to focus on getting your 200 lb bench. I hit a 315 bench about a year and a half ago, and haven't gone up since, even when bulking. I don't know what's causing this current plateau, but it's not going to keep me from going into the gym come next June and try again.

When it comes to training, there are 3 main things involved in gaining strength: the amount of weight you move, your form, and the amount of time that weight is under tension. If you're eating right, and all three of the above are in check, try varying what you can.

Also, when's the last time you took a week off from working out? Before trying any new program, I usually take a week off from lifting to make sure I'm not going in already weakened.

how i could i be working out week in week our for 5 years with barely any results and not be motivated????!!!!!!

how many people you know you would continue training after getting the pathetic results ive gotten???

most people in my position just give up (they are probably the smart ones).

im not a hard gainer, IM A NO GAINER. nothing has happened! im too embarrassed now to tell people i work out. i hear people at work saying stupid things like tricep pull downs work your abs real good, even though my knowledge on bodybuilding is a 100 times better than theres, i dont say sh!t because who the **** would listen to some twig?

im complaining NOW because this has turned into insanity!!!!! what kind of person in their right mind would not complain after busting their goddam asses for years for no results? if i had put in the same effort in bodybuilding as i did in getting a PHD, i would have complete it by now and be working on 100k a year job.

[metal-head-]

Your not eating enough, thats what it comes down to. If your technique is 100% (which it isn't), your following a decent powerlifting program down to the T and your eating 5000+ cals a day it is impossible that your bench will stay the same. If your are serious about getting stronger, get trained by a strength coach, at least until you know what your doing wrong and then go from there.

In fact **** it, your not going to follow my advice anyway so there's no point. Keep winging like a little bitch and doing nothing about it, quit lifting and justify it to yourself by blaming it on your "genetics". Thats what you really want to do so just ****ing do it already.

[bttlefedponyboy]

act like i got them? ive busting my ass for 5 YEARS! ive done 5x5 multiple times every single time ive stalled on the same number even while gaining weight. ive done rippetoes, poliquin stuff, i follow these routine faithfully.

WHAT ELSE CAN I POSSIBLY DO? you think i would continue training after all these years without results if i didnt have balls? if i was a whiner? this has been my life long goal, i would do whatever it takes minus steroids to achieve my goal WHICH I HAVE DONE. why does everyone think its a god given right for every man to have bulging muscle just from working out? just because you had the genes to achieve your goals, doesnt mean everyone does. and baby slayer, im not saying you dont train hard but you would bench 3 times the amount i would bench even if you never lifted a single weight in your life and i trained my whole life. just like your brother is a monster, my brother cant even bench 60 pounds.

Dude stop whining your either not doing something right, eating training somethin, there are midgets that are very strong, do you think god blessed them with great genetics? No they sucked it up and trained and ate like animals to achieve their goals its pathetic for people to post this garbage for sympothy. I have also yet to understand why people post what can i do besides steroids, its out there but heres a run down anyways eat like an animal train like an animal sleep like a cat. Grrrr sorry about the rant but these people never read always ask and always down steroids which they know obviously nothin about

[DuracellBunny]

I know loads of cardiac and/or stroke patients that bench over 200lbs for **** sake.

200lbs isn't even about gaining any size for an average male, it can be done purely with neural gains.

You don't need a routine, you need a therapist.

[Oroborus]

OP, are you eating enough?

[Warm_Sun]

I know loads of cardiac and/or stroke patients that bench over 200lbs for **** sake.

200lbs isn't even about gaining any size for an average male, it can be done purely with neural gains.

You don't need a routine, you need a therapist.

**** you.

telling me i need a therapist just because i cant lift a certain weight.....

[ALLNECK]

Yeah dude stopping making excuses, and starting doing something about it. BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHINE WHINE WHINE. Everyone has there downfalls, but it makes us try harder.
My next thread: MY BABY CHEST WON'T GROW, I've done everything. ACKNOWLEDGE ME!!

[theflyingdutch]

they see me trollin'

[DuracellBunny]

**** you.

telling me i need a therapist just because i cant lift a certain weight.....

Well, the problem is a psychological one, not a physical one; so yes, I would recommend a therapist.

You're not looking for help with a routine, you are looking for somebody to provide you with reinforcement and tell you it's not your fault, that some people are just not meant to bench 200lbs, you gave it your best try and that's what counts and you are still mommy's special soldier.

Get your emo ass TFO of this section.

[Achilles-]

post ****ing vids like you said you would

[trap-bar]

quit benching for a month and do some heavy squats. i can guarantee it'll add 50 lbs on your bench

[Mustrainhard]

Classic trollage! OP, I congratulate you for such epic trolling, in fact you define trollage on the internet. I am a little dissappointed to see how easy it is to fool the PL section, though. I nominate OP for the Powerlifting Section Trolling Hall of Fame!