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    im considering a cutting diet, the macros will be as follows.

    Calories 2551

    Protein. 501.7g
    Carbohydrates. 100.6g
    Fat. 30.5g

    thats over 10 meals a day + 1 shake.

    just want to know what you think, its pretty much just lots of red meat and veggies.
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    Originally Posted by VanillaWhey View Post
    im considering a cutting diet, the macros will be as follows.

    Calories 2551

    Protein. 501.7g
    Carbohydrates. 100.6g
    Fat. 30.5g

    thats over 10 meals a day + 1 shake.

    just want to know what you think, its pretty much just lots of red meat and veggies.

    Obviously i am not Bob but that looks pretty extreme to me. You are 17 years old man, so unless you are prepping for a contest which requires such a temporary lifestyle and so many meals, I think a better balance would be beneficial in your life and allow you to cut just as quickly. Plus I don't know if 80% protein, day in and day out would be a sure fire win.
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    Originally Posted by VanillaWhey View Post
    im considering a cutting diet, the macros will be as follows.

    Calories 2551

    Protein. 501.7g
    Carbohydrates. 100.6g
    Fat. 30.5g

    thats over 10 meals a day + 1 shake.

    just want to know what you think, its pretty much just lots of red meat and veggies.

    damn....that sure is lots of protein right there...
    that would cost whole lotta MONEY.....lol
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    Originally Posted by VanillaWhey
    im considering a cutting diet, the macros will be as follows.

    Calories 2551

    Protein. 501.7g
    Carbohydrates. 100.6g
    Fat. 30.5g

    thats over 10 meals a day + 1 shake.

    just want to know what you think, its pretty much just lots of red meat and veggies.


    damn....that sure is lots of protein right there...
    that would cost whole lotta MONEY.....lol


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    Absolutely right. Way too much protein. Not only would cost you a lot of money, but uric acid buildup would kill your kidneys.
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    Rambod's 7's???

    Can anyone help me out with this new workout program. I've vaguely heard about it, and recently learned Jay Cutler is now switching to it. I understand it has something to do with 7 sets near the end of an exercise. Can anyone go into any detail about this for me...also, is this similair to German Volume Training?
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    Hey Bob, are you still in the Rochester area from time to time? I noticed you were on Rockell's website, and I've been meaning to check that place out!
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    Originally Posted by jmill128 View Post
    Can anyone help me out with this new workout program. I've vaguely heard about it, and recently learned Jay Cutler is now switching to it. I understand it has something to do with 7 sets near the end of an exercise. Can anyone go into any detail about this for me...also, is this similair to German Volume Training?
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    Go to www.fst-7.com and you will find all the info about the training principle.
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    Originally Posted by Eric-B View Post
    Hey Bob, are you still in the Rochester area from time to time? I noticed you were on Rockell's website, and I've been meaning to check that place out!
    I'm in Rochester every year for the Rochester BB championships

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    Originally Posted by jmill128 View Post
    Can anyone help me out with this new workout program. I've vaguely heard about it, and recently learned Jay Cutler is now switching to it. I understand it has something to do with 7 sets near the end of an exercise. Can anyone go into any detail about this for me...also, is this similair to German Volume Training?
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    Too many programs not enough training these days.
    My favorite program is JFT.

    BOB maybe we should start calling it JFT-5? the five is for number of days in the gym.
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    What are some of your personal favorite exercises for shoulders that helped you get wide..Mine are very stubbern and it seems like whatever I do i just cant wide enough and whenever i do manage to get decent size,it just dissappears when im dieting down for contest..anything to help them??..thanks
    Yeah mine to. Standing Machine Shoulder press and Standing Military Press with wide grip and just force every rep does wonders for me.
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    Bob what is your reason for not choosing a slow digested protein (casein) at pre bedtime. can you please state the reason?

    Also ive got some flaxseed oil tabs, how often should i take. 1x with every meal?
    or 2x daily?
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    Originally Posted by Johnbodybuilder View Post
    Bob what is your reason for not choosing a slow digested protein (casein) at pre bedtime. can you please state the reason?

    Also ive got some flaxseed oil tabs, how often should i take. 1x with every meal?
    or 2x daily?
    There is no real good reason to choose a casein type protein, and definately not advisable to those who are lactose intolerent....

    Any kind of protein is fine, and actual food is suggested...use your supps during the day, when you have a tough time getting meals in.
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    dietary protein rocks

    big bob chick, thanks for the dead on honesty re supp protein. too many companies pushing too many unregulated and un-needed products. get what you need from real foods and real veggies, not pills. rasta.
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    big bob chick, thanks for the dead on honesty re supp protein. too many companies pushing too many unregulated and un-needed products. get what you need from real foods and real veggies, not pills. rasta.
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    Bob,
    Due to current scheduling, I only get the chance to lift at 5AM. What would you do as a pre-workout meal? Would you recommend lifting after a meal a half-hour later or would taking a NO drink like Vapor on an empty stomach be OK?
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    Bob,

    I have been using this as my post workout shake the past three months...
    40-50g whey + 1 cup mangos + Water

    I'm considering switching the water out for milk and maybe the mangos out or bananas.

    Is there any reason using milk for a post workout shake would be bad for my progress?
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    Originally Posted by VanillaWhey View Post
    im considering a cutting diet, the macros will be as follows.

    Calories 2551

    Protein. 501.7g
    Carbohydrates. 100.6g
    Fat. 30.5g

    thats over 10 meals a day + 1 shake.

    just want to know what you think, its pretty much just lots of red meat and veggies.
    Hmm, I like those numbers, but they seem hard to get. What exactly are you eating? It must be all chicken or fish.
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    Originally Posted by Cyze View Post
    Bob,

    I have been using this as my post workout shake the past three months...
    40-50g whey + 1 cup mangos + Water

    I'm considering switching the water out for milk and maybe the mangos out or bananas.

    Is there any reason using milk for a post workout shake would be bad for my progress?

    I would switch out the water or milk for egg whites...I'm not a big milk fan, but if your going to mix a shake...egg whites are a better source of protein.

    Theyre available right here on BB.com


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    Hi bob, im currently in a cutting phase and trying to hold onto as much muscle as i can, i guess you could say im moderate to low carbs, i have carbs for breakfast and after workout in the evening, do you think i should have small amounts of carbs in every meal? and i was thinking of taking a protein shake midworkout as sometimes they can be lengthy what are your thoughts?..
    if you could give me some tips of holding as much muscle as i can during my cut that would be awesome.. much respect. - Jim

    Also, ive been asking alot of my friends.. do you think i should cut down to a very low bf and sacrifice size and try and work on putting lean muscle, or get down to a decent bf and still hold alot of my size and try and get my diet cleaner and try and lean out while trying to put on some lean muscle tissue?, does that make sense?, thanks alot.. kinda stuck in a rut.
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    Originally Posted by buffgrk View Post
    Hi bob, im currently in a cutting phase and trying to hold onto as much muscle as i can, i guess you could say im moderate to low carbs, i have carbs for breakfast and after workout in the evening, do you think i should have small amounts of carbs in every meal? and i was thinking of taking a protein shake midworkout as sometimes they can be lengthy what are your thoughts?..
    if you could give me some tips of holding as much muscle as i can during my cut that would be awesome.. much respect. - Jim

    Also, ive been asking alot of my friends.. do you think i should cut down to a very low bf and sacrifice size and try and work on putting lean muscle, or get down to a decent bf and still hold alot of my size and try and get my diet cleaner and try and lean out while trying to put on some lean muscle tissue?, does that make sense?, thanks alot.. kinda stuck in a rut.


    First and formost...make sure youre doing SLOW cardio....best way to insure holding onto all your hard-earned muscle.

    Second, cut your workout time down, long lengthly workouts are counter-productive...may want to take a look at making the workouts more efficient...

    Third...quit asking your friends for advices...too many cooks in the kitchen and theyll all have a different opinion, making it MORE confusing....

    Depending on how far out of the show you are, you wont be building any muscle from the 12 week point...your focus at that point is HOLDING onto the muscle....building is for off season.

    I suggest reading through this thread, as its loaded with precontest dieting, training, and cardio info people have already asked....any additional questions...feel free to ask

    good luck bro!
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    my bench routine sucks. All I am doing at the moment is bench press 5x8 and close grip bech bench 5x8. I do this once a week. I have no access to cables. Is this enough for chest? thanks
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    Originally Posted by crom_ View Post
    my bench routine sucks. All I am doing at the moment is bench press 5x8 and close grip bech bench 5x8. I do this once a week. I have no access to cables. Is this enough for chest? thanks

    If ALL you have is a bench and a set of DB's...you could get a complete chest workout.

    You could do:

    Flat bench

    Flat flys

    Incline BB/ DB (even if the bench doesnt incline...you could set it on top a block of wood, or some plates)

    Decline BB/ DB (by reversing your position)
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    Bob, is your pre-contest training the same as your off season training? Only diet and slow cardio is the change?
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    Question on carb cycling

    Thanks for all the great advices Bob. When watching the war for the worlds videos, you mention that you had low carb and high carb days. In the last 4 weeks of your dieting, what were your carb levels on low and high days in ratio to your weight?
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    Bob, what does your current Back routine look like?
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