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    Massie says TikTok ban is Trojan horse











    Looks like we might need to be calling some congressmen....
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    Nancy Pelosi at 5:00


    This alone lets you know the legislation is a bad idea
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    Originally Posted by TheGeneralL33 View Post
    Not today Wang. We're shutting down your gay app.

    If you want to ban TikTok have at it.

    Don't word the legislation so you can take over Twitter, and Truth social, content
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    It would be great if (for once) politicians made a law just to help Americans. No other purpose, just that.

    I don't think it happens anymore.
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    If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.

    Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.

    I don't use any of those apps.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.

    Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.

    I don't use any of those apps.
    I don't think that's on the table. They're discussing apps/websites where the data is hosted with an adversary.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I don't think that's on the table. They're discussing apps/websites where the data is hosted with an adversary.
    A foreign adversary?
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    Can anyone explain why we want the government to have this kind of power???
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Can anyone explain why we want the government to have this kind of power???
    Tbh I don't fully understand the bill

    If massie hates it - that worries me - add elon in addition
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    A foreign adversary?
    Lol

    Actually, I haven't read it but I heard on the radio discussion that it was links to a foreign adversaries government...
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Lol

    Actually, I haven't read it but I heard on the radio discussion that it was links to a foreign adversaries government...
    I've read it one full-time and skimmed it over a second trying to understand it.

    It's confusing and seems to be very open-ended
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Tbh I don't fully understand the bill

    If massie hates it - that worries me - add elon in addition
    ....
    I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population...
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    I've read it one full-time and skimmed it over a second trying to understand it.

    It's confusing and seems to be very open-ended
    That's what I mean, this isn't in our best interest, and the last thing we need to do, is give them this kind of power.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population...
    It looks like you could take someone who uses offshore web hosting and wreck them
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    It looks like you could take someone who uses offshore web hosting and wreck them
    If the servers were in say China, Iran, NK, Cuba, Syria, Russia...then yeah. The point would be to make them sell to a neutral party or an ally.

    I'm surprised they have the foresight to consider how an enemy could perfect social engineering campaigns through collecting this data and using ai/ml.

    Idk maybe they don't and just hate their teenagers looking at tik tok.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    If the servers were in say China, Iran, NK, Cuba, Syria, Russia...then yeah. The point would be to make them sell to a neutral party or an ally.

    I'm surprised they have the foresight to consider how an enemy could perfect social engineering campaigns through collecting this data and using ai/ml.

    Idk maybe they don't and just hate their teenagers looking at tik tok.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.

    Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.

    I don't use any of those apps.

    Would you be OK with President Trump having the power of this bill next year?- that can be used on just websites?
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Who decides who the adversary is?
    I think it's written in the bill so that would be Congress and the President.

    Link to bill...saw on AP it said they create a process for deciding, so idk how it works but will read later.
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    They should shut it down because it’s full of whores, but they are shutting it down because kids are asking questions about Jews and they are not being banned or moderated for it
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population...
    The US government is just furious that you can discover the truth about this nation's past and find natural herbs and plants remedies for healing
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I think it's written in the bill so that would be Congress and the President.

    Link to bill...saw on AP it said they create a process for deciding, so idk how it works but will read later.
    https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.ne...a8572d67bb.pdf

    Act; and
    (B) in the case of an application that satisfies the definition of a foreign adversary controlled application pursuant to subsection (g)(3)(B), beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of the relevant determination of the President under such subsection.
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    (1) CONTROLLED BY A FOREIGN ADVERSARY.-
    The term "controlled by a foreign adversary" means, with respect to a covered company or other entity, that such company or other entity is—
    (A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country;
    (B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or

    (C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B).

    (2) COVERED COMPANY.—
    (A) IN GENERAL.-The term "covered company" means an entity that operates, directly or indirectly (including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate), a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that—
    (1) permits a user to create an ac-
    count or profile to generate, share, and view text, images, videos, real-time commu-nications, or similar content;
    (ii) has more than 1,000,000 monthly active users with respect to at least 2 of the 3 months preceding the date on which a relevant determination of the President
    is made pursuant to paragraph (3) (B);
    (in) enables 1 or more users to gen-
    erate or distribute content that can be
    viewed by other users of the website, desktop application, mobile application,
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    (ii) that is determined by the President to present a significant threat to the
    national security of the United States following the issuance of—
    (I) a public notice proposing such determination; and
    (Il) a public report to Congress, submitted not less than 30 days before such determination, describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what as-
    sets would need to be divested to exe-
    cute a qualified divestiture.
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    (5) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE.-The term
    "internet hosting service" means a service through which storage and computing resources are provided to an individual or organization for the accommodation and maintenance of 1 or more websites or on-
    line services, and which may include file hosting, domain name server hosting; cloud hosting, and virtual private server hosting:
    (6) QUALIFIED DIVESTITURE.-The term
    "qualified divestiture" means a divestiture or similar transaction that—
    (A) the President determines, through an interagency process, would result in the relevant foreign adversary controlled application no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary; and
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    (B) the President determines, through an interagency process, precludes the establishment or maintenance of any operational relationship between the United States operations of the relevant foreign adversary controlled application and any formerly affiliated entities that are controlled by a foreign adversary, in-


    Oh yes - exclusive jurisdiction

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    19 Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit shall
    20 have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to this Act
    21 or any action, finding, or determination under this Act.
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    Originally Posted by TheGeneralL33 View Post
    Not today Wang. We're shutting down your gay app.
    Who do you think Trump will decide who the adversary is?
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.

    Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.

    I don't use any of those apps.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Who decides who the adversary is?
    I wanna that China/Russia/iran and N Korea would be considered that.

    The thing is, when the left wants to ban/censor something....its meant to hurt you/me.

    That said, you should read Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer, it lays out how the CCP uses TikTok as a trojan horse to destroy America form the inside out...
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    I wanna that China/Russia/iran and N Korea would be considered that.

    The thing is, when the left wants to ban/censor something....its meant to hurt you/me.

    That said, you should read Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer, it lays out how the CCP uses TikTok as a trojan horse to destroy America form the inside out...
    Yes China is destroying America with TikTok.

    Its not the US Government flooding the country with immigrants, refusing to prosecute criminals, never investing in infrastructure or printing trillions to fund foreign wars for bankers and the MIC. Its not that the intelligence agencies are trying to weaponize the internet against its own citizens, or manipulate what information we have access to.

    Its whores dancing on TikTok and kids talking about Hitler.
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