I can bent-over single arm dumbbell row 100 pounds. I've done those and pull-ups religiously for many years. T-Bar has always been something that I've done here and there but never really took seriously, but trying to do more now.
My T-Bar/Incline Lever Row using both arms is about the same as my single arm DB row. Shouldn't my T-Bar be much higher?
Is this because:
1) T-Bar/Incline row focuses different muscles than a bent-over DB row?
2) When rowing with one arm, are both sides of my back assisting with the lift, therefore reducing what I actually lift if rowing with both arms simultaneously?
3) Does the bar itself add much weight? I can't see it weighing more than 45 pounds on it's own, and from what I understand lifting one end of a lever is a small fraction of it's total weight. The other end is in a joint about 8" off the floor.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
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02-21-2018, 10:58 PM #1
T Bar row weak compared to DB row?
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02-21-2018, 11:10 PM #2
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02-22-2018, 01:41 AM #3
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There is no rule that says you should be stronger in one exercise over anther. My seated dumbbell shoulder press is heavier than I can manage of flat dumbbell chest press. And my Romanian dead lift is heavier than my conventional dead lift.
Weight is not important. Performing the move correctly and safely is all that matters.Love to train.... hate gyms!
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02-22-2018, 01:46 AM #4
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All rows are not equal
I can DB row way more than i can barbell bent row and i can BB bent row more than i can strict wide grip seal row.
Personally i like to go over heavy on DB rows and even allow a little body english in my form
Then follow this up with another lighter super strict rowretired from powerlifting, retired from the misc
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02-22-2018, 11:40 AM #5
Both different.
T bar rows have a shorter range of motion that you can move the bar.
You can do T bar rows strict pulling and contracting or like Arnold in the movie Pumping Iron a little looser and using the low back also creating some momentum on the pull.
Ive found for me the T bars hit the low lats pretty well.
I would as mentioned though if you want a stricter back building movement go with the chest supported row if you have access to one.
The one arm DB row allows more freedom with the working arm so you can target specific areas of the back better and get a good lat /back stretch at the bottom of each rep.
Example if you pull more to the chest and have your elbow out you'll target more upper back and rear delt.
If you keep the elbow more to the side and pull back towards the waist you hit the lats better.
Both are beneficial to back development but are a bit different with leverages and range of motion.
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02-23-2018, 09:49 AM #6
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02-23-2018, 11:43 AM #7
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02-23-2018, 11:50 AM #8
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02-23-2018, 04:45 PM #9
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02-25-2018, 06:31 PM #10
Makes sense. By default your palms will be facing you with a DB row and lends itself to pulling closer to the body unless you make a point of not doing so, whereas with the T-Bar you have the option of having your palms facing down and a wider grip. I think that's why I felt the burn in my rear delts in the days after doing T-Bar Rows with a wider BB-style grip.
Cause of that I think I'm liking T-Bar rows now! Will alternate T-Bar and DB rows now. Thanks all.
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02-25-2018, 07:57 PM #11
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