2017 Orders Part 3: Squat depth, Purple guavas, and recalled protein cookies

[gbullock32]

Sail down the river and Best BCAA Watermelon Ice is only ~$12 after coupon for 40 serving; good deal for some tasty flavoring.

[Rob1882]

I cracked open XF French Vanilla the other day. It's quite good. I'll be making a lot of smoothies with it.

Also, mug cakes w/ XF Triple Chocolate >> any other protein powder I've tried.

Both of those flavors are amazing I like the richness to that triple chocolate so very good and agree on the french vanilla both of those are under represented on these forums for sure.

[kissdadookie]

For products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

That makes no sense to why you posted:

"Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

What was the reasoning behind posting that? The reasoning you proposed makes no sense together with what you posted. What does "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" have anything to do with anything changing because nobody said those products and companies changed. What was being pointed out is that who knows what's in and not in products and what companies are and are not doing. The discussion wasn't about companies and products for some reason changing out of the blue.

[Farley1324]

That makes no sense to why you posted:

"Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

What was the reasoning behind posting that? The reasoning you proposed makes no sense together with what you posted. What does "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" have anything to do with anything changing because nobody said those products and companies changed. What was being pointed out is that who knows what's in and not in products and what companies are and are not doing. The discussion wasn't about companies and products for some reason changing out of the blue.

Do you want to have a conversation or not?

For products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

I'm not asking a product being changed, come on now. Do you even context?

On the topic of your whole -lol at taking supplements nothing is what it claims- argument, for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

You're acting like we should all be mad or think differently or do differently with other products from other companies, but why? How has the situation for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, changed?

[VO2Maxima]

Not food itself, but Mrs. Dash is sodium free and can add a lot of flavor to your foods.

Oh I should probably look for them. I know some of the bodybuilders live off of those. Thanks.

I wish I had some ideas but on that end I just don't Lol I agree its insanely difficult to make food with ultra low sodium ever taste good

Remembering this book by a food journalist think it might been "Fat, Sugar, Salt" by Michael Moss where he recounts going to this food lab maybe Kraft or Nabisco? Can't remember and they have samples of various crackers included in the lineup was a 0 or ultra low sodium cracker which he tried and said it was one of the worst things he ever ate.

Would prob go with whatever you like low as possible in sodium and simply use citrus zest and maybe small amount of citrus juice to flavor it like grapefruit, limes, lemons or pomelo's even oranges. Fresh herbs.




A lot of foods contain on their own a decent amount of sodium tho and most commercial meat even uses sodium brines or sodium laced injections of water which plump the meat up making it weigh more but also taste better not to mention natually found sodium.

It's pretty difficult to eat a truly low sodium diet

Right, which is why it's trace sodium, not zero sodium...don't even know if ultra low sodium is possible with meat you buy at a store. Like I said, it's only a day, but figured I would ask. Basically have to drop 12lbs in a week for a weigh-in...first couple days are easy, as it's just load water, load sodium, cut carbs. Towards the end it starts to get gross, but it's only like two days so you deal with it, but if there's a way to make the low sodium day taste better, then why not?

[kissdadookie]

Do you want to have a conversation or not?

For products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

I am having a conversation, you're not answering a straight forward question. I clearly stated that you posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" has a implied meaning. I stated what that implied meaning was and openly invited you to explain what the real meaning was if what I thought of the implied meaning was inaccurate. You're now circling around and not answering a very simple question and instead earlier on had been saying that I was misrepresenting what you posted. So if you believe that I misrepresented it and mistook what "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??," explain why you posted that then.

[Farley1324]

I am having a conversation, you're not answering a straight forward question. I clearly stated that you posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" has a implied meaning. I stated what that implied meaning was and openly invited you to explain what the real meaning was if what I thought of the implied meaning was inaccurate. You're now circling around and not answering a very simple question and instead earlier on had been saying that I was misrepresenting what you posted. So if you believe that I misrepresented it and mistook what "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??," explain why you posted that then.

Do you want to have a conversation or not?

For products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

I'm not asking a product being changed, come on now. Do you even context?

On the topic of your whole -lol at taking supplements nothing is what it claims- argument, for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

You're acting like we should all be mad or think differently or do differently with other products from other companies, but why? How has the situation for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, changed?

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Oh for the love of god. The answer is that for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, nothing changed

[kissdadookie]

Do you want to have a conversation or not?

For products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

I'm not asking a product being changed, come on now. Do you even context?

On the topic of your whole -lol at taking supplements nothing is what it claims- argument, for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, what changed?

You're acting like we should all be mad or think differently or do differently with other products from other companies, but why? How has the situation for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, changed?

Again, you claimed that I misrepresented you when I said that you posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" implies something and I explained what was being implied. If I misrepresented you, then please feel free to tell us what you had meant by posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

How come you are doing everything you can think of to not tell us what you had meant when you posted "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

I'm not acting like anything, I brought up discussion points. If you wish to get defensive over that as if I was directing something towards you, I can't help yah with that buddy.

[Farley1324]

Again, you claimed that I misrepresented you when I said that you posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" implies something and I explained what was being implied.

Again, have you noticed the pattern where you go on these rants where you tell other people what you think they implied? You should probably just go by what people actually say, explicitly. Because track record.

If I misrepresented you, then please feel free to tell us what you had meant by posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

How come you are doing everything you can think of to not tell us what you had meant when you posted "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??"

I'm not acting like anything, I brought up discussion points. If you wish to get defensive over that as if I was directing something towards you, I can't help yah with that buddy.

The answer is that for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, nothing changed


So with nothing changing for the products we are using, why are we lol'ing at each other because of this, exactly?

[gbullock32]

I just wanna drink some tasty pixie dust and lift heavy objects... need we complicate things further?

[Jammer02xd]

Tayd: My son seems to love the hat you sent

[kissdadookie]

Again, have you noticed the pattern where you go on these rants where you tell other people what you think they implied? You should probably just go by what people actually say, explicitly. Because track record.



The answer is that for products that were not part of that test, from companies not part of that test, nothing changed

Nobody, at least I, did not say or claim that ANYTHING has changed for those companies that were not part of the test. I didn't even bring up or hint that anything changed. What I DID point out was how can one trust that what they are using is what is on the label and nothing more or less? That's all I pointed out for discussion. How you took that and twisted it into as if I had insinuated that companies and products that were not tested changed or something is beyond me.

What part of this is elusive to you?

[Farley1324]

Nobody, at least I, did not say or claim that ANYTHING has changed for those companies that were not part of the test. I didn't even bring up or hint that anything changed. What I DID point out was how can one trust that what they are using is what is on the label and nothing more or less? That's all I pointed out for discussion. How you took that and twisted it into as if I had insinuated that companies and products that were not tested changed or something is beyond me.

What part of this is elusive to you?

So, you completely trusted every supplement company and every product until this test.

Yikes.


Again, I never said or implied that any products were changed, I have even explicitly told you that I did not imply or state that any products were changed. Are you even reading the replies or just running your script?

[TheFugitive]

Sail down the river and Best BCAA Watermelon Ice is only ~$12 after coupon for 40 serving; good deal for some tasty flavoring.

That's a steal and it's ChromaDex verified Drink with confidence

[crpav]

Tayd: My son seems to love the hat you sent

Nice! Mine is still in the packaging. Not a hat guy. This weekend my in laws visited and mother in law made some lemon cucumber water drink and used on my my MANY shakers. So happened it was a Dymatize one. I asked her where she found that because I forgot I even had it from them from a past hook up.

[burntreality]

Any possible way we could bring the useless arguments out of this thread? It's just two pages now of arguing and we know is not going to get anywhere.

[customshopkv1]

Cracked this tub of Axis Lab's French Toast open this past weekend. Really glad I picked up this tub to try out. Hints of vanilla, cinnamon, and a faint buttery flavor really made this protein good imo. My only regret is that I didn't pick up the smores flavor to try out.

Yeah, that’s the goods right there!!

Tried the S'mores flavor last week and really enjoyed it. French Toast sounds amazing.

<3

The French Toast is pretty good very spiced custard like. The S'Mores was decent I had tried that a while ago. French Toast massively over shadows the S'Mores IMO

<3

French toast, IMO, is the best flavor in the line. S'mores is pretty good, but it's so difficult to capture the S'mores flavor in any sort of food. Appreciate the support bros.


Hit Bench today after a few days off due to a lower back issue. 1 scoop Dymatize PWO + 2 scoops hemodraulix and 4 hours later the pump is still there.

Nice stack!!

[Jammer02xd]

Any possible way we could bring the useless arguments out of this thread? It's just two pages now of arguing and we know is not going to get anywhere.

This happens pretty much anytime KDD comes into a thread.

[Farley1324]

Any possible way we could bring the useless arguments out of this thread? It's just two pages now of arguing and we know is not going to get anywhere.

Yeah...yeah. Onward and upward.

Still tempted to open that UP 2.0 shipment even though I'm putting 99.x% of my stuff into boxes right now lol

[gbullock32]

That's a steal and it's ChromaDex verified Drink with confidence

Heh, ChromaDex.

I love the flavor though, like Watermelon Jolly Rancher, wish I could grab more than 1 tub at this price, well worth it for the taste.

[kissdadookie]

So, you completely trusted every supplement company and every product until this test.

Yikes.


Again, I never said or implied that any products were changed, I have even explicitly told you that I did not imply or state that any products were changed. Are you even reading the replies or just running your script?

I never claimed that you implied there was any change. All I did was pointed out that you posting "Plus, who in this thread uses any of the products that failed the testing??" implied that you thought if it did not get tested and failed a test, it's probably ok and to be trusted.

As for me having trusted every product I've used, nope. When Intra-MD showed up as being messed with, I was one of the first if not the first to post on here about it. When all those bottles I bought of Anogenin I used and felt nothing from it, even when I was a rep, I consistently told people to skip that product. When amentoflavone was a bust and I had used much of it from various products, I spoke up about it. I've said it many a times before, who knows what companies are doing in this industry since they are all pretty questionable. I quoted Tim Patterson who spoke on this subject and I did so many a times since he was one of the high profile industry individuals that openly called it as it is in regards to supplement companies being essentially all ran by questionable individuals.

[LoudyRowdy]

[dougefresh93]

Not food itself, but Mrs. Dash is sodium free and can add a lot of flavor to your foods.

they have some good flavors out too...

and i'm a huge fan of.

[TheFugitive]

Bottles will ship this week to everyone I promised them to

[Misctake7]

Still tempted to open that UP 2.0 shipment even though I'm putting 99.x% of my stuff into boxes right now lol

The wait will be well worth it

[BogusForLife]

If something gets tested and fails, we know not to trust that product. If something neither fails or passes because it never got tested, this exonerates the product or at bare minimum you just blindly have faith in it? That doesn't make any logical sense, at all, especially when you consider that the entire industry is questionable to begin with (as an objective fact, it being good or bad for the consumer, I have no real opinion on it).

Didn't you go in circles with Uncle Ben who was saying just because an ingredient has not been tested does not mean it is not effective in increasing performance by vehemently defending the need for testing with appropriate methodology to come to any conclusions about said ingredient?

Now you're inferring something isn't dosed as indicated despite it not being tested in any way, shape or form and used a tragic event involving a bakery as support for your inference?

[BenBlue]

I don't think anyone who regularly posts ITT actually trusts the industry or the companies in it, especially the organizations selling novel stim pwo's. Not sure why every time something like this is exposed people get on their high horse and start pointing fingers at users. We all use at our own calculated risks, and no one blindly trusts the companies or products. These "discussions" are getting old, especially when people who buy product just like the rest of us start down talking posters.

It would be great if we could trust the industry, but we can't. We all know that there is some risk involved in buying these novel stim products. Hell, it doesn't stop there though. I've had products that hit way harder than the profile would suggest. I'm sure it's not just the DMAA/DMHA companies that are spiking product. This industry is in desperate need of regulation, but we have no control over it. So users use at their own risk.

[customshopkv1]

So I have gone 3 workouts without any stim or pump formula, good pump and great workouts. Kind of nice!!

[Rob1882]

Centurion Labz God of RAGE Key Lime ( 13g ) in that heaping scoop

So I tried it this a first for me as the powder it was really strong Lol kind of an immediate sour-tart citrus lime explosion didn't much enjoy, the bright side however it was over so fast that not to terrible so mixed feelings. Def not like a pixie stick as it was much stronger in flavor and think some of the ingredients had a harsh taste being so concentrated.

Don't think I really ever wanna try that again :X

[allieninja]

spicy thread is getting spicy