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    The odds of you being shot if you had a gun would increase exponentially

    brb have a gun on you
    brb perp has the upper hand
    brb you're a newb with guns
    brb you try and take it out
    brb perp sees you do this
    brb he shoots you

    Good luck, OP. If someone has the upper hand and has a gun to your head, don't you think reaching into your little holster would not help matters? Not like you can predict getting mugged too. These vermin seem to come out of nowhere.

    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    No I saw two dudes coming up down the road. They looked like trouble. They did a double take, then ran up on me fast. I knew something bad was coming. They them put bandanas on their face as they were running up. If I had a gun, I could have drawn on them or at least been ready to draw. If my draw was fast enough this wouldn't have happened. They didn't pull their weapon till the last second.
    What if these guys run towards you with bandanas on and are unarmed or have no physically violent intentions but want to get in your face and argue with you about something? Do you think anyone would take your word for it?
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    Why so you can miss and shoot some innocent person or shoot yourself.

    Take some safety classes first and learn
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    Originally Posted by Bothang View Post
    One thing i don't get when people say, "i need to start carrying a gun to help me if i get robbed by an armed mugger"...The guns not going to be in your hand and if an armed mugger pull a gun on you approches you out of nowhere (like they tend to do) you are not going to be able to de-holster and load your gun before they shoot you.

    Even if they have no intention of shooting you, your sudden movements might make them panic and shoot you.

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    So do you have a better idea?
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    Originally Posted by Andy517 View Post
    Dress up like a ISIS fighter. No one will rob you now
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    Originally Posted by ILLUSIONZ View Post
    He was talking about a particular kind of crime and yes NO ONE gets robbed 3 times in broad daylight for no reason at all in UK. Such a thing hasn't happened here for hundreds of years.
    No the other two robbings were at night
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    Originally Posted by ldurham20 View Post
    Unless you train tirelessly, this is very true. Unless you get the element of surprise on them, you're not going to be able to draw.
    IF you train, and get very, very good - It's not hard at all (time wise) to draw and fire from the hip before they know what hit them.
    Who can teach me this?
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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    Who can teach me this?
    Utilize the internet.
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    Originally Posted by ChimiChizer View Post
    Buy a Beretta 92FS
    Yeah I've heard good things about those. That's a 9mm right?
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    Originally Posted by Striation View Post
    Not having a gun saved your life OP. You would have fumbled that bish and got wasted.
    So what do I need to do? Take f*cking krav maga?
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    If someone with a gun drawn has the drop on you then you can't draw your weapon in time to do anything. Considering you haven't shot a gun before you'd just get yourself killed anyway. Pay attention to your surroundings and stop living in a chitty neighborhood.

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    Originally Posted by ldurham20 View Post
    Like go to any reputable gun range that rents out various weapons for range time, find someone to work with you, get comfortable with them, and don't even consider buying or carrying until you know what the phuk you're doing with it.
    We have a place like that here called the gun gallery. It let's you try out as many guns as you want for a set price. But I don't see how that's gonna help if I don't even know how to fire the thing.
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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    So what do I need to do? Take f*cking krav maga?
    Never leave the house maybe?

    Yeah, I'd get a FN Five-seven mano.

    From: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/fns...-self-defense/
    Which pistol—ideal for concealed carry, home defense, or just shooting enjoyment—has low recoil, features a 20-round magazine capacity, and is lightweight, effective, totally reliable, and nearly impervious to elements? Answer: the FNH-USA’s 5.7x28mm Five-seveN—a pistol that hasn’t gotten all the recognition it deserves.
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    Originally Posted by berserkbladex View Post
    Check your state laws about CCW. I do agree with others in the thread that not having a gun probably saved your life. No liberal. Get a G26 or similar, which is reliable, concealable, and easy to practice with. Home defense, shotgun only.
    Thanks this was w helpful post
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    Get a gun and carry it.

    Protect yourself, (and your family.)

    Don't let the antis try and talk you out of it. (All excuses because THEY don't want to)

    You can take ALL the training classes you want.

    Different situations require different uses of firearms.

    There's no denying it's better to be armed than be weak and vulnerable with absolutely nothing to protect/defend yourself.

    BRAVE men died fighting for those rights with their own blood.

    You've made the right choice.

    Just invest in training, get your CCW, and spend time practicing at the range...

    Most importantly learn the rules of firearm safety.
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    Training, training, and more training. Invest all your time and money into training with whatever firearm you decide to purchase. Make an informed decision when purchasing a firearm. Don't buy any gun some fuk in misc tells you that you must buy. Research and make an informed decision and then train with it over and over. If you don't know how to use it, the weapon does you no good.
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    Originally Posted by lightsarefallin View Post
    The odds of you being shot if you had a gun would increase exponentially

    brb have a gun on you
    brb perp has the upper hand
    brb you're a newb with guns
    brb you try and take it out
    brb perp sees you do this
    brb he shoots you

    Good luck, OP. If someone has the upper hand and has a gun to your head, don't you think reaching into your little holster would not help matters? Not like you can predict getting mugged too. These vermin seem to come out of nowhere.



    What if these guys run towards you with bandanas on and are unarmed or have no physically violent intentions but want to get in your face and argue with you about something? Do you think anyone would take your word for it?
    Yeah I know. And from my understanding, if you pull a gun on someone like that and they were unarmed, that's brandishing a firearm and that's a felony. So how to solve this problem.
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    Originally Posted by yochrisss View Post
    Why so you can miss and shoot some innocent person or shoot yourself.

    Take some safety classes first and learn
    Thas what I plan to do if I actually decide to do this.
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    Originally Posted by RockyIV View Post
    If someone with a gun drawn has the drop on you then you can't draw your weapon in time to do anything. Considering you haven't shot a gun before you'd just get yourself killed anyway. Pay attention to your surroundings and stop living in a chitty neighborhood.

    I live in Memphis and never been robbed crew.
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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    Yeah I know. And from my understanding, if you pull a gun on someone like that and they were unarmed, that's brandishing a firearm and that's a felony. So how to solve this problem.
    1. "BACK OFF", loud vocal warnings. Move away/backwards, avoid the situation. Give clear warnings.

    2. Only pull out your firearm when you ready to fire. (When you are in fear for your life)

    People generally don't continue approaching you after you yell/scream at them to stop.

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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    I have also almost been robbed 3 other times on seperate occasions

    I have realized that I need a gun for protection.
    So after being robbed four times you've finally realized that you need a gun for protection? Da fuq? This better be roll bread.
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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    I was robbed at gunpoint on Tuesday in broad daylight. They even put me on the floor and put a gun up to my head execution style. For some reason they didn't pull the trigger. I have also almost been robbed 3 other times on seperate occasions
    but was able to escape the other times. Luckily I am unscathed.

    I have realized that I need a gun for protection. I've never shot a gun in my life though. Price isnt an issue for the most part. I need something for personal protection that I can reload load fast, isn't hard to use, won't jam, can be drawn fast, and has a decent amount of bullets in the chamber
    So 4 times total now? WTF do you live? Go take a class and get formal training with firearms. Go to a place that rents guns and try some out. Spend time on gun forums where people know their chit, like M4Carbine. Practice regularly. If you're not willing to do that, rethink your idea

    Don't just buy something you were told about on the misc and start carrying it. Having a gun does not magically make bad guys go away.
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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    Yeah I know. And from my understanding, if you pull a gun on someone like that and they were unarmed, that's brandishing a firearm and that's a felony. So how to solve this problem.
    Good luck, OP. Make sure to keep a level head and make conscious and non-rash decisions that could potentially ruin your life. I've been mugged before and the feeling is terrible. It's this feeling of ultimate violation that injures your ego and pride. You're probably ruminating about the situation over and over, thinking about what you could have done differently to protect yourself. In the end, you have to remember that there really isn't anything more you could have done. Two pieces of schit had you both 1) outnumbered, 2) had weapons. You made the smart and conscientious choice not to fight back. I know it's difficult to swallow, and you want to punish or teach these as$holes a lesson, but your life is far more valuable.

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    Originally Posted by Dozzyy View Post
    Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted.


    How the US compares: The number of gun murders per capita in the US in 2012 - the most recent year for comparable statistics - was nearly 30 times that in the UK, at 2.9 per 100,000 compared with just 0.1.
    Of all the murders in the US in 2012, 60% were by firearm compared with 31% in Canada, 18.2% in Australia, and just 10% in the UK.

    not eliminated but sure as hell controlled, good luck with your staying alive goals of 2016 and beyond

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    We have more violent crime than the USA you dumb brainwashed twat. Crime doesn't have to involve a gun for it to serious and/or deadly.
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    So what do I need to do? Take f*cking krav maga?
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    Originally Posted by lightsarefallin View Post
    The odds of you being shot if you had a gun would increase exponentially
    Facts vs perception son:

    "The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun."

    Avoiding the situation altogether by being aware of your surroundings at all times, not living in high crime areas, etc is best strategy, but your comments is BS and not born out by either the stats nor real world experience.

    Thousands of actual events vs theory people can look at the news generally ignores:

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    Originally Posted by Nate the Snake View Post
    I was robbed at gunpoint on Tuesday in broad daylight. They even put me on the floor and put a gun up to my head execution style. For some reason they didn't pull the trigger. I have also almost been robbed 3 other times on seperate occasions
    but was able to escape the other times. Luckily I am unscathed.

    I have realized that I need a gun for protection. I've never shot a gun in my life though. Price isnt an issue for the most part. I need something for personal protection that I can reload load fast, isn't hard to use, won't jam, can be drawn fast, and has a decent amount of bullets in the chamber
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    i love guns, and I always carry one on me.. but if you get thrown to the floor and a gun put to your head, what would of having a gun on you prevented? Sorry to hear what happened, but you need to pay more attention to your surroundings.
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