Hi All,
I have been taking Animal Flex for over six months. I am still experiencing recurring shoulder pain in my shoulders.
I know good tight form is critical to minimising shoulder injuries, but is there something I could take along with animal flex to help repair and keep my shoulders and joints healthy?
Perhaps Collagen or higher does of certain ingredients?
I am also taking high doses of Nordic Natural Ultimate Omega fish oils
Thanks
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03-20-2016, 05:25 AM #1
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03-20-2016, 06:19 AM #2
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Have you attacked the problem at the source? Checked form, made sure to warm up rotator cuff thoroughly before working out, had soft tissue work (such as A.R.T. or Graston) done on the problem area?
If you've already taken care of all that, cissus is an excellent ingredient for joint health. Look into something like PEScience GenoFlex or iForce Joint Help. GenoFlex, along with cissus, also adds ApresFlex (extremely pure boswellia extract...boswellia is a LOX inhibitor so acts as an anti-inflammatory and reduces pain) and passion fruit seed extract (stimulates collagen production). Early feedback on GenoFlex has people seeing improvement in as little as a week. Joint Help is cissus and Paractin, which like ApresFlex, will help with more immediate relief. Either of those are worth considering, once you take care of the root of the problem.Olympus Labs Representative
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03-20-2016, 12:48 PM #9
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Thank you for the insightful feedback!
I am willing to to try a.r.t. and/or Graston. I have seen a doc regarding both shoulders in the past. Here is what they said:
Right shoulder:
MRI indicated it was bicep tendon. The pain has come and gone in the past and comes from the front of the shoulder (anterior delt). I feel it most when pressing, seconded by doing pull ups.
Left shoulder:
MRI indicated ACT issues. I had a cortisone shot and it made a world of difference for over 6 months. Now the pain comes and goes but my right side is bothering me the most at the moment.
Any thoughts on wether Graston or ART is better for my issues?
I am going to try Genoflex
Thanks
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03-20-2016, 01:28 PM #10
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I have seen most of Alan Thrall's YouTube videos but missed this one entitled "Bench Bigger: fix your broken shoulders" as it was posted by Omarlsuf.
I tried testing my tightness as per the video (4min 10secs) by bending my arm 90 degrees, putting it behind my back and twisting my wrist. The left arm wasn't a problem but my right arm is so tight I can't even put it flat against my back!
Shocking!!!
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03-20-2016, 02:10 PM #11
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I definitely recommend seeking out some resources to address the problem rather than searching for supplements solely to mask the issue; during the year I spent working for a pretty committed powerlifting company, and also being a pretty committed powerlifter, I learned that addressing issues and doing "pre"-habilitation exercises to avoid common problems in the first place was much better than taking a joint supplement, putting on liniment, a million sleeves or cuffs, et cetera.
That being said, I really liked ParActin (from iForce Joint Help) when I had a commitment like a meet and was just beat down from training, and knew it probably wouldn't get better until after competition. PES's new Genoflex (did I get that right?) also looks solid, you can trust what they bring to the table. I believe Scivation also has a great product coming out that I was fortunate enough to beta test (it may already be out, I'm a bit behind due to my school schedule).NOV || Ohio Chapter || Be more, have less.
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I generally use a combination of both pin-and-stretch (which is what A.R.T. is based on, I can't *legally* call it A.R.T. since you have to recertify every year for several thousand dollars) along with instrument assisted soft tissue mobilization (Graston falls in this category), along with ischemic compression, in my office, depending on the area and what I think is most appropriate. A lot of times, I'll use all three on a given area, going after different muscles in that area with one or more technique, and I've had good results doing so. I can't really make that call without seeing you in person, but I will say that both techniques can be very effective for soft tissue dysfunction. If you find a chiropractor or physical therapist who specializes in sports injuries and soft tissue work, they can probably help you.
You can't get GenoFlex in the UK? Let me look into that for you...Olympus Labs Representative
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I'd consult with a doctor if I were you. As far as supplements, there is no direct answer. Maybe your'e vitamin d or calcium deficient.
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04-21-2016, 01:34 AM #23
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Thank you all for the advice!!!
I ordered Joint Help and all I can say is WOW!!! Great Advice!!! Within a week my shoulders were feeling better and I have been taking animal flex for over 6 months! I am now 2/3 through a bottle of Joint Help and all my shoulder pain is alleviated!
QUICK QUESTION PLEASE:
Is it safe to take Joint Help daily? I wasn't sure if taking the ParActin for so long was safe. I believe Cissus is fine.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN
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