I know that feel man, you think you're getting close but you've got so much tilt it's kind of embarrassing. I found that "skinning-the-cat" and going into a full German hang before I went into back lever progressions really built a lot of strength for the lever. It's humbling because it's much harder than getting into position at the top and lowering; but trust me it's worth sticking to. I got my back lever this way in a fairly short time, but my friend stayed with the "lowering" method...he's still doing the same progression, hasn't improved his hold time by any noticeable amount (+ can't get fully horizontal). Essentially he wasted his time.
For everyone else looking to progress on static strength elements, a simple google search of "gymnasticbodies killroy70" will lead you to a template I found very helpful. (Chris if I mess something up, feel free to jump in and correct me, you're more knowledgeable when it comes to gymnastics). The basic template looked something like this:
Day 1) planche variations
Day 2) BL variations
Day 3) FL variations
Day 4) Handstand work
The main focus of the routine was the static moves at the start. Picking a progression you can hold for ~12-15s (planche will be harder though) and working in sets of 6-10s (sometimes longer) until you reach a total of 1 minute holding that position; and proceeding with dynamic movements that work the same musculature as the static position. I used it for a while and found it very helpful (especially with back lever).
https://www.gymnasticbodies.com/foru...nner-template/
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05-22-2013, 08:31 AM #3095
TDEE [Total Daily Energy Expenditure]
The amount of calories your body needs to maintain it's current weight.
Only way to found out yours is by trial and error, eating the same amount of cals for 3 weeks and adjust according to your weight fluctuations.
Here's a useful thread about calculating your Calorie & Macronutrients Needs:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981✔ Calisthenics ONLY For MASS & STRENGTH.
✔ No Supplements. No Weights. No Excuses.
✔ DISREGARDS weights*ACQUIRE aesthetics.
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05-22-2013, 09:17 AM #3096
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05-22-2013, 11:18 AM #3097
Ha yeah, embarrassing is right. Thanks for the advice, I'll continue more humbly! I have been coming at it from the German hang approach rather than lowering down, progress is still good but I've just realised how far I have to go. It was demoralizing last night but it's motivating as fuark now.
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05-22-2013, 03:59 PM #3103
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Looks good man. My only suggestions would be to take out one arm chinups. Even though they are assisted, someone using this beginner template won't even be close to being ready enough to try them, and its one of the most common ways of developing tendonitis. One arm bodyweight rows or inverted rows should be fine to help prep for that and will still isolate the biceps like you were talking about.
I would also add some core work on the upper body day, so that it is being worked each day you workout but at a moderate amount.
The Killroy template is good stuff, I've used parts of it from time to time. The only thing to remember is that the variations for these moves come in many shapes and sizes. So a planche variation might be a one arm plank or a forward lean and p-bar walk, not actually a hold all the time. A lot of people on there have been injured using his template because they didn't approach it correctly
Side note: a solid back lever is a pretty common prerequisite for not only the front lever but a planche as well, due to how it preps the shoulder girdle, core and elbows.Brothers of Metal
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05-22-2013, 04:18 PM #3104
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05-22-2013, 05:39 PM #3106
Look 3 posts above yours and see the routine that Chris quoted from Arab Aesthetic.
Remember to never do max holds unless you've been on a month-or-so strength cycle so you actually make gains. Best of luck brah, keep at it and everything will fall into place. Make sure you warm up your lower back and elbows before starting any straight arm/static work.
Thanks for the extra advice Chris, it's easy to get caught up in the "usual" progressions and forget about other preparatory work; that's what I did at the start.Last edited by cdegn; 05-22-2013 at 05:45 PM.
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05-22-2013, 11:07 PM #3108
Hey brahs
I love this thread. It must be my turn to misc.
Everyone seems to want a workout besides several being posted already.
I have only read the first 49 pages but what happened to OP?
Anyway today's workout.
Parallel bars
I do this routine for 5 sets without dropping.
P bar walk from end to end.
Russian dips x 5
180 pivot
L-sit hold for 20 seconds
10 x shrugs
Pbar walk back to the other end
180 pivot
Swing my legs up to the bars and do 10 x deep dips.
Then I hold tuck L-sit until fail; doesn't take long
I do that five times and it burns.
I also do handstand push ups x 5 sets
Planche lean holds then Pseudo push ups x 8 for 5 sets
Tuck planche holds (total 1 minute)
That's just one example
Madbarz have plenty of routines to try too.
GL and train hard.
Do I even misc?
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05-22-2013, 11:10 PM #3109
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05-23-2013, 12:02 AM #3110
Edited.
Thanks for the input brah.
Calisthenics Push/Pull/Legs Routine:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1071882511
Calisthenics Upper/Lower Routine:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1075358351✔ Calisthenics ONLY For MASS & STRENGTH.
✔ No Supplements. No Weights. No Excuses.
✔ DISREGARDS weights*ACQUIRE aesthetics.
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05-24-2013, 11:48 AM #3119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za7jQ1s1BV0
Some solid footage and strong HNNNG in this vid.
Anyways, **** injuries. ****ing **** them. Next time I start working out (in start of July. Cotdamn), I have to go back to basics. Pullups, pushups, dips, chinups, planks, leg raises, dragonflags. No planche or lever stuff. I think My wrist injuries came from training planche and FL without having a solid base on dips and pullups (about 20 and 7 respectively)
But until then: Legs and hand-less abs all day every day!
EDIT: Dunno how to embed vids, can someone teach me?
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05-24-2013, 12:13 PM #3120
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