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    Ok, ive been trainin for years now, but never liked the pullup. I find that it stress's my bicep more than anything and barley feel it in my shoulder/trap area. Someone wanna tell me what i am doing wrong, i would love to know, i truly think it would be a great add as a mass buildder if you got it down right.
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    how do you do your pullups? I found that overhand with a 10" gap between hands stresses the brachiallis and bicep more than the back but a wide grip (14" outside shoulder width) stresses the lats. I mean it may also depend on your structure but speaking on my personal experience wide grips have enabled me to really stretch my scalpulae and widen my lats they are one of my fav. back exercises
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    Originally Posted by CloudSurfer View Post
    how do you do your pullups? I found that overhand with a 10" gap between hands stresses the brachiallis and bicep more than the back but a wide grip (14" outside shoulder width) stresses the lats. I mean it may also depend on your structure but speaking on my personal experience wide grips have enabled me to really stretch my scalpulae and widen my lats they are one of my fav. back exercises
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    I have a partially torn right distal bicep tendon so I have to be careful. I find that by using a thumbless grip and just using my hands as hooks I can take more weight onto my lats and back in general. I do both neutral and wide grip. I don't do chin ups, only pull ups.
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    also, make sure you're using an overhand grip. an underhand grip uses almost all biceps.
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    Originally Posted by rmulax19 View Post
    also, make sure you're using an overhand grip. an underhand grip uses almost all biceps.

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    Originally Posted by Kate~ View Post
    Wide over..narrow under
    not if he's trying to hit more lats than biceps
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    ive always done pullups for my lats. just thought i'd share that.
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    can someone please explain the difference between pull ups and chin ups, I've looked at videos of both and they appear to be much the same?
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    Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    can someone please explain the difference between pull ups and chin ups, I've looked at videos of both and they appear to be much the same?
    Chin ups are traditionally underhand, narrow gripped exercises. Pullups are generally referring to wide grip, over handed exercises. Chin ups= biceps; Pullups=lats
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    Originally Posted by mrselfde_struct View Post
    Ok, ive been trainin for years now, but never liked the pullup. I find that it stress's my bicep more than anything and barley feel it in my shoulder/trap area. Someone wanna tell me what i am doing wrong, i would love to know, i truly think it would be a great add as a mass buildder if you got it down right.

    If I read what you wrote correctly, you are trying to feel it in the wrong areas. It is mainly a lat exercise and that is where you should be feeling it most, although you will feel it in your biceps too, given the motion of the exercise.

    To target your lats, use a wide overhand grip and think about using your lats instead of your arms...It sounds dumb, but thinking about the muscle helps sometimes.
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    Try using a wider overhand grip and contract your shoulder blades as you pull up, that helped me feel it more in my back.
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    Pull-ups are working your back (lats) whether you feel it or not.
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    Pull-ups are great for lat development. Draw your shoulders back and your scapulae together through the whole range of motion to emphasis the lats. Your biceps and forearms will also get work, but you can shift the emphasis easily.
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    Originally Posted by ExtremistPullup View Post
    Pull-ups are working your back (lats) whether you feel it or not.
    not if your pulling primarily with your biceps. in which case, you'd benefit more just from doing another exercise in which you actually feel your back working.
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    Pull with your elbows, not with your biceps. Visualize pulling elbows to torso in an arc, keep elbows forward.
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    Originally Posted by darklight79 View Post
    Pull with your elbows, not with your biceps. Visualize pulling elbows to torso in an arc, keep elbows forward.
    Repped. Focusing onpPulling your elbows back is the best way to feel your back, bar none. In rows too.

    And supinated chin ups are GREAT for the lats. More range of motion and more weight, even if your biceps are working harder.
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    Repped. Focusing onpPulling your elbows back is the best way to feel your back, bar none. In rows too.

    And supinated chin ups are GREAT for the lats. More range of motion and more weight, even if your biceps are working harder.
    I once got through my back workout even with a pretty strained right bicep. Didn't affect it much. If a person knows how to work the back correctly, there would be minimal bicep involvement.
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    Originally Posted by LaxPro View Post
    not if your pulling primarily with your biceps.
    Are you saying I can mentally choose what muscle to pull with during a compound movement.

    The only way I can see to reduce bicep movement is to change the bar he is using to this.
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    That would be like telling someone

    Run with their hips and less with your legs.
    Bench press more with your chest and less with your triceps.
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    Originally Posted by mrselfde_struct View Post
    I find that it stress's my bicep more than anything
    maybe you have a really weak biceps that can't keep up with your lats.


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    and barley feel it in my shoulder/trap area
    Pullups don't target your shoulers and trap if you want to work those do upright rows
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    Originally Posted by LaxPro View Post
    not if your pulling primarily with your biceps. in which case, you'd benefit more just from doing another exercise in which you actually feel your back working.
    I'm no expert, but doing pullups primarily with your biceps seems like something physically impossible. Unless you curl yourself up.
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    Originally Posted by Flying_Fox View Post
    I'm no expert, but doing pullups primarily with your biceps seems like something physically impossible. Unless you curl yourself up.
    you couldn't have shoulder rotation and only elbow flexing for that to be possible.
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    Originally Posted by mrselfde_struct View Post
    Ok, ive been trainin for years now, but never liked the pullup. I find that it stress's my bicep more than anything and barley feel it in my shoulder/trap area. Someone wanna tell me what i am doing wrong, i would love to know, i truly think it would be a great add as a mass buildder if you got it down right.
    Who told you pullups where for shoulders/traps? You should feel pullups in your back/biceps, that's what they are for.
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    Originally Posted by ExtremistPullup View Post
    ya would be able to shoulder rotation just elbow flexing
    Could you rephrase that? I'm just a poor little flemish boy that barely speaks english.
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    Originally Posted by Flying_Fox View Post
    Could you rephrase that? I'm just a poor little flemish boy that barely speaks english.
    fixed
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    Originally Posted by ExtremistPullup View Post
    ya you would only need to have shoulder rotation and no elbow flexing
    Somehow, it seems to me that no elbow flexion would reduce the amount of biceps involved...
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    Originally Posted by Flying_Fox View Post
    Somehow, it seems to me that no elbow flexion would reduce the amount of biceps involved...
    I rephrased how I said it
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    yes it is true that narrow grip works more biceps than lats overall, but i find that by leaning back far at the top of the rep, and touching your fists as low on the pecs as you can, i get a great burn in my middle back and lats. but just do wide grip and it should automatically hit lats more.
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    Originally Posted by ExtremistPullup View Post
    I rephrased how I said it
    Strange, I quoted your post after you said fixed, I thought it was already edited
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    Originally Posted by Flying_Fox View Post
    Strange, I quoted your post after you said fixed, I thought it was already edited
    I had to fix it more then once it was pretty confusing didn't want to add any double negatives.
    Pullups Max reps: 40 reps
    Max weighted pullup:
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    165 lbs x 6 reps
    135 lbs x 8 reps
    100 lbs x 14 reps

    Bench: 365 lbs
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    Press:225 lbs
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