I weigh 155 and can military 85x5 without using no legs at all.
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10-03-2006, 02:20 PM #1
Should you be able to military press your bodyweight?
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10-03-2006, 03:12 PM #2
Depends on your shoulders and tris etc. Similar question to asking if someone can bench their bw etc just keep working at it. Just for reference my highest is doing ~155-165 for reps at a bw of 215.
Total ... what else matters?
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10-03-2006, 03:26 PM #3
It's a goal you should work for, yes.
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10-03-2006, 03:30 PM #4
I know I can't do it, but I want to do it!
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10-03-2006, 04:03 PM #5
id say its a good barometer of strength. Im pretty sure the accepted #s here (all other vaiables non-existent [sp?]) are:
Bench: 1.5x bw
Dead: 2.5xbw
Squat 2x
(Mind you this is for somewhat experienced gym rats and a good starting point for PL)
I weigh 187 and rep my weight while seated and i think few people at my gym can, however, the bigger guys who are exp can do alot more than their bw for reps. So in conclusion, just keep on truckin. the weight will come, youll get it
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10-03-2006, 04:06 PM #6Originally Posted by best regards"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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10-03-2006, 04:45 PM #7Originally Posted by irishkid
i find something like this better
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10-03-2006, 05:45 PM #8Originally Posted by Mr Beer"However, the strength of the hamstring muscles is crucial to fully exploit the strength potential of the quads and ultimately the vertical force that the athlete is able to impart to the barbell." - Andrew Charniga, Jr.
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10-03-2006, 06:25 PM #9Originally Posted by best regards
So you are using leg drive then?I am not trying to be better than you, just better than myself
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10-03-2006, 06:54 PM #10
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10-03-2006, 08:26 PM #11Originally Posted by Kiknskreem
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10-03-2006, 08:52 PM #12
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What is your objective definition of "impressive"? Because mathematically they are the same. Anyway, what I really want to do is defend the "smaller" guys. Lots of people say its "easy" or whathave you, it ain't. I'm 5'6 165 by the way. I do agree however that the 700 pound lift has a bigger "wow" factor.
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10-03-2006, 09:01 PM #13Originally Posted by Kiknskreem
Now if you have 450@200 and 700@ 350, it's becomes harder to say which is more impressive.
BTW, whenever I look at lifts I always compare to bodyweight, and personally I always try to increase my strenght to weight ratio, but there's no denying that its easier for a smaller guy to lift larger percentages of bodyweight.
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10-03-2006, 09:09 PM #14Originally Posted by Kiknskreem
Have a look at any weightlifting records the smaller guys are always doing heavier weights as a percentage of there body weight.
Eg 50kg record is something like a 150kg clean and jerk, there are no 100kg guys doing 300kg C & J.
And that why in powerlifting they use a formula to compare weightlifters from different weight classes because straight ratios would always favour smaller lifters.
so again yes mathemitically ratios mean the lifts are the same but in the real world they are not due to ineffieciences as you get bigger BW ratios always favour smaller lifters.
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10-03-2006, 09:20 PM #15
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I wish I could military my weight! Right now I do BTN with 95 lb.s for 3x5. I do 4x5 with 165 lb.s on bench. My weight when I'm not doing any cardio and just let myself go is 140 lb.s. Normally I weigh 135 lb.s. Is that good?
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10-03-2006, 09:39 PM #16
Here's a link to Kubik's sight. The timetable for the chart was when the overhead press was the favored lift. Kind of depressing
www.brookskubik.com/how_strong.html
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10-03-2006, 10:33 PM #17Originally Posted by bodyweight
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10-04-2006, 08:51 AM #18
i think it would be a good lift.and with no legs makes it an even better lift
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10-04-2006, 09:08 AM #19
I rep about 5 pounds over my bodyweight and that is sitdown military press not push and press. Im not even a powerlifter...
And yes I think people should be able to at least press there weight once.
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10-04-2006, 09:40 AM #20Originally Posted by Guardian'Prior to the Department of Education, there was no illiteracy'
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10-04-2006, 10:07 AM #21
I did 122 pounds, starting from a pause at my collar bone level, and pushing it up slowly with no leg drive. I weight 118. Still, this is not a good ratio to my bench press. I can bench press 200 for 3 anytime. ( Erm, not at any point of time but you get the meaning)
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10-04-2006, 04:27 PM #22
It would be nice to be able to Military my bodyweight, not quite there yet though
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10-04-2006, 05:07 PM #23Originally Posted by Ahlim
Very few people can military press there body weight while alot more can bench there bodyweight. If you ask me its simply how the training has evolved in that everyone focuses on bench.
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10-05-2006, 03:40 PM #24Originally Posted by Guardian
I've been dropping weight for months, i'll bet by the time i'm ripped i'll be able to at least 1 rm my bodyweight on mil press.Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one.
Lift the damn weight, and eat the damn food. It's as hard and as complicated as you make it.
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10-05-2006, 07:45 PM #25Originally Posted by Kouta"In the shade now tall forms are advancing,
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10-05-2006, 08:39 PM #26
I always wondered what is considered impressive for military presses. I don't see many at my gym doing them at all, so I have no way of knowing if what I'm doing is anything to brag about. I can do 135 for 5 and 160 for 1 at a BW of 145 lbs. Is that something worth mentioning when someone asks me what I can move for wieght?
I know that I feel strong doing it, deffinetly. Seeing the bar over your head with a plate on each side in the mirror makes me feel as good as when I'm squatting and benching.
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10-05-2006, 08:58 PM #27
A bodyweight clean and press (push press is ok) is a standard of strength imo.
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10-05-2006, 09:15 PM #28Originally Posted by PaHulkster
I'm not sure what the hell it's called, but what I do is get it to my collar bond from about waist height off the squat rack, and from there I use everything to get it over my head, like back and legs. Still decent? or no?
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10-05-2006, 09:22 PM #29
That basically sounds a hang clean and press. A hang clean is harder than a power clean for me, so that is definitely good. Try cleaning from the floor too. It's a great exercise.
Weights overhead become different when you implement the Olympic jerk. Somebody like Pyrros Dimas who puts up 469 at 180lbs is insanely strong, but there is no way he is push pressing that weight. So I don't include the jerk for bodyweight over your head.
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10-06-2006, 12:48 PM #30
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Originally Posted by Berserker-Power
Someone should tell them to compete!Awesome. Awesome to the max.
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