anyone?Originally Posted by 70cruzer
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Thread: new ergopharm 1 ad????
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01-20-2009, 09:22 AM #2551Registered User
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01-20-2009, 07:36 PM #2552Middle-Aged Computer Nerd
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On the Muscle Mob radio segment Pat talked in last night, he didn't seem to know how this might affect the release date. I guess it depends on how far up their own asses the Feds have wedged their heads. If they've bothered to employ a decent chemist and deduct from there that 6-OXO has neither been "spiked" with microscopic levels of androstenedione that would render the androstenedione even more useless than it is on its own (what would be the point?), and/or they figure out that use of 6-OXO by itself might result in the creation of metabolites that could trigger a false positive for androstenedione (depends on how they're testing, and are they accounting for the fact that the body creates androstenedione on its own anyway?), then hopefully this will all come to a quick and satisfactory conclusion based on the reality that Pat (and ErgoPharm) did nothing wrong and had nothing to do with this beyond selling a legal product (that the MLB happened to ban and that Romero, a "professional" baseball player, should have KNOWN was banned in his league).Originally Posted by TheIceman
Of course it also depends on whether or not the Feds decide that given the state of the economy and the fact of their drawing their salaries from U.S. tax dollars that they feel compelled to invent a case so as to justify their continued employ. After all, Pat's an "easy" target--he got hung out to dry once for providing a substance to athletes who wanted it (and around which there is some question as to the status of its "illegality" at the time of its manufacture and distribution--good luck Barry Bonds, I hope you win on that point!) so pinning this on him could be seen as a slam-dunk, because chemicals ain't natural and therefore chemists are evil and God knows that athletics should only be limited to those people who are lucky enough to be born with the right genetics for the sport, never mind otherwise their desire and drive and work ethic to play. Steroids are magic pills that can make anyone a super-athlete with a minimum of effort (can you find a guy in your gym with 'roids? Check! Can you pop a pill or jab a syringe into your butt? Check! Congratulations, you're the next MVP!). No, we can't have any of that.
Besides, baseball is a matter of national security. It's *important*. It's not just a "game"--LIVES hang in the balance! And, oh God, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! Why waste U.S. tax dollars on stopping the flow of heroin and ******* or hunting down Al Qaida or putting an end to the sex-slave trade when we can stop people from getting more muscular and performing better at sports? We all shudder at the thought. Crack dealer on the corner? Hey, no problem, but if you see a well-built guy or gal who looks like they're just a bit too strong and healthy then grab yer shotgun and send 'em to Hell!Using:
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01-21-2009, 11:39 AM #2553Registered User
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nice rant spider....
i`m with ya on this one......
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01-24-2009, 08:28 PM #2554Registered User
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hate to be that guy but uhum uhum (grasspin throuat) any updates/hints on the new compound?
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01-29-2009, 08:17 PM #2555
bueller?
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01-30-2009, 04:36 AM #2556Registered User
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ferrus beuller ??
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02-02-2009, 06:20 AM #2557Registered User
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anyone?
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02-02-2009, 05:45 PM #2558Middle-Aged Computer Nerd
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Seriously, news anyone? Good, bad or neutral?
I just finished my 11-OXO/6-OXO staggered cycle. Also just ordered AMP2 to give me a little workout boost.... Looking forward to trying that.Using:
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02-02-2009, 05:52 PM #2559Banned
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If Pat commented on the radio that he doesn't know how the release will be affected, then I think no one will know when the release comes.Originally Posted by SpiderJerusalem
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02-02-2009, 07:40 PM #2560Middle-Aged Computer Nerd
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Well, yeah, of course!Originally Posted by Beejis60
But *any* news would be cool. Like, "hey, we synthesized it in the lab today and tested it out on a lab rat, and it can bench press 300lbs now! lol Seriously bro, we're needy!
But on a seriously serious note, I'm sure Pat is not having any fun dealing with the follow-up of the DEA incursion, etc. Was just hoping someone had something encouraging to say...
BTW, on a totally unrelated note, does anyone know why ErgoPharm stopped production of their "All-in-One" BCAA product? That stuff was great. As it is now I'm cutting what I have left of my last container with XTend...Using:
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02-02-2009, 09:03 PM #2561
im guessing if it was in the works and still scheduled for a february release the reps or president would know something. the fact that the only response is crickets chirping bums me out.
i was really looking forward to this since i read about it, and was about due for a new cycle of something. if its going to be a small delay, i would rather wait, cause ive had awesome results on the other versions. but if its going to be months, i guess its time to try out the new i-force product.
im hopeing its still in the works though.
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02-03-2009, 04:44 AM #2562Banned
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hurry up and waitOriginally Posted by Beejis60
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02-03-2009, 05:23 AM #2563Registered User
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When ever it comes out I know I will buy me some
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02-03-2009, 06:17 AM #2564Registered User
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lulz. i couldnt wait so i bought some of the 2008 formula off another forum memberOriginally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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02-03-2009, 01:06 PM #2565Banned
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Truth.Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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02-04-2009, 09:39 PM #2566Registered User
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5b-androstanol ?
5b-androsterone ?
i couldnt find the thread to guess the others in. so im putting my guesses in here.Dead Serious
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02-05-2009, 04:51 AM #2567Banned
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Originally Posted by norcalsfinest
5b androstanes are inactive
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02-05-2009, 06:29 AM #2568Banned
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They're probably balls expensive too since they're unnatural, no?Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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02-05-2009, 07:00 AM #2569Registered User
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so......the new 1-ad still coming out?Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. "
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02-05-2009, 07:38 AM #2570Banned
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Originally Posted by Beejis60
oh no, 5b-androstanes are totally natural. 5b-reductase exists in your body right along with 5a-reductase
one of the most common 5b steroids is the androgen metabolite etiocholanolone
they can be made by Pd catalyzed hydrogenation of delta-4-3-ones in pyridine
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02-05-2009, 09:41 AM #2571Registered User
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good things come to those who waitOriginally Posted by Patrick Arnold
I have nothing to contribute
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02-05-2009, 09:50 AM #2572Registered User
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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
PA stole my answer.LOL
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02-05-2009, 10:33 AM #2573Banned
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Reminds me of something else I got goin in my head.Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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02-05-2009, 07:27 PM #2574Registered User
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I am just glad to see it is still in the works!
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02-13-2009, 10:39 AM #2575Wannabe cardio bunny
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Any updates on the release date or release of the chemical structure
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02-17-2009, 10:15 PM #2576Registered User
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Still coming out within the next 10 days?
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02-18-2009, 04:50 AM #2577Banned
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no. its on hold. something else might be coming soon in the interim though.Originally Posted by TheIceman
i still really want to get this 1-ad out but there are so many extraneous issues with it
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02-18-2009, 04:54 AM #2578Registered User
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There's actually a competitive AI that you've sythesized in the new Vyo-tech's 17-hd???
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02-18-2009, 08:26 PM #2579Safety Not Guaranteed
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Any news on what ever happened with Megamorphisis?
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02-19-2009, 08:41 AM #2580ditto.Originally Posted by Crappero
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