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    Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Defends Partial-birth Abortion

    I hope that the American people are not blinded by the continual media hype, and make an opinion based on the issues instead of the smooth talking, decent looks, and over-all charm. I've been disappointed to hear even friends of mine mention that simply because Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. speaks well and looks good, that he would make the perfect leader, but when asked what they know about what he stands for, not one of them could give an answer. Apparently, to many, all it takes is appearance and performance, never mind actual accomplishments or experience.

    But since I've brought up accomplishments, let me list a few measures that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. backs.

    He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.

    In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.

    He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.

    Also, in 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.

    Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.

    Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.

    In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fundraising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the "so-called" partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

    In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA (Born Alive Infants Protection Act) was sent, Obama prevented it from even getting a hearing. BAIPA, by the way, stated that all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.

    In 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to notify parents when their minor children seek an abortion.

    He voted against a cloning ban in 2000, but voted for it in 2001.

    In 1997, Obama twice voted "present" on an Illinois partial-birth abortion ban.

    For all that he is polished on the surface, his stand on the defenseless seems cold to the core and while I'm able to look past a politician personally, I strongly disapprove of what Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. stands for.

    His Jesus is not my Jesus.

    Lord help us all if Obama is our next President.
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    You can't use his middle name, Hussein!!!

    You're trying to convince people here he's related to Saddam and is a terrorist!!!

    You can't use his middle name, Hussein!!!
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    Originally Posted by Cramerica View Post
    You can't use his middle name, Hussein!!!

    You're trying to convince people here he's related to Saddam and is a terrorist!!!

    You can't use his middle name, Hussein!!!
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    LOL

    And don't forget..................his last name rhymes with Osama.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
    Coincidentally, he voted on another bill to decrease the likelihood of voters/politicians being able to cheat on voting polls.

    It's confusing.
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    Good for him. A bunch of wacko right wing christians who are in the vast minority don't have the right to tell anyone else what to do, however much they are deluded into believing in their own self-importance.
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    I think Obama will be a strong supporter of Abortion rights and will appoint judges to the Supreme court that are pro-choice. On that issue alone, it it almost worth voting for him.
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    Good for him. A bunch of wacko right wing christians who are in the vast minority don't have the right to tell anyone else what to do, however much they are deluded into believing in their own self-importance.
    Based on your statement here you would support social anarchy.

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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    I think Obama will be a strong supporter of Abortion rights and will appoint judges to the Supreme court that are pro-choice. On that issue alone, it it almost worth voting for him.
    You are obviously ignorant to the horrors of partial birth abortions and have never seen any pictures of what that involves.
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    I've never really had much thought of Obama until he came to ASU to speak a month ago. After that, I didn't like him at all. Being at the rally and seeing how he could easily whip up a crowd to agree to anything he says... it reminded me too much of the vid clips of Hitler (yes, serious). Obama didn't speak with the anger Hitler did, but with the manipulative tendencies and crowd pleasing statements that Hilter used.

    Not one of the friends I went with knew where he stood after the rally other than he wanted "change" and hope." They were, I'm afraid, too caught up in this guy's speech. This guy has no substance to him. I would much rather vote for Hillary than him. His disposition seems "dark" (no racist) (no joke), as in I don't get the feeling that he can be trusted.
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    Will Obama appoint justices that follow the Constitution?

    Or will Obama appoint justices that will legislate from the bench or follow the world court even if it destroys our Bill of Rights?

    Also, let's consider who a Democratic Party President has to choose from. It's kind of slim-pickins'.

    For several decades, presidents have drawn their Supreme Court nominees from the ranks of appellate judges appointed by previous presidents of the same party. And, because the Democrats have been out of the White House for two terms, most of the sitting Democratic appellate judges are too old to be considered plausible Supreme Court candidates. For this reason, a President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton might have to look for candidates in unexpected places.

    A big issue between the final two candidates (and/or a third party) will be who they likely appoint for the Supreme Court, since those appointed last a long while.
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    You are obviously ignorant to the horrors of partial birth abortions and have never seen any pictures of what that involves.
    Actually, I not a fan of abortions. However, I feel the decision is best made by a woman and her doctor, not the government.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Based on your statement here you would support social anarchy.

    Come back to earth and join the human race.
    Lol, my statement said nothing even remotely related to anarchy. read much?
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    Either way the American people will have two steamy piles of **** to choose from come November. Hold your nose and throw your vote away once again.
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    Originally Posted by legacyguy View Post
    I've never really had much thought of Obama until he came to ASU to speak a month ago. After that, I didn't like him at all. Being at the rally and seeing how he could easily whip up a crowd to agree to anything he says... it reminded me too much of the vid clips of Hitler (yes, serious). Obama didn't speak with the anger Hitler did, but with the manipulative tendencies and crowd pleasing statements that Hilter used.

    Not one of the friends I went with knew where he stood after the rally other than he wanted "change" and hope." They were, I'm afraid, too caught up in this guy's speech. This guy has no substance to him. I would much rather vote for Hillary than him. His disposition seems "dark" (no racist) (no joke), as in I don't get the feeling that he can be trusted.
    Too many people who support him haven't a clue what his voting record consists of and what he really stands for.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Too many people who support him haven't a clue what his voting record consists of and what he really stands for.
    If he doesn't pick up his act, he'll follow John Kerry...no one knew what in the hell he stood for in his Presidential bid.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    I hope that the American people are not blinded by the continual media hype, and make an opinion based on the issues instead of the smooth talking, decent looks, and over-all charm. I've been disappointed to hear even friends of mine mention that simply because Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. speaks well and looks good, that he would make the perfect leader, but when asked what they know about what he stands for, not one of them could give an answer. Apparently, to many, all it takes is appearance and performance, never mind actual accomplishments or experience.

    But since I've brought up accomplishments, let me list a few measures that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. backs.

    He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
    So you're saying that people who vote shouldn't be I.D.'ed? Uhm... Yeah, I can see the problem there I guess. Since "ILLEGAL AMIGOS" seems to be getting under everyone's skin, they wouldn't want some people who "Don't belong here" deciding their President. So I agree with you there.

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    In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.
    Hermmmmm... Strange.

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    He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.
    Well, like Bush, I'm sure he wasn't looking at what he was signing.

    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Also, in 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.

    Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.

    Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.
    No comments on those, don't really understand.

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    In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fundraising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the "so-called" partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.
    Kids shouldn't have kids. People who make 12,000 dollars a year shouldn't have kids. So I'm pro abortion.

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    In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA (Born Alive Infants Protection Act) was sent, Obama prevented it from even getting a hearing. BAIPA, by the way, stated that all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.



    In 2001, he voted "present" on a bill to notify parents when their minor children seek an abortion.

    He voted against a cloning ban in 2000, but voted for it in 2001.

    In 1997, Obama twice voted "present" on an Illinois partial-birth abortion ban.
    Okay, so he's pro abortion. A lot of people are. I hope you're not implying he's not a good person because of this?

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    For all that he is polished on the surface, his stand on the defenseless seems cold to the core and while I'm able to look past a politician personally, I strongly disapprove of what Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. stands for.

    His Jesus is not my Jesus.

    Lord help us all if Obama is our next President.
    You can't be serious. I mean, you are much older than me and have gone through a lot more I'm sure... But we are in an evolved state of mind and society where this crap should not matter anymore. I mean, Texas isn't going to vote for him because he's black. That's plain and simple. In fact, a lot of southern whites aren't going to vote for him because he's black. What year is it? And people still can't get over that white's aren't the only ones that matter? Comparing his Jesus to your Jesus... You should really READ both those books before you start comparing, the similarities are shocking. And who cares? It's not like he's going to say "Well Allah would have me do this as President, so I will!"

    I was into your argument full force until that Jesus comment.
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    Originally Posted by grup910 View Post
    Lol, my statement said nothing even remotely related to anarchy. read much?
    Sorry that my post sailed over your head.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Sorry that my post sailed over your head.
    lol, nothing sailed over my head, except for the fact that you don't know how to read, or apparently think.
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    Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Based on your statement here you would support social anarchy.
    That's an interesting conclusion.

    I just don't understand (that's not true) why people put abortion and gay rights at the top of their voting priority list.

    Like everything else will just fix itself if we stop abortions and gay marriages.
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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    That's an interesting conclusion.

    I just don't understand (that's not true) why people put abortion and gay rights at the top of their voting priority list.

    Like everything else will just fix itself if we stop abortions and gay marriages.
    Enforcing The Bible comes before our countrymen, children, education, drugs, wars, and social-economical problems. Or from what I have concluded listening to the world around me.
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    Originally Posted by JAGERBOY View Post
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    Originally Posted by Project_C View Post
    Enforcing The Bible comes before our countrymen, children, education, drugs, wars, and social-economical problems. Or from what I have concluded listening to the world around me.
    Most of the people I've talked to that are against abortion don't bring religion into the conversation at all.
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    Originally Posted by Project_C View Post
    Okay, so he's pro abortion. A lot of people are. I hope you're not implying he's not a good person because of this?
    He's in favor of Partial-Birth-Abortion.
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