If there were as much money in MMA as there is in boxing, elite boxers would enter the scene and completely annihilate your heroes. They would spend a couple of weeks learning takedown defense and then we would see some very embarrassing fights with the MMA "elite" getting knocked out like amateurs.
It had to be said.
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Thread: You're all kidding yourselves...
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02-12-2008, 02:43 AM #1
You're all kidding yourselves...
I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and the most ruthless champion there's ever been. No one can stop me--Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever--there's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey; I'm from their cloth. There's no one like me. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable; and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart.
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02-12-2008, 02:50 AM #2
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02-12-2008, 02:55 AM #4
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02-12-2008, 03:06 AM #6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ycjY3Yu-NQ
1:02, a punch from Tyson damn near lifts a 200+ pound man off of his feet, and he's wearing regulation size boxing gloves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htWaZ5BxQgk
Fedor doesn't know how to punch, and obviously has little talent for it. Look at him throwing "punches" at 1:10.
...Is this a joke? Are we on Candid Camera? Those punches are absurd. Tyson (or even a lesser elite boxer) would simply destroy this try-hard.
****, Tyson in his prime could walk into the octagon having been told five minutes before that wrestling is allowed and probably literally kill anyone they put in there with him, considering those tiny little gloves.
If elite boxers ever start competing in MMA there will be an uproar because deaths will occur. Deaths already occur in boxing, and the gloves are twice as large.I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and the most ruthless champion there's ever been. No one can stop me--Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever--there's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey; I'm from their cloth. There's no one like me. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable; and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart.
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02-12-2008, 03:10 AM #7
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02-12-2008, 03:17 AM #8
Fixed.
Dude, wrap your head around this: no MMA fighter alive could take a punch from Tyson with those tiny little gloves, and no MMA fighter alive is fast enough that they'd be able to somehow avoid it. Tyson in his prime would dominate MMA so thoroughly it would be disgusting to watch.
Edit: and to the guy who negged me, no, I'm not a troll. You can go through my post history and see that I'm a normal poster. I just felt sort of argumentative (I won't deny it) and when I feel argumentative I like to annoy dogmatic people (Christians, hardcore libertarians, hardcore communists, MMA fanatics who fail to see the difference between the raw power of an elite boxer and the try-hards in the UFC) with truths that they'd rather not face.Last edited by Logicalypso; 02-12-2008 at 03:20 AM.
I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and the most ruthless champion there's ever been. No one can stop me--Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever--there's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey; I'm from their cloth. There's no one like me. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable; and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart.
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02-12-2008, 03:20 AM #9
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02-12-2008, 03:25 AM #10
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02-12-2008, 03:26 AM #11
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02-12-2008, 03:29 AM #12I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and the most ruthless champion there's ever been. No one can stop me--Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever--there's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey; I'm from their cloth. There's no one like me. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable; and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart.
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02-12-2008, 03:31 AM #13
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02-12-2008, 03:46 AM #14
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Wow....just, wow.....
Let us know when your observance of MMA exceeds 4 hours, alright?
We learned what happened when a pure boxer enters MMA in 1993.
Screw mixed martial artists! A pure wrestler could beat a pure boxer any damn day of the week.
It's just the name of the game, pal, and even ****-talking "heroes" of boxing such as Floyd Mayweather Jr. are not only too scared to try and back this assertion up, but they are using fukking money as an excuse....
Are you telling me that someone who is a MULTI-MILLIONAIRE somehow can't afford to chase his pride and back up his mouth for six months before returning to doing whatever he wants to do??? There's a REASON we'll never see a pure boxer in MMA. We know it, and they know it.....Why don't you?
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02-12-2008, 04:11 AM #15
Uh, if you had a limited number of years during which you could perform at your athletic peak, and you got paid millions of dollars per fight, you wouldn't waste six months of your valuable time to back up your mouth. But that doesn't mean that you wouldn't recognize your own ability and the abilities of others.
I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and the most ruthless champion there's ever been. No one can stop me--Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best ever--there's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey; I'm from their cloth. There's no one like me. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable; and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart.
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02-12-2008, 04:19 AM #16
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02-12-2008, 04:33 AM #17
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"a couple of weeks" Nice try! Did you ever see the Ali-Inoki fight in which Inoki was not even allowed to wrestle but still essentially won the fight by kicking Ali's legs? This wasnt even close to MMA but still exposed how limited Boxers were in defending other arts. This fight is often attributed to Ali's poor performances afterwards due to the damage he took to his legs. Youtube it.It is universally well known, that in digesting our common food, there is created or produced in the bowels of human creatures, a great quantity of wind. That the permitting this air to escape and mix with the atmosphere, is usually offensive to the company, from the fetid smell that accompanies it. That all well-bred people therefore, to avoid giving such offence, forcibly restrain the efforts of nature to discharge that wind.
Ben Franklin Essay about "Trouser Coughs" 1781-
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02-12-2008, 05:08 AM #18
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My forearms are MkII muscles, my biceps are MkVI, my chest and back are MkXV, my quads though are the Super MkXXs. Now if you're saying that Tyson only had MkIIb jacked fibres, then he's nothing compared to me.
In the mean time, do you have any evidence of top level boxers destroying top level mma fighters? Look at all the k1 champions, Tyson could compete with a K1 champion and he would stand a chance against other standup based mma fighters, guys like Liddel, Sylvia, Kongo, Cro Cop, etc, but he would still need to learn a heck of a lot, especially when he get's put in the ring with a heavyweight Thai boxer.
Against a more wrestler/ground style of fighter or a fighter that can move from standup to ground fighting easily, people like Lesnar, Fedor, Big Nog, Tyson would have huge problems. And remember, Fedor has beaten K1 champions in a standup fight, so Tyson wouldn't pose much of a problem, especially since he'll have no takedown defence, no wrestling experience, no clinch work, no kicks, no kick defence, no sub defence, no gnp work, etc. Another thing that a boxer would need to adapt to would be the smaller gloves, a 16oz glove covers your head very well, mma gloves are 4oz, i think, so they're a lot smaller, so he would need to be aware of that when he covers up from jabs, crosses and especially hooks.Last edited by Maine; 02-12-2008 at 05:13 AM.
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02-12-2008, 05:11 AM #19
Lol, i was just thinking about UFC 1 where the Pro boxer wore ONE(just one)boxing glove into the ring. The fact is, boxers, Yes and Mike Tyson, get the chance to hit as hard as they do.......now listen closely BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING TAKEN DOWN! In mma theres also kicks, knees, elbows, Its not the same game and you cant take the "sweet science" into the cage. The cage is a completely different branch of science. Keep your guard up like you do in boxing and you gonna get take down, so many examples, but i guess the OP has no experience or knowledge of true fighting.
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02-12-2008, 05:14 AM #20
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02-12-2008, 05:27 AM #21
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02-12-2008, 05:40 AM #22
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It's one thing if you're an up-and-comer, but Floyd Mayweather Jr. lives in a PALACE.....Are you telling me that he can't stand to sacrifice a couple million to supposedly "expose" MMA as being exactly what he says it is?
Like I said before, but not in so many words---using "money" as an excuse to dodge a fight, especially if you've talked **** about it, makes you the biggest, stinkiest, hooker-vagina in the world!
Bottom line--you're wrong, bro.
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02-12-2008, 05:41 AM #23
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02-12-2008, 05:42 AM #24
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02-12-2008, 05:47 AM #25
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02-12-2008, 05:49 AM #26
You know, I used to believe the samething. I thought that with just two weeks of sprawl training, a boxer could do what he does best. Then I got kicked in the face, kicked in the thigh, kicked in the inner-thigh, kneed in the chest, hip-tossed, caught a knee to my chin, then got jab, cross, hooked.
Someone was better than me. I got pwnd. Three years later, I laugh at people like you. In bars, in gyms, on T.V., in class, at work, on the interwebz. Go troll somewhere else. Fatty.Moved Squat, Bench, and Deadlift to Yoke, Log, and Stones.
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02-12-2008, 05:51 AM #27
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