I have been reading all of everyones great posts on Superdrol and i have decided that i do not want to take it. I am 21 years old and i dont want to take such a risk with a good product at my age. But i was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions on what i might be able to stack with on-cycle by fizogen that would really make an impact?? Or maybe just some alternatives for Superdrol that would be safer to take. Thanks.
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07-13-2005, 04:09 PM #1
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Superdrol Alternatives????
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07-13-2005, 04:44 PM #2
**** bro, Superdrol is just about as safe as it gets! Seriously, I can't name a friendlier steroid. It's stronger and less androgenic than the "nicest" steroids out there, like deca, avavar, M4OHN, etc... It was designed to be this way. The only real issue with it is lipids.
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07-13-2005, 04:47 PM #3
Hmm, I will tell you now that if you are unwilling to take a few risks (Which can easily be minimized) no steroid or pro-steriod is for you... It's that simple.
SD is easily one of the best (legal) supplements in terms of gains and offers practically no side effects if used properly.
You might consider Ergomax... but again, same risks as SD... If you're feeling this reserved and cautious, that's fine... anabolics are not for you, that's all
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07-13-2005, 04:53 PM #4Originally Posted by Halfroman
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07-13-2005, 04:57 PM #5
Odd, I heard otherwise... But you know what, you're probably correct... DMT is quite powerfull infact all things considered that was a stupid thing of me to say.
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reps for pointing out that error
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07-13-2005, 05:30 PM #6
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Sides??
What are some of the side effects that associate with Superdrol? I mean im not afraid to take anything really i just read that between 18 and 21 my test levels are at their highest. Im just afraid i guess if i use superdrol that i wont be able to bring testosterone levels back to normal. The only prohormone i have used in the past was On-cycle by Fizogen before prohormones were banned and i loved it. Strength gains were great and when i was on it i was the ripped i have ever been.
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07-13-2005, 06:31 PM #7Originally Posted by LethalX
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07-13-2005, 06:36 PM #8
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Recommendations?
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07-13-2005, 06:51 PM #9Originally Posted by LethalX
For protection, it's only a cardiovascular concern. Flax, fish and safflower oil is a great combo. You can also use some Poli w/ Q10 if you like, but I usually don't. Specific liver protection with doses of 30mg or less for 4 or less weeks IS NOT REQUIRED. Otherwise, for PCT I suggest this (assuming a 4wk SD cycle like 10,20,30,30):
wk1: Fenugreek 4 caps/night, Clomid 50mg, DHEA 200mg, LX 100mg
wk2: Fenugreek 5 caps/night, Clomid 25mg, RXT 25mg, DHEA 100mg, LX 50mg
wk3: Fenugreek 6 caps/night, RXT 50mg, DHEA 100mg
wk4: RXT 50mg
Edit: Also, I do recommend milk thistle during PCT and/or during the use of any SERM for any amount of time.Last edited by Phat Daddy; 07-13-2005 at 06:54 PM.
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07-13-2005, 07:01 PM #10
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Originally Posted by Phat Daddy
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07-13-2005, 07:19 PM #11
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Also...
Just alittle clarification....
Fenugreek - Offcycle
LX - Lean Xtreme
RXT - Rebound XT
DHEA - Any product you suggest??
Clomid - Any product you suggest??
Also you dont have to take RXT the first week??? Whats the reason for that? Just curious.
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07-13-2005, 07:38 PM #12Originally Posted by LethalX
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07-13-2005, 09:18 PM #13Originally Posted by Phat Daddy
realistically for pct of an average cycle say 3-4 weeks of superdrol at 20mg
all you need to do is this. its not as good as the suggested pct above but its helva lot cheaper, i think people act like superdrol is poision its actully pretty damn safe, driving a car is alot more dangerous risk wise. Superdrol is not that supressive, doesnt aromatise and is not to liver toxic. The only bad thing is the poor lipid profile some people got so have plenty of efa's
pct, with lots of efa's throuout
rebound xt 75mg week 1
rebound xt 50mg week 2 -3
rebound xt 25mg week 4
i like to combine witha natural test booster like trib, but thats just mePHD in bro science
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07-13-2005, 09:46 PM #14
Actually there is evidence that Nolva helps to increase LH and is thus useful besides as an antiestrogen.
/karp
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07-14-2005, 02:43 AM #15Originally Posted by jrkarp
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07-14-2005, 04:21 AM #16
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Originally Posted by Phat Daddy
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07-14-2005, 08:58 AM #17
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so dudes, for all this flaxseed and otehr PCT items, what are cheap brand names prodcuts taht you can buy? yeah, SDisnt that expensive, but how much will the PCT run a guy for money?
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07-14-2005, 11:05 AM #18
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07-14-2005, 11:11 AM #19
Alright i know i'm 15 but i was in need of a supplement for strength gains in football. So I decided to take superdrol. I have not experienced any side effects except i seem to blow a fuse pretty easy but nothing physical and it works really good. So a 21 year old should be fine just make sure to take rebound xt. I also heard **** works good i've never tried it though.
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07-14-2005, 02:10 PM #20
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hey phatdaddy, how would u compare SD to Ergomax LMG/Max LMG in terms of gains/efficacy, side effects/safety, suppression, etc.?
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07-14-2005, 02:54 PM #21Originally Posted by aceman0920
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07-14-2005, 04:25 PM #22Originally Posted by ArmstrongMike
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07-14-2005, 04:29 PM #23Originally Posted by Phat DaddyRespek!
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07-14-2005, 04:34 PM #24
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Hold on
He wasnt saying that he would recommend 15 and 16 years olds to use the product. He was just sharing his own experience.
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07-14-2005, 05:30 PM #25Originally Posted by LethalX
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07-15-2005, 09:54 AM #26
i'm not saying it was a smart thing for me to use it. It probably wasnt for a kid my age but i'm just trying to help this guy out because he was looking for people to give opinions on supps.
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07-15-2005, 12:25 PM #27
so a serm like nolva or clomid would be a must for a SD pct?
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07-15-2005, 12:52 PM #28
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what are the exact items i need for PCT? can you tell me brands and [price and wehre to get em? thanks
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07-15-2005, 01:46 PM #29
they say ergo is more friendlier than superdrol...
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07-15-2005, 04:05 PM #30
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Originally Posted by martymcfly
Fenugreek - Offcycle
LX - Lean Xtreme
RXT - Rebound XT
DHEA - Higher Power DHEA 200
Clomid - Custom Nutrition Warehouse sells a good one
There you are. You can work from there. You can get them from body building.com, Custom Nutrition Warehouse .com, designersupps.com, Mass Nutrition .com for example. Really all you have to do is go to a search engine and search. You can find some good stuff for cheap.
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