help on eating 6000 calories a day please help

[texlonghornz2]

hey im a highschool football player and bball player and i need to gain about 20 more lbs by oct/nov im 6'4" and 220 and ive already gained 35 lbs in the last yr my question is how do i eat this much. my previous diet of 5000 calories has stopped working and im extermely active i have football mon-thur 7am til noon and then basketball games at night usually a double header any way u could help me would be appreciated. oh by the way my 5000 calorie diet consisited of 700 g carbs 400 g protein and 78g fat

[cobain67]

hey im a highschool football player and bball player and i need to gain about 20 more lbs by oct/nov im 6'4" and 220 and ive already gained 35 lbs in the last yr my question is how do i eat this much. my previous diet of 5000 calories has stopped working and im extermely active i have football mon-thur 7am til noon and then basketball games at night usually a double header any way u could help me would be appreciated. oh by the way my 5000 calorie diet consisited of 700 g carbs 400 g protein and 78g fat

at your caloric level you may find it beneficial to drink home made shakes throughout the day, or wake up in the middle of the night to eat/chug a shake..

[ericTHEninja]

What was your diet before? It'd probably be easier to modify it to hit 6000 if that's what you really want, if we knew what exactly you were eating.

[taffer]

2 words for you
processed carbs

[sickwitit]

2 words for you
processed carbs

exactly. If you need this much to gain weight, hows this EAT MORE. Just eat healthy calories but a ****load. You could probably cheat and it wouldnt matter but not too often just a few times. Peanut butter and stuff like this is the way to go.

[zcsmith]

Yea, I would vote for some calorie dense food. I'm not saying that you should outlaw veggies or anything, but if you have to take down that many calories, vegtables are only going to fill you up and not giving you any calories.

--Nuts
--peanuts
--cereal
--pop tarts

So yea, as someone said above, processed foods will be great. Oatmeal and such will fill you up too quickly.

[Krzna]

I am around the same caloric levels as you. I started at 6000 now around 5500.
What you need for your body to absorb all you eat are Partitoning Agents
This is my sample diet
Sample diet -
9 am Whey protein + flax oil
10 am Brown bread , Peanut Butter, Chicken
12 pm rice and fish (any kind)
230pm cereal/oats/buckwheat and red. fat milk
4 00pm Steak pieces and eggs
5 30 Veggies and bananas

I should have gone to the restroom 2x by now.

7 00 pm preworkout proteins and complex carbs potatoes and brownrice or pasta
9 00 pm ABB XXL drink 1100 cals
9 30 pm dinner whatever I get no rice tho'
11 00 pm Peanut butter to slow down digestion
3 am Whey with milk

My diet is basically a Paleo approach has more protein and carbohydrates, less fats overall, though more healthy fats and a better Omega 3 to Omega 6 fat balance. Plus it naturally includes vastly more fiber and micronutrients (vitamins and minerals). Make sure you have some fish oils and flax in ur diet too.

I make sure my regular intake consists of sterones and Methoxyisoflavone. So those are the partitioning agents to control my protein absorbtion. Good luck!

[4amWorkouts]

Up the fat and decrease the basketball...

[creed428]

as an endomorph i would just like to say i hate you for being able to eat that much if you are eating 6000 calories and only taking in 78 grams of fat you should up that to closer to 150grams of healthy fats eat alot of nut butters, nuts, and use olive oil, flax oil, fish oil ect...

[waitlifter82]

as an endomorph i would just like to say i hate you for being able to eat that much if you are eating 6000 calories and only taking in 78 grams of fat you should up that to closer to 150grams of healthy fats eat alot of nut butters, nuts, and use olive oil, flax oil, fish oil ect...

I would rather eat 2500 cals instead of 6000 to gain weight..... but i agree w/ you on the fat.

[dexterium]

I highly suggest that you look into steal cut oats as a source for your carbs.

1/4 a cup of Steel Cut Oats =

157 calories
27 carbs
6 protein
2.8 fat

Do the math and 1 cup =

628 cals
108 carbs
24 protein
11.2 fat

These are extremely healthy with a low Glycemic Index. You don't need that processed crap. I know it can be hard to get in all that protein so you're obviously going to have to buy some whey protein off of bb.com. Enough can't be said about peanut butter for large amounts of calories.

You should also be consuming more than 78 g of fat.

If you want to be consuming 6000 calories, you should be consuming 20% of your calories from fat, 25% of which should be saturated and the others should be healthy fats... of course, get some fish oil. So, 133 grams of fat for you. There are members on this board who will go as high as 30% for their fat intake.

[taffer]

i dont see any problem with his fat intake
i'd suggest getting some dense carb in around your training, stuff that wont bloat you or make you feel like crap


EDIT: 5000th post

[BackInTheJox]

i dont see any problem with his fat intake

It comes out to 14% of his daily calories. That's pretty low.

[creed428]

i dont see any problem with his fat intake
EDIT: 5000th post

the reason i say he needs more fat is because he is only getting about 10% of his calories from fat which is very low and he is looking for ways to increase his calories adding fat would be the easiest way since they are more calorie dense. congrats on 5000th by the way

[Nibblesworth]

3lbs of steak has something like 3,500 calories in it. Some think that's expensive, but if you buy skirt steaks and pan fry the hell out of them, they are GOOD (make sure to add a fair amount of salt).

I try to eat about 1lb of beef/day to get to my 2800 calorie mark. I KNOW for a FACT that I could eat 3lbs if I had beef for breakfast, beef for lunch, and beef for dinner. Between meals eat whole-grain bread with a dong-load of peanut butter. Add some pasta with a healthy tomato sauce, chicken breasts, and a lot of olive oil.

Sh!t, man. I WISH I was on a 6,000 calorie/day diet! My mouth is watering.

[Glenn Gould]

6000 seems a bit extreme.
I've got an article by Gary Strydom where he says 6 or 7000 is just insane. And he was a top-noch IFBB pro back then! (also one of the most massive of that era).
If you're pumping iron, and making steady progress a good, healthy diet + supplements should be enough.

[ratmonkey]

6000 seems a bit extreme.
I've got an article by Gary Strydom where he says 6 or 7000 is just insane. And he was a top-noch IFBB pro back then! (also one of the most massive of that era).
If you're pumping iron, and making steady progress a good, healthy diet + supplements should be enough.

if he's not gaining at 6k calories then it isn't that insane for him then is it?

up your fat intake so that it's at least 20% of your calories.

[whiplash]

Sh!t, man. I WISH I was on a 6,000 calorie/day diet! My mouth is watering.

Thats too funny, I was thinking the same thing.


Just double what you are doing and add a few extra shakes. It wuldnt hurt to increase your fats, sounds like too little?

[Glenn Gould]

"if he's not gaining at 6k calories then it isn't that insane for him then is it?"

Maybe he's not pumping iron heavy enough. Or getting enough rest. It seems a lot of people still subscribe to the "more is better" notion and apply it to everything.

[BackInTheJox]

"if he's not gaining at 6k calories then it isn't that insane for him then is it?"

Maybe he's not pumping iron heavy enough. Or getting enough rest. It seems a lot of people still subscribe to the "more is better" notion and apply it to everything.

You obviously do not understand the laws of thermodynamics.

Please don't give out terrible advice to people looking for good advice.

[taffer]

It comes out to 14% of his daily calories. That's pretty low.

its not like your fat requirements increase with your calories, the body doesnt listen to percentages, the only reason his fat percentage is low is because his carb and protein grams are so high which he needs because of his active lifestyle (carbs for energy, protein for muscle building/sparing)

[BackInTheJox]

its not like your fat requirements increase with your calories

Yes, it is like that.

[taffer]

Yes, it is like that.

no its not, its not like your body says "oh no, im getting less than 20% fats time to drop testosterone production"

exaplain to me why you need more fats, if you are taking in an extra 100g carbs for activity?
your body DOES NOT listen to percentages, he has enough fat there to get rid of any bad effects, and any extra fat would simply impact on his carb intake which would probly be a bad thing since fats arent as an effective source of fuel as carbs

[25nj]

hey im a highschool football player and bball player and i need to gain about 20 more lbs by oct/nov im 6'4" and 220 and ive already gained 35 lbs in the last yr my question is how do i eat this much. my previous diet of 5000 calories has stopped working and im extermely active i have football mon-thur 7am til noon and then basketball games at night usually a double header any way u could help me would be appreciated. oh by the way my 5000 calorie diet consisited of 700 g carbs 400 g protein and 78g fat

a 5000 calorie diet is insane. it would be such a pain in the arse eating that much every single day. I search these boards looking for others who eat way more calories than I do for inspiration. I eat 3400 everyday, i just cut down from 3600 two weeks ago and it takes me all day to eat that much. 5000 calories a day seriously deserves like a metal or something.

[majortrepak]

hey im a highschool football player and bball player and i need to gain about 20 more lbs by oct/nov im 6'4" and 220 and ive already gained 35 lbs in the last yr my question is how do i eat this much. my previous diet of 5000 calories has stopped working and im extermely active i have football mon-thur 7am til noon and then basketball games at night usually a double header any way u could help me would be appreciated. oh by the way my 5000 calorie diet consisited of 700 g carbs 400 g protein and 78g fat

Oil Oil 120 cals per tablespoon
10+ per day

[Xiphos]

One word for you:

Mcdonalds

[biques]

buy a deep fryer

it would be pretty difficult (and probably expensive) to eat 6000 calories clean, especially for an hs student, so dirty bulking is probably not too much of a bad idea (and it's more fun!!)

[IH8CARDIO]

Eat more steak.