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    Ephedra vs. Ephedrine HCL??

    I posted in the Teen forum but i didn't recieve an answer.

    OK, now i just told my friend of this newly imposed ban on ephedra. Yes i was pissed, but he was freaking out i told him that ephedrine HCL is still availlable, but he keeps telling me its **** and its not as good as ephedra(mu Huang).

    I thought the consensus on these forums was that the HCL was more effective with less sides than Ephedra??Could someone plz help me out??
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    Re: Ephedra vs. Ephedrine HCL??

    Originally posted by Ubėr-Anarchist
    I thought the consensus on these forums was that the HCL was more effective with less sides than Ephedra??Could someone plz help me out??
    You are correct. Ephedrine is the active ingredient extracted from the herb ephedra (Ma Huang). It is synthetically produced, which is better then the ephedra, or the herb. It is sometimes more potent, and more pure

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    Problem is ephedrine hcl is always packaged with guainefesin.
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    i've always liked the feeling of ephedrine hcl vs ephedra. i find ephedrine hcl to be more effective and less jittery than ephedra based products.
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    Originally posted by MarcusG
    Problem is ephedrine hcl is always packaged with guainefesin.
    well i live in canada and u can only buy Ephedrine HCL pills in 8mg sizes. So would it still contain guainefesin?? Just wondering, what the hell is guainefesin???
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    Originally posted by Ubėr-Anarchist
    what the hell is guainefesin???
    Guaifenesin is a drug that reduces the thickness and stickiness of mucus. It is used for short-term relief of dry, nonproductive cough and mucus in the breathing passages. Guaifenesin is available in prescription products, nonprescription products alone, and in combination with other nonprescription drugs, to treat symptoms of allergy, colds, and upper respiratory infections. It is normally used in conjunction with ephedrine hcl, which is a bronchodilator (for asthma) to open air passages for easier breathing.

    http://www.guaifenesin.com/home.htm
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    http://www.cfs-recovery.org/guaifenesin.htm

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    Thanks for the info sawastea. yur a good man
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    Kazian Ephedrine HCL 8mg from canada

    Shipping is slow(3 days canadapost, 5 days customs and 7days usps) but it does not contain anything extra.
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    Holy **** dude. Resurrection of a 6.5 year thread!!!
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    Originally Posted by aobrist932 View Post
    Shipping is slow(3 days canadapost, 5 days customs and 7days usps) but it does not contain anything extra.
    what was your thought when replying to this thread?
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    ephedra is usually the herbal form and it sometimes has moderate to low amount of ephedrine

    ephedrine hcl and sulfate is ephedrine with a compound added and it acts the same way on the CNS as regular ephedrine only it has different molecular weight

    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.
    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.
    and Ephedra can be as low as 1% ephedrine by weight.
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    Originally Posted by Ooface View Post
    what was your thought when replying to this thread?
    We just hit that button and whoo! Magrathea. I think, I mean we've hit it twice and we're still not there.
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    Originally Posted by Ubėr-Anarchist View Post
    I posted in the Teen forum but i didn't recieve an answer.

    OK, now i just told my friend of this newly imposed ban on ephedra. Yes i was pissed, but he was freaking out i told him that ephedrine HCL is still availlable, but he keeps telling me its **** and its not as good as ephedra(mu Huang).

    I thought the consensus on these forums was that the HCL was more effective with less sides than Ephedra??Could someone plz help me out??
    Ephedra extract contains several different types of ephedrine, resins etc. and has a gentler ramp up/taper to it. Ephedrine HCL is pure ephedrine and imparts a much quicker rise/fall in stim effects.

    The key with the herb is the extraction. A quality 8% extract was far superior to ephedrine hcl IMO. There are very few still available.
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    Originally Posted by Mixelflick View Post
    Ephedra extract contains several different types of ephedrine, resins etc. and has a gentler ramp up/taper to it. Ephedrine HCL is pure ephedrine and imparts a much quicker rise/fall in stim effects.

    The key with the herb is the extraction. A quality 8% extract was far superior to ephedrine hcl IMO. There are very few still available.
    Dude you just responded to a 6.5 year old question.
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