It’s actually amazing how rustled people get about tradies making bank

[DuracellBunny]

There are tradies and there are tradies, just like there are white collar people and white collar people.

You have guys that bust their asses all day and guys that fk around, whether on a job site or WFH, doing the absolute minimum they can get away without being fired.

I respect anybody that busts their ass to put food on the table and a roof over their head.

I don't respect lazy kunts who whine that they deserve more money, respect, status etc when they sit there all day with their thumbs up their asses.

[Destor]

Most tradies do not commute ( and if they do it's on the clock ).

And/or a company or rental truck and gas card

I’ve put so many km on rental F150s

[Anachron]

Just LOL at wincel digging a hole for himself, pulling himself out, then digging an even bigger hole to fall back into, in the space of a single post and two edits.

Just LOL @ the pseudointellectuals who are whining about "uneducated people".

A bit of introspection would be really beneficial.

[Anachron]

And/or a company or rental truck and gas card

I’ve put so many km on rental F150s

Yup, that's what I meant.

Company saves money by not having to park the trucks somewhere, tradies get paid to literally valet the truck to their home.

[JayJ350]

It's because of all the white collar college types who have spent their life and money trying to obtain an elite career status only to have the white collar world come crashing down with blue collar tradies making bank.

[Anachron]

It's because of all the white collar college types who have spent their life and money trying to obtain an elite career status only to have the white collar world come crashing down with blue collar tradies making bank.

Baskey weaving majors had "elite careers"?

Just LOL.

[gwg77]

It's just a sense of moral outrage that we don't feel as if people of low intelligence should be entitled to a remuneration rivalling that of more intelligent and educated professions. Your payment is supposed to reflect both the value to society, the period of education required, and the intelligence that the job demands.


But still, it doesn't matter how much you might earn. No one like that could ever rub that in my face, since you are, and will always be, a low IQ tradie. The tradie's pyramid of needs is capped off at food and sex. That can never satisfy someone like me since I need much more in the way of self-actualization and education.

No matter how big my paycheck, I'd be in a constant existential crisis knowing that I never did anything more meaningful than the troglodyte-tier low bar evolution passed milions of years ago. I need more education and more culture.

^^What an insufferable prick. Need I remind you, you have no value. These are words, this is your post:

Originally posted by Bodhy

I can speak from my own experience that my own work history is a desolate wasteland with specks of employment, literal specks, over the last decade. I've never had a job for longer than 2 weeks and I'm always fired or I need to quit becaue I'm so mentally overwhelmed. I usually just stop showing up and can't even manage to call the employer. I believe the executive dysfunction and-or the autistic burnout are the core contributors to unemployability. I know in my own case a week of full time work and I'm unable to sleep properly, cannot handle basic daily tasks, struggle with simple demands and am basically low-functioning. And without fail, the "two week mark" is the tipping point for when co workers and bosses realize something is wrong with me, I'm coming across as 'stupid and creepy' am too slow to complete tasks in a timely manner, and am basically too incompetent to participate in this seemingly most fundamental aspect of adult life.

[r32gojirra]

Any job that you absolutely have to commute to everyday is pretty much cucked one way or another.

Ideally you have a job that allows flexibility and location independence.

I thought a lot of officecucks got called back into the office recently

Maybe that contributes to the bitterness

[r32gojirra]

^^What an insufferable prick. Need I remind you, you have no value. These are words, this is your post:

Stop, stop… he’s already dead!!!!

[wisezeppelin]

I thought a lot of officecucks got called back into the office recently

Maybe that contributes to the bitterness

Most places have done a return to office now that the pandemic is over. For people who were pure office/computer wage-slaves the good times of remote work ended. This is especially true for companies with boomers in leadership.

[Anachron]

Stop, stop… he’s already dead!!!!

You can just tell, he never built anything in his while life.

[r32gojirra]

Most places have done a return to office now that the pandemic is over. For people who were pure office/computer wage-slaves the good times of remote work ended. This is especially true for companies with boomers in leadership.

We still have remote working so I guess that’s one thing I can have over the tradies lol

Gotta salvage something out of all this

[Anachron]

We still have remote working so I guess that’s one thing I can have over the tradies lol

Gotta salvage something out of all this

I thought you were a tradie though?

[r32gojirra]

I thought you were a tradie though?

lol I wish

There’s still time though

Could do a degree in construction management

I probably know a lot of it already

[stevebec]

I'm fortunate in that my job is mostly officecel with the occasional tradie stint. I make twice as much when I'm in tradie mode but I'm working 12+ hour days on a piece of steel out in the middle of the ocean away from my family. On the other hand, when I'm out here, I'm not working on 4 different projects for 3 different project managers who each think their project should be my top priority.

[Anachron]

lol I wish

There’s still time though

Could do a degree in construction management

I probably know a lot of it already

Construction management is not "tradie".

That's "tradie herder".

[DuracellBunny]

Construction management is not "tradie".

That's "tradie herder".

I prefer tradie whisperer. They understand them and speak their language.

[NitrogenWidget]

All of this. I spent the first 14 years of my career in the "tradie" side of my job. It was great. You're outside, working with men, actually accomplishing something together and going home physically tired and dirty. That's what a job should be.

I got promoted and I'm mostly in a office. I work less hours for more money, but I'm miserable. No purpose, no accomplishment, you're just there. The comparison to a tranny beginning his journey isn't that far fetched lol

i have a few tradie friends that moved out of the field and into the office and management and they are dreaming of getting back into the field even though the money is great.
it's mostly because the people just above them are victims of the peter principle and don't know wtf they are doing or they guy they replaced fuk'd everything up so badly it took months just to figure out what they did and untangle it to get it working like crap.
uphill battle.

the problem with managers is most of them are plug and play. they just move around managing people and letting everything else go to sht.

[NitrogenWidget]

Jesus. I had to read that several times to make sure it wasn't meant as a troll post.

"My 4 year liberal arts degree intitles me to make more money that a skilled tradesman, yet I am having a hard time finding a job that pays more than minimum wage while the tradie is making bank. This is not fair!"

not his fault the world is not conforming to his alternate reality.

[GhostofCricket]

^^What an insufferable prick. Need I remind you, you have no value. These are words, this is your post:

Academia sucks ass. They exploit grad students, and it amounts to slave wages. There's a toxic culture of "I endured it, so should you!" as well, mostly enforced by boomer professors and admins whose last real encounter with the jobs economy was 20 years ago. We train more PhDs than there are jobs available. The university system needs reform, but that is a topic for a different thread.

Still, the blatant hostility towards universities these days is even more toxic, spearheading an era of anti-intellectualism and outright stupidity. "We don't need no edumacation" is a pretty harmful position to take. The things you tradies build have to stand. And that requires someone to understand engineering. And someone has to design the software and algorithms the engineers use and improve their methods. And that requires all the CS, math, and physics people. Someone has to figure out the materials. Now you have materials science and chemistry. Gotta keep these people alive and understand how their work affects nature. Now you have medicine and biology. Tradies need the educated. The educated need the tradies. We are a society.

[DamianFeria]

Pull up to the job site in my raptor crew

[NitrogenWidget]

Lineman crew. It’s stupid money and fun as fuq. Work hard, help deliver a product that is in high demand and get compensated accordingly

the amount of money linemen make when an ice storm hits in NYS.....my buddies brother in law made enough in OT one yr to buy a fully restored 72 chevelle with a built motor.
you could eat off any surface of this car.
he paid with cash.

however, he was working round the clock with naps here and there in absolutely brutal conditions restoring power to peoples homes.
I could not do that.
not many can.
When you can do something like that you deserve the pay.

[GhostofCricket]

the amount of money linemen make when an ice storm hits in NYS.....my buddies brother in law made enough in OT one yr to buy a fully restored 72 chevelle with a built motor.
you could eat off any surface of this car.
he paid with cash.

however, he was working round the clock with naps here and there in absolutely brutal conditions restoring power to peoples homes.
I could not do that.
not many can.
When you can do something like that you deserve the pay.

I didn't even know lineman was a thing outside of football until today lmao. TY for edumacating me. I just called them electrical workers.

[NitrogenWidget]

I didn't even know lineman was a thing outside of football until today lmao. TY for edumacating me. I just called them electrical workers.

that's because you haven't left your house in 6yrs.

[Godfrd824]

Here's the issue with many tradies. They're scumbags.

My brother in law has a friend who is a plumber, he needed a valve in his house replaced. His friend told him it'd be $500 to replace it, "friend prices"., and that normally it would cost $2k. My brother in law called me to see if that sounded correct. I told him to go to Home Depot and call me when he gets there. I had him buy a new valve and some fittings and guided him on how to replace it. Less than $50 and half an hour for someone who had never done that before.

I have many stories like this. When I bought my first house one of our toilets had a small leak at the wax ring. My wife called a local company and they wanted $900 to fix the issue. I did it for like $15 and 20 minutes of time.

[GhostofCricket]

that's because you haven't left your house in 6yrs.

Well, I can explain to you in excruciating detail how CMOS work and lecture you for 2 years on electrodynamics without any review cold. So I'd say we are at least even. Also, I do leave my house and am doing very well tyvm.

[stevebec]

Pull up to the job site in my raptor crew

They fly me there in a helicopter.

the amount of money linemen make when an ice storm hits in NYS.....my buddies brother in law made enough in OT one yr to buy a fully restored 72 chevelle with a built motor.
you could eat off any surface of this car.
he paid with cash.

however, he was working round the clock with naps here and there in absolutely brutal conditions restoring power to peoples homes.
I could not do that.
not many can.
When you can do something like that you deserve the pay.

Friend's dad was a lineman and absolutely loved hurricanes. Not only for the overtime, but also because people are very appreciative when you turn their A/C back on. At the end of the first day after Alicia he said they had 10.5 cases of beer on the truck.

My grandfather started out as a lineman, but after the second pole fell on him (they actually climbed poles back then - no bucket trucks) his mom made him promise her he wouldn't climb any more poles and he transferred to an officecel job.

[stevebec]

Well, I can explain to you in excruciating detail how CMOS work and lecture you for 2 years on electrodynamics without any review cold. So I'd say we are at least even. Also, I do leave my house and am doing very well tyvm.

Nah, you're definitely the type to hook the power up backwards and burn up the protection diodes.

[GhostofCricket]

Nah, you're definitely the type to hook the power up backwards and burn up the protection diodes.

I've literally built a laser and worked on an electron microscope lol. I bet I could do your job better than you after a couple of days.

[Godfrd824]

I've literally built a laser and worked on an electron microscope lol. I bet I could do your job better than you after a couple of days.

You say that but you can't even manage to not get banned 3 times a week.