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    Originally Posted by LeftistGent View Post
    I asked you for a source that shows how the covid vaccine is "completely unnecessary" - this source does not prove that statement. Do you really think you can only die from covid if you're old, fat, or have an illness? Delta was killing young and otherwise healthy people, it's just fact.

    Funny you think I'm being "intentionally dishonest" by linking a high quality study in a reputable journal
    Nobody is fretting over this anymore except you few alarmist. Take a shot of whisky, smoke some pipe and calm the fug down. Your concern should lie more with being injected with something where some studies were to conclude 2024/2025. Just lol at Pfizer wanting 75 years to release all its data regarding this ONE vaccine. Jflol at all mainstream news sources insisting you get jabbed having their programming ‘brought to you by Pfizer.’ JFLOL at liberals doing a complete 180 and having absolute faith now in big pharma and that pharmaceutical science is bulletproof. J. F. L. O. L.
    Trump 2024, 2028, and 2032.

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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    This was obvious.

    Not worth debating anymore though.

    A vaccine that produces a mild version of the virus will produce milder adverse effects. The real virus will cause more damage than the mild version. The vaccine prompts an immune response that lessens the effects of the real virus. It's common sense.
    A vaccine that produces a mild version of the virus?

    Which one is this?

    Im interested in what you have to say lmfao
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    Originally Posted by TallTigerTwo View Post
    Nobody is fretting over this anymore except you few alarmist. Take a shot of whisky, smoke some pipe and calm the fug down. Your concern should lie more with being injected with something where some studies were to conclude 2024/2025. Just lol at Pfizer wanting 75 years to release all its data regarding this ONE vaccine. Jflol at all mainstream news sources insisting you get jabbed having their programming ‘brought to you by Pfizer.’ JFLOL at liberals doing a complete 180 and having absolute faith now in big pharma and that pharmaceutical science is bulletproof. J. F. L. O. L.
    lol, I would trust the shot of whisky more than anything coming out of a Phizer lab now...
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    Originally Posted by LeftistGent View Post
    The study strictly looks at people who had covid. By all means you can be a pure blood forever, but you best be praying you get lucky and don't end up with organ damage. Sadly a lot of purecels got rekt with long term damage during the delta wave, it didn't need to happen.
    Yea, and you better be praying your heart doesn't explode at the top of your next flight of stairs mudblood...
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    Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs

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    The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell's palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis. We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines questions them as positive contributors to public health.
    Time will tell how good or bad the vaccines are. One thing is clear. They should not be forced on children.
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    Originally Posted by ezmac31 View Post
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...iedwithcovid19

    Old data but you’re being intentionally dishonest anyway. Life expectancy of those who have died from Covid is higher than the national average in USA. Is that not telling to the Covid fearmonger crew?
    lmao, it is missing 1 year, come on dude that is soo wrong to try and pull a fast one with 1 year of missing data.

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    lmao, it is missing 1 year, come on dude that is soo wrong to try and pull a fast one with 1 year of missing data.

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    Does it taste like crow?
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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    Time will tell how good or bad the vaccines are. One thing is clear. They should not be forced on ANYONE.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    ???
    Did you know that we are discussing Hearts not Russia, Arizona recounts, or anything else that your mind wanders to?

    Stay focused on the topic.
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    This is good news. I plan now to get triple vaccinated for my safety, while I take several non-addictive oxycontin pills. Studies have told me the truth in both cases, my heart is made more powerful by vaccines and oxycontin pills are not addictive in the least.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Did you know that we are discussing Hearts not Russia, Arizona recounts, or anything else that your mind wanders to?

    Stay focused on the topic.
    The irony of him asking if it tastes like crow lol. What happened to all the stop the steal "proof" links in his sig? Fuking LMAO!
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    This is good news. I plan now to get triple vaccinated for my safety, while I take several non-addictive oxycontin pills. Studies have told me the truth in both cases, my heart is made more powerful by vaccines and oxycontin pills are not addictive in the least.
    So edgy. Using this retarded logic, you'll NEVER take any big pharma medication. I mean you wouldn't want to be a gigantic fuking hypocrite would you?
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    OP needs to get back in cagie, that's why wagies will always be wagies.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    So edgy. Using this retarded logic, you'll NEVER take any big pharma medication. I mean you wouldn't want to be a gigantic fuking hypocrite would you?
    Well, unlike you, I am a very healthy and fit individual. I don't need tons and tons of prescriptions for diabetes, leaking bladders, mental imbalances and the litany of disease and rot you have going, fat fuko.

    Now, as far as taking prescription drugs, anyone who assumes they are safe from one single study is a fool, as you are. You are an incredible fool, so much you called my correct thinking (that any single study alone and by itself is not indicative of any absolute truth), you called this "retarded logic" which is both very wrong and also insulting to your afflicted family members, and very likely an insult to you yourself as it's become more and more clear you have a very serious intellectual disability.

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Did you know that we are discussing Hearts not Russia, Arizona recounts, or anything else that your mind wanders to?

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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Well, unlike you, I am a very healthy and fit individual. I don't need tons and tons of prescriptions for diabetes, leaking bladders, mental imbalances and the litany of disease and rot you have going, fat fuko.

    Now, as far as taking prescription drugs, anyone who assumes they are safe from one single study is a fool, as you are. You are an incredible fool, so much you called my correct thinking (that any single study alone and by itself is not indicative of any absolute truth), you called this "retarded logic" which is both very wrong and also insulting to your afflicted family members, and very likely an insult to you yourself as it's become more and more clear you have a very serious intellectual disability.

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Cliffs: JUSA has no response other than personal attacks and concedes he's a giant fuking hypocrite.
    Apparently: fat, stupid, piss leaking bladder and fuking imbecile are not the end of the NYPat list. Also: Blind and can not fuking read.

    My response: Nobody should put full faith into ANY single study, particularly with Big Pharm and how easily many studies are manipulated. Pat, the piss-soaked buffoon, thinks this is 'retarded logic' which is ironic as that line of thinking calls into question his own intelligence.

    Unlike Pat, I am not a hypocrite. I only piss in toilets and not my in my pants and I am not a fat, gross and sickly pathetic shell of a human being.
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    Igor, Vlad, anything on hearts and medications?
    Please take you meds, your hallucinations are starting again.

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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    This was obvious.

    Not worth debating anymore though.

    A vaccine that produces a mild version of the virus will produce milder adverse effects. The real virus will cause more damage than the mild version. The vaccine prompts an immune response that lessens the effects of the real virus. It's common sense.
    Get your second booster shot yet?
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    So edgy. Using this retarded logic, you'll NEVER take any big pharma medication. I mean you wouldn't want to be a gigantic fuking hypocrite would you?
    Saw an advertisement at Jewel, telling people to get their 2nd booster shot if they're over 50 and immune compromised. Reminded me of you.

    Be honest, you got it didn't you?

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    What about people who got fuxinated and didn't get Covid, then had a heart attack or stroke?
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    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post
    What about people who got fuxinated and didn't get Covid, then had a heart attack or stroke?
    Was it
    1. not seeing a doc for 2 years
    2. pre existing conditions
    3. chit diet
    4. lack of exercise and fitness
    5. medicines or lack of medicines
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    7. a clot or plaque/cholesterol
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Was it
    1. not seeing a doc for 2 years
    2. pre existing conditions
    3. chit diet
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    Ah yes covid gives you heart problems. So let’s take an unapproved shot still in trials, with no long term data, that gives you heart problems, and doesn’t stop you from getting the virus that also gives you heart problems, from a company who has no liability. Surely that’s the answer.
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    Originally Posted by tunejunkie View Post
    Pro covid boi is back in action I see
    Your reading comprehension still sucks, i see.
    No one is pro CVD, that is false and an utter lie.
    That is a long list of things other than Covid/shots that can regularly cause heart issues, duh.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Your reading comprehension still sucks, i see.
    No one is pro CVD, that is false and an utter lie.
    That is a long list of things other than Covid/shots that can regularly cause heart issues, duh.
    But so can the covid shot….
































    And yes. You are pro-covid
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    Originally Posted by tunejunkie View Post
    Ah yes covid gives you heart problems. So let’s take an unapproved shot still in trials, with no long term data, that gives you heart problems, and doesn’t stop you from getting the virus that also gives you heart problems, from a company who has no liability. Surely that’s the answer.
    but but but, the heart problems from the covid vax are less than actual covid.
    which you can still get despite the shot.

    which doesn't make sense since most vax's i know of make you immune to things.
    small pox for example.
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    So hundreds of millions of people worldwide who got the Rona from what, October of 2019 to January of 2021, are now at risk of having a heart attack/stroke?

    Is that what OP.and the rest are claiming?
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    Originally Posted by tunejunkie View Post
    Ah yes covid gives you heart problems. So let’s take an unapproved shot still in trials, with no long term data, that gives you heart problems, and doesn’t stop you from getting the virus that also gives you heart problems, from a company who has no liability. Surely that’s the answer.
    It's literally fully approved, what are you talking about?

    You also say it gives people heart problems yet claim there is no long term data. So are the heart problems permanent? How do you know?
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