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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    Was gonna say this but I staple gunned mine down to refabricate my bench . I swear really bad so it gets slippery.

    Can't staple at a commercial gym but this stuff works wonders.
    It helps to replace the grip pad ever so often, so unless you want staple holes everywhere I wouldn't. Stuff does work wonders though.

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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    guess gunshots aren't that bad
    Today it felt horrible. Just trying to wrap my thumb around the pain from the tenderness was kicking in before I even set the grip.

    Originally Posted by registerjr View Post
    It helps to replace the grip pad ever so often, so unless you want staple holes everywhere I wouldn't. Stuff does work wonders though.
    It's on the under side of the bench. Plus this bench will get replaced eventually it was a cheap $150 flat one and I'll need to upgrade to an adjustable soon as the cheap Marcy one I have for inclines is nearing capacity.

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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    Today it felt horrible. Just trying to wrap my thumb around the pain from the tenderness was kicking in before I even set the grip.
    It gets better after 2-3 sessions. It also will depend what you do with it though. If you're pulling multiple sets/reps with it it'll always suck. I pull maxes hook grip but do most of my rep work with straps since the hook is always very strong.

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    Originally Posted by dang111 View Post
    It gets better after 2-3 sessions. It also will depend what you do with it though. If you're pulling multiple sets/reps with it it'll always suck. I pull maxes hook grip but do most of my rep work with straps since the hook is always very strong.
    I might do some assistance work with the hook to help it along. But won't be heavy repping with it. (Ouch).

    Figured maybe for my heavy sets do reps with straps and last rep hook grip. Not sure if I wanna use tape. Probably not

    I gotta definetly keep going. I tried the 560 sumo with the hook and it wasn't ready for that weight. So I switched to mixed grip. Made sure I was locked out and all. Hour later my bicep injury felt ughhhh. No reason to switch hands so I can pop that one eventually.

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    If your hook grip doesn't fail, then there is no reason why you shouldn't use straps for 95% of all your deadlifting.

    I've never found it to be one of those things that gets more comfortable the more I do it.

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    If your hook grip doesn't fail, then there is no reason why you shouldn't use straps for 95% of all your deadlifting.

    I've never found it to be one of those things that gets more comfortable the more I do it.
    this. I use straps for every workout except my last heavy day before a meet. Never had a single issue on meet day. Other powerlifters will give you **** for wearing them butt fuk em.

    I'd say if you want to practice it only do it on singles but I'm also a pussybitch

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    If your hook grip doesn't fail, then there is no reason why you shouldn't use straps for 95% of all your deadlifting.

    I've never found it to be one of those things that gets more comfortable the more I do it.
    I thought it would have been the opposite for the starting out phase. Damn.

    Oh well. Got til April til build it up.

    Originally Posted by brotein1992 View Post
    this. I use straps for every workout except my last heavy day before a meet. Never had a single issue on meet day. Other powerlifters will give you **** for wearing them butt fuk em.

    I'd say if you want to practice it only do it on singles but I'm also a pussybitch
    It's partially pussybitch. Partly adapting to the pain/building up some calesus. Definetly don't have issues with straps though.

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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    The new outlaw knee wrap colors look pretty cool. Did someone mention they're not really good wraps?
    The "old" version is very common -- a lot of lifters were using them at last weekend's LA Fit Expo competition (sponsored or not).

    Doesn't isaku use them?
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    Originally Posted by FunkymonkAW View Post
    The "old" version is very common -- a lot of lifters were using them at last weekend's LA Fit Expo competition (sponsored or not).

    Doesn't isaku use them?
    I think the old and new are exactly the same just different color patterns.
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    Originally Posted by FunkymonkAW View Post
    The "old" version is very common -- a lot of lifters were using them at last weekend's LA Fit Expo competition (sponsored or not).

    Doesn't isaku use them?
    I use outlaws. I like them.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    I use outlaws. I like them.
    Would you say they're on the stiff or stretchy side? Or in between?
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    Would you say they're on the stiff or stretchy side? Or in between?
    stretchy, you can lock them down tight, but they stretch a lot. Good rebound, not so much stopping power. Good for a medium-to-fast squatters
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    stretchy, you can lock them down tight, but they stretch a lot. Good rebound, not so much stopping power. Good for a medium-to-fast squatters
    Sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks.
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    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
    I wouldn't have him as a friend for one. That is low.

    I have no issues with what people do with their bodies but being deceitful like that is bull****.

    I would be cutting ties with him personally. And don't get it twisted. I have NO problems with folks like Leeman cause he knows what he does and he's honest.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
    I'd probably just straight up ask him y u do dis fam.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
    Meh. If he isn't breaking or taking records why does it matter? And if he receives a ban, he receives a ban. I'm not competitive but I don't care if I win or lose I'm there to have fun and watch people lift and hit PRs.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
    I would tell him I didn't agree with it. And if it's to place higher I'd bust his balls a bit, tell him to man up. If it's a location thing maybe I'd offer to help find or take him to/be handler at a USPA meet somewhere. In any case I'd feel a little bit dirty if I didn't at least make my feelings known about it.
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    Originally Posted by NeverEnough89 View Post
    Meh. If he isn't breaking or taking records why does it matter? And if he receives a ban, he receives a ban. I'm not competitive but I don't care if I win or lose I'm there to have fun and watch people lift and hit PRs.
    I'm kind of in this boat. I would tell them its risky and thats it not really fair and that I wouldn't do it. I would also recommend that they don't compete in that fed. I wouldn't compete against this person in a tested fed, but I wouldn't disown them as a friend.

    I could be biased though. In the meets I've competed in (RPS) and at my local gym (LA Fitness), there is a significant number of people who would fail a drug test. So, in a way I'm a little desensitized to it. Its almost like its expected, that is, Someone is going to do it.
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    Hypothetical, moral question for you guys.

    You have a friend that has signed up for and is planning on competing in a USAPL meet in Feb. Probably won't be setting any records but he's no slouch either.

    The problem is that you know, for a fact, this guy cannot pass a drug test

    How would you react to something like that?

    Personally, I think this is the lowest of the low but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
    I'd tell the guy to quit being a b!tch and compete where he belongs. If he doesn't listen I'd get in touch with the meet director and tell him to have a drug test ready.

    Originally Posted by NeverEnough89 View Post
    Meh. If he isn't breaking or taking records why does it matter? And if he receives a ban, he receives a ban. I'm not competitive but I don't care if I win or lose I'm there to have fun and watch people lift and hit PRs.
    It matters because he'd be competing against people who aren't cheating. Maybe you don't care if you win or lose but some people do. It's a competitive sport.

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    It matters because he'd be competing against people who aren't cheating. Maybe you don't care if you win or lose but some people do. It's a competitive sport.
    This.

    I would say most people care how they do in competition, especially considering all the time and effort one puts into training for this sport.

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    Originally Posted by dang111 View Post
    I'd tell the guy to quit being a b!tch and compete where he belongs. If he doesn't listen I'd get in touch with the meet director and tell him to have a drug test ready.

    It matters because he'd be competing against people who aren't cheating. Maybe you don't care if you win or lose but some people do. It's a competitive sport.
    This is the way I'm leaning honestly. My only issue is that it doesn't effect me at all. I would get drug tested if I walked in the door of a USAPL meet so its no competition for me. Its just a really chitty thing to do and ruins the meet for the other competitors that are playing the game fairly.

    There are plenty of meets in this area. We live 2 hours from DC and Philly
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    This is the way I'm leaning honestly. My only issue is that it doesn't effect me at all. I would get drug tested if I walked in the door of a USAPL meet so its no competition for me. Its just a really chitty thing to do and ruins the meet for the other competitors that are playing the game fairly.

    There are plenty of meets in this area. We live 2 hours from DC and Philly
    Does he know that the USAPL drug tests? Or did he just pick a meet at random?

    I'd probably just tell him that's kinda a lame thing to do and go compete USPA or something. If not well it'd be a good opportunity for the drug test money to actually be put to use lol.
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    Originally Posted by dang111 View Post
    .

    It matters because he'd be competing against people who aren't cheating. Maybe you don't care if you win or lose but some people do. It's a competitive sport.
    understood on that point, it comes to the point where I think most should just compete against them selves I guess. Mostly those that are only doing local meets, like my self. It's just for fun to me.
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    stretchy, you can lock them down tight, but they stretch a lot. Good rebound, not so much stopping power. Good for a medium-to-fast squatters
    Very stretchy, very thick and spongey. They don't lock up on the way down, and don't cut depth. Decent pop. Super comfortable and easy to wrap and tuck/tie off. I cranked them down as tight as I could by myself and was able to go to full depth just with bodyweight.

    I don't think they'd be very durable under heavy usage if you crank the hell out of them, they scrunch up and deform after wrapping.

    Personally I didnt like them, so i sold mine to a training partner who's just starting out in wraps and he loves them.

    For what it's worth, the best wraps out there right now are coming from Pioneer Fitness/general leathercraft who also manufactures for APT. The durability and quality of the wraps are just excellent. Matt hadden is awesome to deal with, everything is USA materials/made, and they can make you custom wraps/belts. Im breaking in a pair of their new phantom wraps right now and they seem promising.

    (other than the PBG deathrow, which is the strongest wrap ive seen on the market, but are basically unobtainium and are a bitch to wrap properly)
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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    Does he know that the USAPL drug tests? Or did he just pick a meet at random?

    I'd probably just tell him that's kinda a lame thing to do and go compete USPA or something. If not well it'd be a good opportunity for the drug test money to actually be put to use lol.
    He knows. This dude is not new to the sport at all. He's damn near 50 years old

    I plan on saying something to him. Beyond that, I'll probably keep my mouth shut about it
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    For what it's worth, the best wraps out there right now are coming from Pioneer Fitness/general leathercraft who also manufactures for APT. The durability and quality of the wraps are just excellent. Matt hadden is awesome to deal with, everything is USA materials/made, and they can make you custom wraps/belts. Im breaking in a pair of their new phantom wraps right now and they seem promising.
    they're the ones that made the original strangulators, right?

    I just found a pair of my old strangs...and I might could use them next time out.

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