Misc Firearms Crew XLVIII: If guns kill people then all mine must be defective

[GingerBrah84]

Primary Arms micro dot on the way for my AR. Cause some of us are too broke for an aimpoint micro. Killer reviews for its pricepoint and it will co-witness fine with the troy flip-ups already on there.

Nobody is gonna touch this? Farley pls respond

You bought that over a SCAR? Son....

It's funny because they are both ugly

I'll be looking for it on the EE next week.

ayyyyy lmao. Too much real life

What does it do that a 600$ upper doesn't

Look worse











Parkway Drive isn't that good either *******s

[CWeber21]

It's funny because they are both ugly

One could even say the SCAR is......uggly. Jk its aesthetic AF

[pinhooker]

Because a free float heavy barrel is going to be more accurate than some kind of non free float barel, like whats on a scar. The reasons have to do with vibrations propagating through the rifle when a round is discharged. Free float will always be more accurate.

Really? I didnt know that

Learn something new every day

[jarryd2018]

Really? I didnt know that

Learn something new every day

I'm certain this is sarcasm.

And I thought it had more to do with flex when moving the barrel or having tension on the handguard.

[HILMAN76]

Just bought a kel tec pf9 (sorry hilman, I couldn't wait).
It's a bruiser but I enjoyed shooting it. Ran flawlessly with Remington 115g htp and perfecta 115g.

Enjoy it! Take it apart and clean it good, check the firing pin chamber for debris, mine and a lot of folks I read have crud in them from the factory. I broke my pistol in with Winchester White box, ran a chit load with no problems. Keltec will replace any part for free with one phone call if you end up having an issue.


EDIT: I just re-read, you shot it already. Still check the firing pin chamber for goodies.

[Swamp Dog]

Enjoy it! Take it apart and clean it good, check the firing pin chamber for debris, mine and a lot of folks I read have crud in them from the factory. I broke my pistol in with Winchester White box, ran a chit load with no problems. Keltec will replace any part for free with one phone call if you end up having an issue.


EDIT: I just re-read, you shot it already. Still check the firing pin chamber for goodies.

Thanks, I didn't think of that. I did have enough sense to clean it really well though. It is soaking in atf right now.
Just as a reference I paid $200 for it. Called around this morning at various shops and this one said somebody had just brought this one in. I think it's an older one because don't the newer ones have a metal mag release button?

[jarryd2018]

Enjoy it! Take it apart and clean it good, check the firing pin chamber for debris, mine and a lot of folks I read have crud in them from the factory. I broke my pistol in with Winchester White box, ran a chit load with no problems. Keltec will replace any part for free with one phone call if you end up having an issue.


EDIT: I just re-read, you shot it already. Still check the firing pin chamber for goodies.

I had that issue when I had a Taurus. I finally got that thing firing right, then I traded it off. Everyone wins.

[Swamp Dog]

Just did research on the sn. Apparently it was built in '08. If I had known that I probably would not have gotten it. Oh well, live and learn.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
After reading about issues people have had with theirs I was pleasantly surprised that it shot as well as it did.

The LC9 is easier to shoot by far.

[HILMAN76]

Thanks, I didn't think of that. I did have enough sense to clean it really well though. It is soaking in atf right now.
Just as a reference I paid $200 for it. Called around this morning at various shops and this one said somebody had just brought this one in. I think it's an older one because don't the newer ones have a metal mag release button?

I'll look at mine when I get home tonight, I bought mine new about 5 or 6 years ago. I think you got a good deal since it ran without any hiccups. Google "KelTec fluff N' buff", also check out the Keltec forum.

I had that issue when I had a Taurus. I finally got that thing firing right, then I traded it off. Everyone wins.

It seems with the cheaper guns chit like this happens often, they charge less for the gun at the cost of QC. The dirty firing pin chamber was my only issue with my PF9, I'm selling it to my Bro in law cause my hands are too big for sub-compacts. I'm sticking to compact and full size from now on.

[jarryd2018]

Just did research on the sn. Apparently it was built in '08. If I had known that I probably would not have gotten it. Oh well, live and learn.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
After reading about issues people have had with theirs I was pleasantly surprised that it shot as well as it did.

The LC9 is easier to shoot by far.

For the price, I wouldn't complain. But, I'd look into a better pistol for defense. Comparable would be a shield or g43. That's just me.

[Swamp Dog]

For the price, I wouldn't complain. But, I'd look into a better pistol for defense. Comparable would be a shield or g43. That's just me.

I'm familiar. I have 2 LC9 pros that I believe can match any of the higher tiered guns out there.

[jarryd2018]

I'm familiar. I have 2 LC9 pros that I believe can match any of the higher tiered guns out there.

Not a fan of the lc9 but if that's what makes you happy.

[SpeedCheeser]

Whatever I get first I'm going to complete it, meaning buying the optic, mags, accessories, etc. with the rifle at the same time. I won't be buying a .308 rifle for quite a while though, have a lot of other chit I need to buy first.

This could of course change with the political climate. I don't think they'll try banning ice axes and sub zero sleeping bags anytime soon lol

Think of the children, you heartless monster!

[OrificeSpunk]

Does anyone ITT have a g43 yet? Curious to hear how it's been holding up. I've seen them popping up locally

[YourGunShowTix]

When your friends IRL start texting you in miscspeak.

[Swamp Dog]

Not a fan of the lc9 but if that's what makes you happy.

Have you looked at the pro? It's not your grandfather's lc9.

[4ea]

Really? I didnt know that

Learn something new every day

Science ftw mang

I'm certain this is sarcasm.

And I thought it had more to do with flex when moving the barrel or having tension on the handguard.

Flex is related to the barrel thickness and material properties. The thicjer and stiffer a barrel is, the less it will deform when subjected to the shockwave a discharged round produces.

The idea of vibrations is slightly more complicated. In short, the vibration a barrel undergoes will be an addition of all constituent components on the rifle. Youl always have the natural frequency of the barrel itself, which is ideally all you want. But adding things like a gas block, or a front aight post like on an ak will complicate the vibrations, which will impact the movement of the tip of the barrel.


Btw, the process of adding waves together is called fourier superposition. Fourier is pronounced 4ea.

[pinhooker]

Flex is related to the barrel thickness and material properties. The thicjer and stiffer a barrel is, the less it will deform when subjected to the shockwave a discharged round produces.

The idea of vibrations is slightly more complicated. In short, the vibration a barrel undergoes will be an addition of all constituent components on the rifle. Youl always have the natural frequency of the barrel itself, which is ideally all you want. But adding things like a gas block, or a front aight post like on an ak will complicate the vibrations, which will impact the movement of the tip of the barrel.

So much knowledge today

Now Im finally understanding why that 110 carries that price tag. Barrel harmonics that can't be beat

[hazard52003]

Anyone know anything about Petronov Arms? (doing some research now)

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0

Potentially interested in this AK since I live in the chit state of NJ

[jarryd2018]

Have you looked at the pro? It's not your grandfather's lc9.

I've had my fill of small 9mm pistols. I want something with a full frame now.

[OrificeSpunk]

I've had my fill of small 9mm pistols. I want something with a full frame now.

Glock 17/34 and never look back!!!

Flex is related to the barrel thickness and material properties. The thicjer and stiffer a barrel is, the less it will deform when subjected to the shockwave a discharged round produces.

The idea of vibrations is slightly more complicated. In short, the vibration a barrel undergoes will be an addition of all constituent components on the rifle. Youl always have the natural frequency of the barrel itself, which is ideally all you want. But adding things like a gas block, or a front aight post like on an ak will complicate the vibrations, which will impact the movement of the tip of the barrel.


Btw, the process of adding waves together is called fourier superposition. Fourier is pronounced 4ea.

So you are saying a thin profile barrel is less accurate than a heavy barrel assuming both are FF and not rapid firing?

[Swamp Dog]

I've had my fill of small 9mm pistols. I want something with a full frame now.

I can tell we're gonna be friends

[4ea]

So much knowledge today

Now Im finally understanding why that 110 carries that price tag. Barrel harmonics that can't be beat

Yea, theyre very high end, and aesthetic. Ive been feeling very drawn to this platform lately



Im gonna need a plain stock 20" a2 and a 16" carbine version too doe.

So you are saying a thin profile barrel is less accurate than a heavy barrel assuming both are FF and not rapid firing?

Holding everything constant like barrel length, calber and projectile type, a thicker barrel will absolutely be more accurate

I've had my fill of small 9mm pistols. I want something with a full frame now.

Glock 20/21 time?

[OrificeSpunk]

Holding everything constant like barrel length, calber and projectile type, a thicker barrel will absolutely be more accurate

I also learn something new every day in here.

[GingerBrah84]

Does anyone ITT have a g43 yet? Curious to hear how it's been holding up. I've seen them popping up locally

Jeff's got one.

So much knowledge today

Now Im finally understanding why that 110 carries that price tag. Barrel harmonics that can't be beat

Noveske or die amirite





.223 wylde on the moon doe

[pinhooker]

Yea, theyre very high end, and aesthetic. Ive been feeling very drawn to this platform lately

What do you feel separates it from other 308 ARs?

[4ea]

What do you feel separates it from other 308 ARs?

To be honest, i dont know much about the platform, other than i want multiple configurations of it.

But its probably worth noting, it depends what you plan on doing with the rifle. A long heavy barrel is great for bench rested long distance shooting, but its more difficult to accurately hit something while standing with a rifle thats very front heavy. Thats where a shorter, lighter rifle would be better

[pinhooker]

But its probably worth noting, it depends what you plan on doing with the rifle. A long heavy barrel is great for bench rested long distance shooting, but its more difficult to accurately hit something while standing with a rifle thats very front heavy. Thats where a shorter, lighter rifle would be better

It's probably worth nothing that that is completely false. If you find this to be the case you have major issues with your position

And are we going to pretend that one can't build a 308 AR with a krieger barrel and geissele in it for less than half whatever the sr25 goes for? And if you try to tell me the kac trigger and barrel are better than a geissele and krieger I'm going to recommend getting an MRI on your brain

[4ea]

Like i said pin, i know practically nothing about these different components on an AR10. Il have to do some research before id be able to give any insight about which brand is better for the price.

And im sure stance plays a roll, but its fukn difficult to even hold a very front heavy rifle on target while standing. I personally am much better with a 16" carbine ar than i an with my 22" saiga 308, even though the saiga is more accurate bench rested.

[Brandon211]

Fresh out of 10 day jail