'NoStruggle', No Progress Log

[XCRunner9]

Sorry I've missed a couple of days with my log guys, I've been really busy lately. I'll be logging tomorrow. I've realized that I may have been in too large a surplus which contributed to me becoming 150lbs, I won't count but I'll be watching closely.

New Years Day dinner tomorrow, gonna go light. Will post pics of the plates tomorrow.

That's exactly what your Eating Disorder wants you to do. It's basically just another form of restricting yourself and telling yourself that you won't count somehow makes you feel like it's okay.

Enjoy your New Years Day Dinner and eat what you want. Don't let your Eating Disorder make you do something you actually don't want to do.

[ErikTheElectric]

Sorry I've missed a couple of days with my log guys, I've been really busy lately. I'll be logging tomorrow. I've realized that I may have been in too large a surplus which contributed to me becoming 150lbs, I won't count but I'll be watching closely.

New Years Day dinner tomorrow, gonna go light. Will post pics of the plates tomorrow.

You're not 150lbs.

You're in denial and need to realize that you WILL NOT GET FAT OVERNIGHT.

You need to seek help.

[nostruggle]

First plates! New Year dinner. How am I doing guys?

[nostruggle]

Didn't anything today so I'd have room

[XCRunner9]

Not enough food.

Get Help. In the position you're in, reading your last post is very concerning.

[SuperHippo]

Not enough food.

Get Help. In the position you're in, reading your last post is very concerning.

this, does a normal person starve themself all day, just so they can enjoy a meal? No, they don't
you NEED HELP

[sonnydfrizzy]

I agree man. Professional help is needed in your situation. Do normal people fast all day and have food on their mind 24/7? Are you truly satisfied with your current state or do you wish you could change??

[nostruggle]

I agree man. Professional help is needed in your situation. Do normal people fast all day and have food on their mind 24/7? Are you truly satisfied with your current state or do you wish you could change??

I honestly read about it in one of the links you posted in a thread, I think it's called intermittent fasting or something. I thought it would be smart way to not go too crazy today.

[determined4000]

I thought it would be smart way to maintain my eating disorder

fixed

[XCRunner9]

I honestly read about it in one of the links you posted in a thread, I think it's called intermittent fasting or something. I thought it would be smart way to not go too crazy today.

The fact that you fear about "going crazy" implies you're letting your Eating Disorder consume you. "Going crazy" is one way to make it seem like it's okay when in reality, you're fearing that you might binge or eat uncontrollably which is something a normal person wouldn't fear if you fueled yourself properly over a long period of time which you have not. I would definitely not do Intermittent Fasting. All it's going to do is make it seem okay to eat more later on in the day or just a way to restrict your intake even further. Don't do it and just eat properly.

Also, please stay off this site. I would only go on this site just to post your log or better yet, just don't go on at all. They're definitely reinforcing your E.D. thoughts.

[determined4000]

he fasts to save cals, then never eats them later anyways
thus he just ends up eating insufficiently for the entirety of the day

[AFC96]

Intermittent fasting is not for someone who is your in your position IMO.

It will probably make it worst.

Its either you can't wait for food and binge, or you fast and do not get the calories you need.

Thats just my opinion though.

[sonnydfrizzy]

Are you sh**ing me?? You read a thread I made in how to overcome disordered eating by NOT practicing intermittent fasting and you decide to do it?

You must be trolling.

[determined4000]

at least he is honest

[nostruggle]

he fasts to save cals, then never eats them later anyways
thus he just ends up eating insufficiently for the entirety of the day

Trust me, I ate A LOT. Will post more pics, I was so full. I'm literally never that full, ever lol.

Are you sh**ing me?? You read a thread I made in how to overcome disordered eating by NOT practicing intermittent fasting and you decide to do it?

You must be trolling.

No, it was in your thread about Thanksgiving.

[determined4000]

Trust me, I ate A LOT.

i dont care about pics
I care about scale weight

you keep saying you eat a lot yet remain underweight

[ErikTheElectric]

Not sure if you blatantly ignored or just disregarded my post.


I'm out, hopefully you get help eventually.

[XCRunner9]

Trust me, I ate A LOT. Will post more pics, I was so full. I'm literally never that full, ever lol.

Okay, most normal people would have actually eaten during the day and ate as much as they wanted without worrying instead of just starving themselves just to get a meal where they can eat until they're uncomfortably full. We don't even care if you felt full, your attitudes tells us a different story, and bottom line is you're still going to eat small portions and say you eat a lot when we're constantly telling you you're not.

[EmperorRyker]

this, does a normal person starve themself all day, just so they can enjoy a meal? No, they don't
you NEED HELP

You're right, they don't starve themselves all day, but normal people or those that don't give a **** about macros also limit their intake prior to or after a big dinner, holiday feasts or whatever. He shouldn't have starved himself, because he definitely has issues with food and his body image, but his BMI, which is what doctors go by, is well withing the normal range. So it seems that most of the people posting here are just giving him crap because it makes them, you included, feel better about themselves. But, hey, it looks like if you have or had an ED, you also inherit the wisdom of the world, so keep calm and carry on with the hypocrisy, belittling and/or getting a high from convincing yourselves you are doing this to help him and not to feel better yourselves.

[nostruggle]

Not sure if you blatantly ignored or just disregarded my post.


I'm out, hopefully you get help eventually.

Dude I didn't, I took your advice and stopped worrying about the scale. I was going to go light at the dinner today but I didn't, I ate what I wanted moved on.

Okay, most normal people would have actually eaten during the day and ate as much as they wanted without worrying instead of just starving themselves just to get a meal where they can eat until they're uncomfortably full. We don't even care if you felt full, your attitudes tells us a different story, and bottom line is you're still going to eat small portions and say you eat a lot when we're constantly telling you you're not.

I genuinely didn't know this was terrible thing, I just thought it was a good way of keeping my intake reasonable. I didn't binge and eat for the sake of stuffing food down my throat. I ate because I wanted it. I honestly thought it was perfectly okay to just sleep in a bit, get up, hang out for an hour or 2, and eat dinner when the guests arrived. Also my portion sizes have increased, I'm a different guy since the day I started the log up until now. Yeah, I struggle with little things. But the fact of the matter is, I'm stronger, and I eat more now. I definitely do get psyched out sometimes, but I believe it's a process and I am making strides.

i dont care about pics
I care about scale weight

you keep saying you eat a lot yet remain underweight

I'm gaining dude, seriously.

[determined4000]

You're right, they don't starve themselves all day, but normal people or those that don't give a **** about macros also limit their intake prior to or after a big dinner, holiday feasts or whatever. He shouldn't have starved himself, because he definitely has issues with food and his body image, but his BMI, which is what doctors go by, is well withing the normal range. So it seems that most of the people posting here are just giving him crap because it makes them, you included, feel better about themselves. But, hey, it looks like if you have or had an ED, you also inherit the wisdom of the world, so keep calm and carry on with the hypocrisy, belittling and/or getting a high from convincing yourselves you are doing this to help him and not to feel better yourselves.

so let me get this straight
He has an Eating Disorder, acknowledges disordered eating and being consumed by t, yet we are supposed to tell him that engaging in habits that fuel EDs is destructive to him getting healthier (talking about mindset here as well).

In your opinion we should allow him to continue to be consumed with it because an outdated health measure says his weight is in a stable range.

Why do I think that you may be saying this because you have identical stats as him?

[ErikTheElectric]

^ not worth it D. He simply argues to be argumentative.
Just a waste of time.

[EmperorRyker]

so let me get this straight
He has an Eating Disorder, acknowledges disordered eating and being consumed by t, yet we are supposed to tell him that engaging in habits that fuel EDs is destructive to him getting healthier (talking about mindset here as well).

In your opinion we should allow him to continue to be consumed with it because an outdated health measure says his weight is in a stable range.

He acknowledges he has problems and he said he's working on it. He's not eating much or enough and he has issues with eating and his jawline. But that doesn't justify this thread devolving into a 7-page cluster**** and cyber-bullying. He said he's trying to work on it. So let him.

As for BMI, I don't put credence in it, either. But his weight is definitely not unhealthy by "normal people" standards. It is, in fact, "normal people" who still go by it, having devised it themselves. But certainly you have no better standard in terms of what underweight is. If he goes to any doctor and gets his blood checked, everything coming out normal, no one will say he needs help. That is, unless they look into his relationship with food. But just gaining weight isn't going to solve that. He needs to figure out how to change his mentality. Otherwise he'll just end up being stuck with the same obsessive thoughts, but added to that will be that he will be unhappy with how he looks. Talk about a double whammy.

Why do I think that you may be saying this because you have identical stats as him?

It's funny you of all people would throw stats in someone's face. As I said before, at least I'm not a hypocrite about it, and am not afraid of posting them, my calorie intake or the weights that I can lift. I also don't pretend to know what's best for others.

Anyways, I'll leave it at this. You guys can do whatever you want, it's just that I've noticed a recurring theme in all of these threads, so I figured I'd comment on it.

[determined4000]

^ not worth it D. He simply argues to be argumentative.
Just a waste of time.

yup

[determined4000]

@emperor
so what would your aadvice be for him?
Nothing. Pat him on the back for fasting all day?
Not mention it at all?

How do you think we should help him? Or do you think he doesn't need it?

[nostruggle]

@Everyone

I appreciate Emperor, I completely get what you're saying but I was severely underweight. And whether the way they did it was right, dudes like Erik keep motivating ever since I posted on the forms when I was like 138lbs. I was pretty sick physically and mentally, and I thought I was perfectly fine. I'm improving, but again it's a process. It's tough, I want to change. Because living the way I was before was miserable, but I'm improving.

I appreciate all you dudes and I appreciate ya taking your time out to pass on wisdom, whether it's conveyed harshly or not. If I didn't change the way I was, I'd probably be like 130lbs still trying to get rid of my belly fat. At one point my Myfitnesspal goal was set to 120lbs, I had no clue that it was so unhealthy.

[determined4000]

^^^see he is very honest

[sonnydfrizzy]

You're right, they don't starve themselves all day, but normal people or those that don't give a **** about macros also limit their intake prior to or after a big dinner, holiday feasts or whatever. He shouldn't have starved himself, because he definitely has issues with food and his body image, but his BMI, which is what doctors go by, is well withing the normal range. So it seems that most of the people posting here are just giving him crap because it makes them, you included, feel better about themselves. But, hey, it looks like if you have or had an ED, you also inherit the wisdom of the world, so keep calm and carry on with the hypocrisy, belittling and/or getting a high from convincing yourselves you are doing this to help him and not to feel better yourselves.

He acknowledges he has problems and he said he's working on it. He's not eating much or enough and he has issues with eating and his jawline. But that doesn't justify this thread devolving into a 7-page cluster**** and cyber-bullying. He said he's trying to work on it. So let him.

As for BMI, I don't put credence in it, either. But his weight is definitely not unhealthy by "normal people" standards. It is, in fact, "normal people" who still go by it, having devised it themselves. But certainly you have no better standard in terms of what underweight is. If he goes to any doctor and gets his blood checked, everything coming out normal, no one will say he needs help. That is, unless they look into his relationship with food. But just gaining weight isn't going to solve that. He needs to figure out how to change his mentality. Otherwise he'll just end up being stuck with the same obsessive thoughts, but added to that will be that he will be unhappy with how he looks. Talk about a double whammy.

It's funny you of all people would throw stats in someone's face. As I said before, at least I'm not a hypocrite about it, and am not afraid of posting them, my calorie intake or the weights that I can lift. I also don't pretend to know what's best for others.

Anyways, I'll leave it at this. You guys can do whatever you want, it's just that I've noticed a recurring theme in all of these threads, so I figured I'd comment on it.

Hahahaha dis nekka srs??
I think EmporerRyker is just hangry.

You need to calm down dude and ask yourself why you feel so hostile towards our posts. You say you want him healthy; is mental health not part of one's overall health? He admits he has food issues, so we are helping him not belittling him.
Fine want us to do it your way??

"Hey nostruggle, you are right you ARE getting fat and you SHOULD fast until dinner. In fact, I think you should start cutting now since you are ballooning up. But it's okay man, seems like everything is fine with you! Keep going buddy we believe in you."

Guess what EmporerRyker... That's not how the world works. Want to achieve something? Go out and get it. Don't fukk around and expect it to be handed to you. Do not make stupid posts like this.

He acknowledges he has issues, so we are helping him defeat his demons. Don't like it? GTFO. And if you are all pissed because you too are in denial of your food and exercise issues, then I hope you seek help as well.

[nostruggle]

Breakfast today: Quiche w/ ham and cheese on it, half a serving of cereal (it got soggy so I left half it, was supposed to be a full serving), and a breakfast bar 140cals

Also had a little piece of cake lol, like 15g

[XCRunner9]

Breakfast today: Quiche w/ ham and cheese on it, half a serving of cereal (it got soggy so I left half it, was supposed to be a full serving), and a breakfast bar 140cals

Also had a little piece of cake lol, like 15g

You're still eating small portions.

What's with half a serving of cereal? It getting soggy isn't an excuse as you could have simply poured more cereal.

Stop tracking. You're literally looking at the amount of calories in a breakfast bar, weighed your slice of cake, and also measured how much cereal you got. I seriously hope you're not weighing your cereal either. You think most people would weigh their slice of cake to see how many calories there are? Most people w/o an E.D. wouldn't do that and just take how much they want without worrying about getting fat.