Sumo DL check

[jax811]

Hey all!

Haven't pulled Sumo in a while and would like a 2nd set of eyes to check my form. 135 feels fine and I don't feel like my back is rounding. However, once I put 165 on the bar, I lose all leg drive and end up pulling/finishing with my lower back. Unfortunately my phone crapped out so I wasn't able to record that. This set was after I had finished supersets of leg press/extensions so I was a bit fatigued to say the least. Thanks for watching!

[Hass008]

hmm.

can't see dat butt.
I mean back. (srs)

Can't even make out what type of grip you're using.
Can tell you have a 45 degree angle on your foot, but that's about it.
Need a better video

Valsalva? I hope you're doing it. Can't tell.
Helps. Esp with belt.
Why no pause at the top? Gotta pause and mire yourself in the mirror after each rep. (srs)

also. 811? Interesting choice.
I was born on 8/11. You must be too.
Or you were born on August 1911...
Hmm, 811 more likely.

[jax811]

hmm.

can't see dat butt.
I mean back. (srs)

Can't even make out what type of grip you're using.
Can tell you have a 45 degree angle on your foot, but that's about it.
Need a better video

Valsalva? I hope you're doing it. Can't tell.
Helps. Esp with belt.
Why no pause at the top? Gotta pause and mire yourself in the mirror after each rep. (srs)

also. 811? Interesting choice.
I was born on 8/11. You must be too.
Or you were born on August 1911...
Hmm, 811 more likely.

I'll get a better angle next time. My phone is cracked so I can barely see the vid itself, haha.

Thanks for watching. Valsalva is taking in a breath and bracing, right? Yes, I take 2 breaths; one to fill my lungs and the other my abdominal walls. But at 165 I can physically feel my lower back pulling/rounding.

I use mixed grip after 135. It looks like a pause at the top to me. I usually pause at the top for a few seconds on my very last rep. :-)

Ha. 8/12 here!

[doctor220]

Sounds like you are getting pulled out of position and too far forward with the additional weight, thus causing rounding(so you can pull the weight off the floor) and the lockout problems. The 135 looked good.

[jax811]

Sounds like you are getting pulled out of position and too far forward with the additional weight, thus causing rounding(so you can pull the weight off the floor) and the lockout problems. The 135 looked good.

Interesting. What, in your opinion, would help pull me into position when going heavier?

[baxtej44]

pull yourself down to the bar. think of pulling back instead of standing up with the weight.

i like to get my feet set, then keeping my hips high reach down and set my grip. then i take my breath, and start to pull myself to the bar and bring my hips into position. at this point low weights will pop off the ground just based on leverages. and if suddenly the bar wasn't there, i would fall backwards because i am trying to pull back instead of just up

but if you can do 135 for that many reps with what you feel to be good form, 165 should be nothing... i think it's mental honestly. or you're not actually rounding as much as you think you are.

[jax811]

pull yourself down to the bar. think of pulling back instead of standing up with the weight.

i like to get my feet set, then keeping my hips high reach down and set my grip. then i take my breath, and start to pull myself to the bar and bring my hips into position. at this point low weights will pop off the ground just based on leverages. and if suddenly the bar wasn't there, i would fall backwards because i am trying to pull back instead of just up

but if you can do 135 for that many reps with what you feel to be good form, 165 should be nothing... i think it's mental honestly. or you're not actually rounding as much as you think you are.

Now that I think about it, I didn't start by hinging at the hips, but rather, tried to get my knees into position first. Could that be why my kneees are so sore after pulling sumo? Feels like I kicked down a door Miami vice style with my knees today. I always hear the term 'keep knees out'...am I supposed to aggressively push them out or just make sure they are in proper position because I do the former

[doctor220]

Now that I think about it, I didn't start by hinging at the hips, but rather, tried to get my knees into position first. Could that be why my kneees are so sore after pulling sumo? Feels like I kicked down a door Miami vice style with my knees today. I always hear the term 'keep knees out'...am I supposed to aggressively push them out or just make sure they are in proper position because I do the former

I wouldn't worry about pushing them out unless you have a problem with them caving. Just keep them in line with your feet and you're good to go. I just focus on pushing my hips back and creating a vertical shin angle.

[jax811]

I wouldn't worry about pushing them out unless you have a problem with them caving. Just keep them in line with your feet and you're good to go. I just focus on pushing my hips back and creating a vertical shin angle.

Thanks and I'm actually glad to hear that! I'll need to get another vid, with better angles and when I'm not already fatigued.

[jax811]

Hey all!

New angle this time, so please critique away. I'm trying to actively arch my lower back, because I was noticing a bad habit of still rounding my lower back with 155 on the bar. I pulled this weight for singles, because form still does not feel solid and I didn't want to chance it with more weight. ROM feels like it should be way shorter than it is as well, and the angle of my back looks like it could be more upright. The bar looks like it got away from me as well... Thoughts?