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    Membership sorted, now what?

    Posted a thread few days ago asking what best routine is but cant find it. Overall feedback I recieved was to do either AllPro or SS. My goal is Aesthetics more than strength (But obviously you cant get 1 without the other) so I'm torn between the two.

    Current stats:
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    Most amount of lifting I've done is at home with my 7.5kg (16lbs) Dumbbells

    I tried to squat with a front grip (Holding both DB's infront of my chest) and struggled quite a bit on last set (Doing 4x12) so I'm worried I'm not going to be able to do much at the gym.

    What do you recommend?

    Thanks in advance.
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    5'8" 125lbs...



    food is will be the best routine for now.




    but seriously, there is no "best routine". Learn what the exercises do and how to do them... then go do them. Lifting anything right now would be more beneficial that sitting around looking for the "best" program.
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    You went wrong when you said '. My goal is Aesthetics'.

    After buying a membership, i would suggest attending the gym you have this membership for.
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    Originally Posted by AmScurredOfGyms View Post
    Posted a thread few days ago asking what best routine is but cant find it. Overall feedback I recieved was to do either AllPro or SS. My goal is Aesthetics more than strength (But obviously you cant get 1 without the other) so I'm torn between the two.

    Current stats:
    5'8
    125lbs

    Most amount of lifting I've done is at home with my 7.5kg (16lbs) Dumbbells

    I tried to squat with a front grip (Holding both DB's infront of my chest) and struggled quite a bit on last set (Doing 4x12) so I'm worried I'm not going to be able to do much at the gym.

    What do you recommend?

    Thanks in advance.
    If your goal is aesthetics, than do all pros.
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    Originally Posted by CodyBaragar View Post
    5'8" 125lbs...



    food is will be the best routine for now.




    but seriously, there is no "best routine". Learn what the exercises do and how to do them... then go do them. Lifting anything right now would be more beneficial that sitting around looking for the "best" program.
    Yeah, I'm eating at a surplus right now, I've put on quite a bit of weight since I decided I want to start lifting.

    But I want to take advantage of my noob gains as best I can
    Originally Posted by xipowx View Post
    You went wrong when you said '. My goal is Aesthetics'.

    After buying a membership, i would suggest attending the gym you have this membership for.
    Without any idea of what to do?

    Originally Posted by Ozieman3o5 View Post
    If your goal is aesthetics, than do all pros.
    Ok thanks. Also, for my first day, how do I find my max lift? I mean, doing 1 rep of a (for example) 75lbs squat doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to do 4x12 at 75lbs, right?
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    Originally Posted by AmScurredOfGyms View Post
    Yeah, I'm eating at a surplus right now, I've put on quite a bit of weight since I decided I want to start lifting.

    But I want to take advantage of my noob gains as best I can


    Without any idea of what to do?



    Ok thanks. Also, for my first day, how do I find my max lift? I mean, doing 1 rep of a (for example) 75lbs squat doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to do 4x12 at 75lbs, right?
    For all pros, you need to find your 10 rep max and start with that weight.
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    Don't find out your max yet, wait a bit. Considering you aren't conditioned, you may hurt yourself with bad form + look like a complete idiot.

    Just eat and get on a good routine like P/P/L and PHAT or what ever you like. Calc TDEE and eat in a surplus and gain. Do maxes when you know you're form is down cold and your stabilizer muscles aren't shyt. (trust me, when you start, they will be, especially in free weights)
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    Originally Posted by Cryptarchon View Post
    Don't find out your max yet, wait a bit. Considering you aren't conditioned, you may hurt yourself with bad form + look like a complete idiot.

    Just eat and get on a good routine like P/P/L and PHAT or what ever you like. Calc TDEE and eat in a surplus and gain. Do maxes when you know you're form is down cold and your stabilizer muscles aren't shyt. (trust me, when you start, they will be, especially in free weights)
    Lol, 5'7" and 140, figured you would say some **** like this, op this advice is garbage, you benefit more from higher frequency as a beginner.
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    Originally Posted by Ozieman3o5 View Post
    Lol, 5'7" and 140, figured you would say some **** like this, op this advice is garbage, you benefit more from higher frequency as a beginner.
    How is P/P/L not a high frequency routine assuming it is done twice a week?

    Anyways OP, get in the gym and learn proper form on everything, watch videos on how to do things. Then do Starting Strength.

    Honestly, you need to be eating a ton. You might think you eat a lot but you don't, that is a lie that skinny people tell themselves and even I continue to do so sometimes. Keep eating even when you're full (liquids like pop, milk, shakes are easier to drink for more calories when you are full.)
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    Originally Posted by tommyd323 View Post
    How is P/P/L not a high frequency routine assuming it is done twice a week?

    Anyways OP, get in the gym and learn proper form on everything, watch videos on how to do things. Then do Starting Strength.

    Honestly, you need to be eating a ton. You might think you eat a lot but you don't, that is a lie that skinny people tell themselves and even I continue to do so sometimes. Keep eating even when you're full (liquids like pop, milk, shakes are easier to drink for more calories when you are full.)
    When i say higher frequency i mean full body routines, thats what works best for beginners.
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    Originally Posted by tommyd323 View Post
    How is P/P/L not a high frequency routine assuming it is done twice a week?

    Anyways OP, get in the gym and learn proper form on everything, watch videos on how to do things. Then do Starting Strength.

    Honestly, you need to be eating a ton. You might think you eat a lot but you don't, that is a lie that skinny people tell themselves and even I continue to do so sometimes. Keep eating even when you're full (liquids like pop, milk, shakes are easier to drink for more calories when you are full.)
    I'd say my form is pretty good considering I've been doing various workouts at home with different items, I've done my fair share of research on different types of exercises for a year, but still caught in the middle of what routine to start with. some tell me SS is good and AllPro is bad, others tell me the exact opposite, and then you get some people telling me to do a split.
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    Originally Posted by AmScurredOfGyms View Post
    I'd say my form is pretty good considering I've been doing various workouts at home with different items, I've done my fair share of research on different types of exercises for a year, but still caught in the middle of what routine to start with. some tell me SS is good and AllPro is bad, others tell me the exact opposite, and then you get some people telling me to do a split.
    There both good, they just have different goals, but anyways i already told you what i would recommend based on your goal, so do what you want.
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    Ah ok, thanks, AllPro it is then.
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    Get your bench up to 135lbs, Squat 225lbs and Deadlift 270lbs and you'll see 'aesthetics'.
    Prioritise your diet, eat **** loads and lifts heavy. Once you're at a point where you're strong and understand how to lift you can vary your workouts around. Build a strong base for your first 3-4 months.
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    Originally Posted by Shebbyy View Post
    Get your bench up to 135lbs, Squat 225lbs and Deadlift 270lbs and you'll see 'aesthetics'.
    Prioritise your diet, eat **** loads and lifts heavy. Once you're at a point where you're strong and understand how to lift you can vary your workouts around. Build a strong base for your first 3-4 months.
    So you're saying I should just Bench, Squat and Deadlift?
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