The Official Powerlifting Family Appreciation thread: Part XIII

[dlt76028]

am confused. Pretty sure dan green said this before and why say im wrong and not dlt?

Yea Dan said when squatting if your legs straiten up and you good morning the weight, it's because your legs are weak. Thats true, they couldn't maintain the bent knee pushing action, so they shift the weight to the back.

[NC_Tarheel]

Yea Dan said when squatting if your legs straiten up and you good morning the weight, it's because your legs are weak. Thats true, they couldn't maintain the bent knee pushing action, so they shift the weight to the back.

I am captain of the squat morning crew.



On a side note I am eating leftover oyster dressing and drinking Blue Moon. It's getting hard to breathe at this point.

[SPFjudge]

God damn I'm so full I'm uncomfortable

[NC_Tarheel]

God damn I'm so full I'm uncomfortable

That means you've got room for one more bowl of banana pudding.


I'm going to have vicious heartburn tonight.

[getout87]

I didn't eat much today fam, I am a failure. Oh well.

[xRequiem]

My 2nd Thanksgiving feast kicks off tomorrow and a third on Sunday.

any good black friday sales? Liftinglarge has 20% off

[arian11]

Knee extends, hamstrings fail to extend the hip at the same rate and maintain back angle, lower back finishes movement. The hamstrings are the muscle group that failed in this sequence.

Edit: Didn't see the second part of your question. DLT said weak legs. Hamstrings are part of the leg...didn't feel like specifying.

Same thing in deadlift. People will shoot their hips up at the start and then have to stiff leg it and they are like, I'm posterior chain dominant. Except, if your hip shoots up that means your hamstring was not strong enough to hold your hip in position so your hamstrings are weak. Insert GHR or another exercise that works your hamstring at both ends.

EDIT:

Now can anyone explain wtf is going on here with my knees. Looks like how the hips/knees would move if one were doing an Olympic lift and triple extending.

[coachdeez]

Yea Dan said when squatting if your legs straiten up and you good morning the weight, it's because your legs are weak. Thats true, they couldn't maintain the bent knee pushing action, so they shift the weight to the back.

"Leg" is correct but vague. Some people can interpret that to mean quad.

[coachdeez]

Now can anyone explain wtf is going on here with my knees. Looks like how the hips/knees would move if one were doing an Olympic lift and triple extending.

I've never seen that before. I wish I was able to manipulate the file a little better instead of just rapidly hitting play/pause in youtube, but it looks like your hamstrings took over the middle part of the movement like they should, then you had to shift your gravity forward again to maintain balance. I wish I could see your feet a little better to watch the balance shift from mid-foot to heel and back.

[Mitch666]

My 2nd Thanksgiving feast kicks off tomorrow and a third on Sunday.

any good black friday sales? Liftinglarge has 20% off

I got a 10mm single prong economy belt from there, got a medium and it was too small, but felt really good quality and stiff (no homo) etc. Then shipped it back and got a large, it's much flimsier, not quite sure what to do now. I mean it's better than an crap gym belt still but sort of disappointing

[thom2355]

RIP Mike Jenkins

Very, very sad news. Glad I had the chance to meet him and chat a bit. From what everyone I have talked to said and what that short experience showed, Mike was a great dude and was really good for strongman. He will be missed.

Does DanG even lift anymore? He disappeared.

Yes....I only know this because he has not sold me hi deadlift bar yet.

[dlt76028]

"Leg" is correct but vague. Some people can interpret that to mean quad.

Well I'll say hamstrings then only because I think most everyone has weak hams, and I don't think quads do near as much as people think in lifting.

[Trah275]

Today was a good day...I should finally have a decent bench day tomorrow...

[ampUP11]

So if the only damage to my knee is cartilage, then surely there should be some amount of ibuprofen and adrenaline that will make it not hurt and still let me squat like I used to no? Adding in cissus, msm, all that stuff, would it be safe to assume that weakening cartilage does not increase risk of a tendon/ligament injury in the area if I just work through the pain?

[dlt76028]

Today was a good day...I should finally have a decent bench day tomorrow...

No pics no care. I'm dissapoint

[thom2355]

So if the only damage to my knee is cartilage, then surely there should be some amount of ibuprofen and adrenaline that will make it not hurt and still let me squat like I used to no? Adding in cissus, msm, all that stuff, would it be safe to assume that weakening cartilage does not increase risk of a tendon/ligament injury in the area if I just work through the pain?

IIRC, you said there was not a tear and it was just degeneration. I am not a doctor, nor is anyone here to my knowledge, but the answer from me is NO. You will not squat like you use to with adrenaline and ibuprofen. It will hurt. You will have to get warmed up, maybe tweak form a bit and will have to train through some pain. Eventually the pain becomes the normal and you don't have an issue.

[ampUP11]

IIRC, you said there was not a tear and it was just degeneration. I am not a doctor, nor is anyone here to my knowledge, but the answer from me is NO. You will not squat like you use to with adrenaline and ibuprofen. It will hurt. You will have to get warmed up, maybe tweak form a bit and will have to train through some pain. Eventually the pain becomes the normal and you don't have an issue.

Yeah there is no tear, he said meniscus, the ligaments, everything else seems normal just the cartilage took a bit of a beating from what I assume to be my years of field sports in track and squatting with bow legs at high frequency. Pain doesn't bother me, just trying to understand what the pain signifies so I don't end up damaging something else because I worked through this annoyance.

[Jason2459]

Yeah there is no tear, he said meniscus, the ligaments, everything else seems normal just the cartilage took a bit of a beating from what I assume to be my years of field sports in track and squatting with bow legs at high frequency. Pain doesn't bother me, just trying to understand what the pain signifies so I don't end up damaging something else because I worked through this annoyance.

I somehow doubt it was bow legged related in any way. I agree with thom. Definitely on looking at altering form. Can't remember how you currently squat buy reducing as much knee travel as possible should be your biggest goal to try right now. Wider stance, knees out, sitting back, etc. Box squats can be your biggest friend right now to help reinforce the form change and reduce knee travel even more. Pain is relative and like thom said it will just become normal. Knee sleeves SBDs get them if you haven't. Just the standard or tight fit for every day training.

[thom2355]

Yeah there is no tear, he said meniscus, the ligaments, everything else seems normal just the cartilage took a bit of a beating from what I assume to be my years of field sports in track and squatting with bow legs at high frequency. Pain doesn't bother me, just trying to understand what the pain signifies so I don't end up damaging something else because I worked through this annoyance.

I am no doctor, but my knees are FUBAR and cannot get much worse. Rehband sleeves, regular TKEs/monster walks and hamstring work seem to help out with some pain. Otherwise, just kinda fight through it.

So, my non-qualified medical advice is to fight through it.

[Jason2459]

I am no doctor, but my knees are FUBAR and cannot get much worse. Rehband sleeves, regular TKEs/monster walks and hamstring work seem to help out with some pain. Otherwise, just kinda fight through it.

So, my non-qualified medical advice is to fight through it.

Band tke's, wall squats, Peterson step ups , ankle sled forward/ reverse dragging, ghr, and revhypers. All or a combination of just about every day for me.

[Trah275]

No pics no care. I'm dissapoint

I don't take pics of everything I eat like a little girl...

[ampUP11]

I somehow doubt it was bow legged related in any way. I agree with thom. Definitely on looking at altering form. Can't remember how you currently squat buy reducing as much knee travel as possible should be your biggest goal to try right now. Wider stance, knees out, sitting back, etc. Box squats can be your biggest friend right now to help reinforce the form change and reduce knee travel even more. Pain is relative and like thom said it will just become normal. Knee sleeves SBDs get them if you haven't. Just the standard or tight fit for every day training.

I have loose rehbands that have become less snug of a fit and will use the holidays to ask for SBDs for Xmas. Ditching wraps for the near future and widening stance. I did try that and it helped but like all form changes you start to see where the new weaknesses show up in my hips and glutes for example. My normal squat has some knee travel but isn't as wide as I need it to be.

Thanks for the advice Jason and thom, not asking for doctor opinions just experience and observations which I appreciate. Wider squatting will be my new goal in coming months once I hit my goal weight.

[Jason2459]

I don't take pics of everything I eat like a little girl...

Like you don't take pictures of you eating little girls or you eating like you are a little girl?

[LegosInMyEgos]

hi.

doge is life

[dlt76028]

I somehow doubt it was bow legged related in any way. I agree with thom. Definitely on looking at altering form. Can't remember how you currently squat buy reducing as much knee travel as possible should be your biggest goal to try right now. Wider stance, knees out, sitting back, etc. Box squats can be your biggest friend right now to help reinforce the form change and reduce knee travel even more. Pain is relative and like thom said it will just become normal. Knee sleeves SBDs get them if you haven't. Just the standard or tight fit for every day training.

Knees out hurts a lot more to me then knees strait forward. Think about this, every knee injury blown out that I've seen have been wide squatters bowing in. You don't here much about knee problems in oly squatters who close stance squat

[dlt76028]

I don't take pics of everything I eat like a little girl...

Right in da feels... I just shared once...

[ampUP11]

Knees out hurts a lot more to me then knees strait forward. Think about this, every knee injury blown out that I've seen have been wide squatters bowing in. You don't here much about knee problems in oly squatters who close stance squat

I think for me the biggest injury prevention tip is finding a stance I can hit depth with minimal knee travel. Not necessarily thinking in terms of knees out super far but if I can improve my glute/hip strength to where I can squat right outside shoulder width and sit back deeper and stronger without doing a lean forward squat morning, I will achieve the same goal through different means

[Jason2459]

Knees out hurts a lot more to me then knees strait forward. Think about this, every knee injury blown out that I've seen have been wide squatters bowing in. You don't here much about knee problems in oly squatters who close stance squat

Knees tracking is a better term. Knees out is the cue to not let the knees collapse at all. With chitty knees having them come in at all kills me. Actively pushing out and keeping them tracking with the toes. Knee travel forward is also a killer with chitty knees for most.

[ampUP11]

Knees tracking is a better term. Knees out is the cue to not let the knees collapse at all. With chitty knees having them come in at all kills me. Actively pushing out and keeping them tracking with the toes. Knee travel forward is also a killer with chitty knees for most.

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[Jason2459]

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