perfect form going to failure vs bad form to failure

[gt96]

when you use slow and controlled form the whole time and cant get another one in and stopping rather then starting to cheat and push 2 more out with bad form....so youre not really going to full failure when you use good form it only happens when you start to yank the weight around, so technically it would be ok to go to failure as long as you are keeping good form. thoughts?

[Unforglven]

Personally, I only like to do what I know I can do without arching my back or cheating. It's better to miss a couple reps than injure yourself. Basically, maintain good form throughout. When I would go to failure with bad form I actually strained my hamstring and somehow got my back out of alignment. The time to recover is not worth the extra rep(s).

[gt96]

Personally, I only like to do what I know I can do without arching my back or cheating. It's better to miss a couple reps than injure yourself. Basically, maintain good form throughout. When I would go to failure with bad form I actually strained my hamstring and somehow got my back out of alignment. The time to recover is not worth the extra rep(s).

Yea same here I got injured to, but you really are not going to full failure if you only stop still having good form, its only when you start to cheat to push out a couple more when you are going to full failure.

[SmallLats]

how about just getting a plan and lifting weights instead of worrying about miniscule details?

[CupcakeSquats]

Personally, I only like to do what I know I can do without arching my back or cheating. It's better to miss a couple reps than injure yourself. Basically, maintain good form throughout. When I would go to failure with bad form I actually strained my hamstring and somehow got my back out of alignment. The time to recover is not worth the extra rep(s).

What are you talking about? On which lift is a back arch cheating?

[shreddomorph]

when i take bench to failure i keep my good form but will have my spotter do negatives for me. true failure. it is better to stop at perfect form than to push 2 BS reps out. getting hurt with bad form won't help at all.

Smart OP

[shreddomorph]

What are you talking about? On which lift is a back arch cheating?

on what lifts are a back arch good?!?!?! i never arch my back good way to snap city right there.

[gt96]

[QUOTE=SmallLats;1061675791]how about just getting a plan and lifting weights instead of worrying about miniscule
Youre right, cause these forum dont have any miniscule questions.....lol

[CupcakeSquats]

on what lifts are a back arch good?!?!?! i never arch my back good way to snap city right there.

You being serious?
Bench press- Retain natural back arch to keep stability. Pull in shoulder blades and tuck in elbows to save elbows and rotator cuffs.
Deadlifts- Lol, if you don't retain your spine's natural arch here, then you're definitely headed to snap city.
Squat- see: deadlift.

[SmallLats]

what do you squat? I need tips from you

You being serious?
Bench press- Retain natural back arch to keep stability. Pull in shoulder blades and tuck in elbows to save elbows and rotator cuffs.
Deadlifts- Lol, if you don't retain your spine's natural arch here, then you're definitely headed to snap city.
Squat- see: deadlift.

[Unforglven]

What are you talking about? On which lift is a back arch cheating?

Some people do arch their back unnaturally because of a weak core or lack of knowledge. I'm sure he knew that already even though its pretty basic, but this is a forum to help and encourage people. Instead of asking whether or not that was something he did I just included that portion. I'm not saying your reply to mine wasn't justified, I'm just better explaining what I meant.

[CupcakeSquats]

what do you squat? I need tips from you

Why? You squat more than me. I should be asking you for tips.

[gt96]

Why? You squat more than me. I should be asking you for tips.

He squats more than you according to the internet.

[shreddomorph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkKrqvD7lk

hey cupcake princess is this your idea of good bench form... not mine.

[CupcakeSquats]

He squats more than you according to the internet.

I've seen his videos. He's legit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkKrqvD7lk

hey cupcake princess is this your idea of good bench form... not mine.

Well let's see. This is a sanctioned meet. She got 3 white lights. You mad because a 13 year old benches more than you? Very insecure aren't you.

Don't worry, I wish I was big and strong and Russian too, but I don't whine about it like a little *******. Stop responding to me, your ignorance is unbearable.

[shreddomorph]

I've seen his videos. He's legit.

Well let's see. This is a sanctioned meet. She got 3 white lights. You mad because a 13 year old benches more than you? Very insecure aren't you.

Don't worry, I wish I was big and strong and Russian too, but I don't whine about it like a little *******. Stop responding to me, your ignorance is unbearable.

funny even powerlifters i've showed this to comment on how stupid of form that is. but whatever based off how small you are you must be a professional huh? and again your need to try and drag people down makes me sure you're a bich. if nothing else just another tiny little troll. enjoy trollin personally what some smartmouth kid thinks means nothing to me.

[Arcos27]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkKrqvD7lk

hey cupcake princess is this your idea of good bench form... not mine.

You obviously don't know the difference between a bb style BP and a PLing style bench press.

Do some research *******

[CupcakeSquats]

funny even powerlifters i've showed this to comment on how stupid of form that is. but whatever based off how small you are you must be a professional huh? and again your need to try and drag people down makes me sure you're a bich. if nothing else just another tiny little troll. enjoy trollin personally what some smartmouth kid thinks means nothing to me.

Tell you what, post that video in the Powerlifting/Strongman section, give them your opinion, and ask for their opinions. Try your best to stay green.

[tazui1982]

Op is right i found the hard way, i did ss for 2 months went from 40kg to 120 with squat bad form, cheating and semi good mornings. Results: good for ego but bad for joints and lower back. I'm squatting 100kg right now and still leaning forward when reaching near failure. Damn hate them squats.

[Crossedoutt]

LOL @ someone thinking arched back is bad form

[chrisisjim]

funny even powerlifters i've showed this to comment on how stupid of form that is. but whatever based off how small you are you must be a professional huh? and again your need to try and drag people down makes me sure you're a bich. if nothing else just another tiny little troll. enjoy trollin personally what some smartmouth kid thinks means nothing to me.

you are retarded

do like cupcakesquats says and post it on the powerlifting section with you're opinion


would love to see you become red