The New Christian Thread 2

[lasher]

Old thread is closed, here is the new one

I've put together some resources I think might be helpful for those seeking detailed information about the Christian faith. If anyone has any suggestions for additional resources please feel free to chime in.


Apologetics Websites

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/ - The apologetics Ministry of Dr. William Lane Craig. (focuses on evidential apologetics)
http://www.reasons.org/ - The apologetics Ministry of Dr. Hugh Ross. (focuses on science and Christianity)
http://www.rzim.org/ - The apologetics Ministry of Dr. Ravi Zacharias
http://www.risenjesus.com/ The apologetics Ministry of Dr. Mike Licona (focuses on the history of the resurrection)
http://www.aomin.org/ The apologetics Ministry of Dr. James White
http://www.tektonics.org/
http://www.vincentcheung.com/library/ This site has a large series of free books on systematic theology, apologetics, and much more. Good stuff.
http://librivox.org/ - Audio books on a number of classical Christian works. Eusebius's history of the church, Augustine's Confessions & much more.

Podcasts

Unbelievable? – Hosted by Justin Brierly with Premier Christian Radio
Unbelievable? is a UK-based public radio program, which airs every Saturday afternoon with an occasional podcast posting mid-week. Justin brings in several leading scholars in theological and philosophical matters and they debate and dialogue particular issues ranging from ethics, comparative religions, the existence of God, science, doctrinal differences, and current events. http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable

Defenders – Hosted by William Lane Craig with Reasonable Faith.
This podcast is an audio recording of William Lane Craig’s class at Johnson Ferry Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA. The purpose of the class is to equip the laity with sound doctrine and apologetics. The whole course takes about five years to exhaust and is intellectually and spiritually engaging. http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/...ain#defenders2

The Dividing Line – Hosted by James White with Alpha and Omega Ministries. James White offers an amazing podcast centered around a Reformed theological perspective on debates, current events, and other theological issues.
http://aomin.org/articles/webcast.html

Reasonable Faith – Hosted by Kevin Harris and William Lane Craig
This podcast is conversationally based where Kevin interviews Craig about apologetic issues.
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/...asting_main#rf

I Didn’t Know That – Hosted by Joe Aguirre with Reasons to Believe. This podcast is listener based where listeners email in their questions and the scholar team at Reasons to Believe (Hugh Ross, Jeff Zweerink, Fuzz Rana, Ken Samples, et al.) answer the questions. http://www.reasons.org/resources/rad...-podcasts/idkt

In Our Time – Hosted by Melvyn Bragg. This podcast is based out of the BBC 4, which delves into mathematical, scientific, and philosophical inquiries. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/in-our-time/

Apologetics315 Apologist Interview – Hosted Brian Auten. This is a series of podcasts where Auten interviews some of the leading scholars in the area of philosophy and theology. http://feeds.feedburner.com/Apologetics315Interviews

Let My People Think - Ravi Zacharias
http://www.rzim.org/let-my-people-think-broadcasts/


I also have a dropbox account with several gigs worth of PDF's on systematic theology, church history, NT/OT commentaries, apologetics, etc. PM me if you would like the username/password to it.

[Alchem]

1rd.. What are some good books on the textual integrity of the Bible/NT?

[MartinRoberts]

Be careful people, you will be considered a troll if you question anything...

[lasher]

Be careful people, you will be considered a troll if you question anything...

No, you will be considered a troll if you say stupid things.

[lasher]

1rd.. What are some good books on the textual integrity of the Bible/NT?

NT Overview

http://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-...words=ff+bruce



http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...0gospels&ajr=2



http://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-...words=ff+bruce




Textual Criticism
http://www.amazon.com/Revisiting-Cor.../dp/082543338X



http://www.amazon.com/Text-New-Testa...etzger+textual


These are the best books on the issue, imo.

[MartinRoberts]

No, you will be considered a troll if you say stupid things.

Stupid things... So I ask a question and you respond with racist and discriminitive slurs directed at me...

I think a stupid thing is to claim that someone can't make claims, that's somewhat ironic don't you think? Hypocrisy is strong in you...

[lasher]

I think a stupid thing is to claim that someone can't make claims, that's somewhat ironic don't you think? Hypocrisy is strong in you...

I never said people can't make claims. I said making stupid claims gets you labeled as a troll.

[surekid]

Stupid things... So I ask a question and you respond with racist and discriminitive slurs directed at me...

I think a stupid thing is to claim that someone can't make claims, that's somewhat ironic don't you think? Hypocrisy is strong in you...

Bad troll is bad, this is a Christianity thread son. Pls go

[MartinRoberts]

No racist slurs were directed at you. I don't know what discriminitive means. Probably because it's not a real word.



I never said people can't make claims. I said making stupid claims gets you labeled as a troll.

I said I could make a claim, you said I could not. I then said I could claim I had a unicorn on my shoulder proving that yes, I can make a claim even if that claim is obviously false.

If you don't know what discrimination is then you are what is wrong with the religious world. Didn't Jesus teach to love thy neighbour? If so then why spread hate?

[boseador]

I think it is a waste of time to discuss about a book with erroneous knowledge about the world and the impossible miracles it claims.

It is like discussing a Harry Poter book.

[MartinRoberts]

Bad troll is bad, this is a Christianity thread son. Pls go

Is the true meaning of Christianity to bully and refuse questioning? This is a Christianity thread and before being trolled I was asking genuine questions about Christianity. This thread is about religion, not trolling, stop bringing up trolls. If you want to put folklore and myths of other religions into discussion then start a new thread.

[lasher]

I said I could make a claim, you said I could not.

No I didn't

I then said I could claim I had a unicorn on my shoulder proving that yes, I can make a claim even if that claim is obviously false.

yes, you did make the above referenced potato post.

If you don't know what discrimination is then you are what is wrong with the religious world. Didn't Jesus teach to love thy neighbour? If so then why spread hate?

I know what discrimination means. I don't know what discriminitive means

[lasher]

Is the true meaning of Christianity to bully and refuse questioning? This is a Christianity thread and before being trolled I was asking genuine questions about Christianity. This thread is about religion, not trolling, stop bringing up trolls. If you want to put folklore and myths of other religions into discussion then start a new thread.

You weren't being trolled. You are the one trolling. Your posts are some of the most inane nonsense I've ever seen here. You will be called out for uneducated crap gleaned from infidel.com in this thread and in the former thread. Deal with it.

edit: lol @ your poverty neg.

[surekid]

Is the true meaning of Christianity to bully and refuse questioning?

No, Is the true meaning of being an atheist to troll endlessly? Pls feel free to put forward any questioning.

[MartinRoberts]

No I didn't



yes, you did make the above referenced potato post.





I know what discrimination means. I don't know what discriminitive means

dis·crim·i·na·tive (d-skrm-ntv, -n-tv)
adj.
1. Drawing distinctions.
2. Marked by or showing prejudice:

See? Now you're learning.

Originally Posted by MartinRoberts
The simple and pretty sick truth is that I can make a claim such as I have proof that God isn't real, but I'm keeping it to myself. You may say it's bull**** but where's your proof that I don't have proof?

(your response

No you can't.

[MartinRoberts]

No, Is the true meaning of being an atheist to troll endlessly? Pls feel free to put forward any questioning.

No, the true meaning of being a militant Atheist is to help people appreciate the truth.

[MartinRoberts]

You weren't being trolled. You are the one trolling. Your posts are some of the most inane nonsense I've ever seen here. You will be called out for uneducated crap gleaned from infidel.com in this thread and in the former thread. Deal with it.

edit: lol @ your poverty neg.

Again you are accusing me of using sources I have never even heard of. If you walk into a room and hear two minutes of an hour long conversation will you believe you can make a fair judgement on what you have heard alone? If not then why are you doing so in my case?

[surekid]

No, the true meaning of being a militant Atheist is to help people appreciate the truth.

Feel free to put forward your truth, so far in this thread all I have seen you do is troll

[lasher]

dis·crim·i·na·tive (d-skrm-ntv, -n-tv)
adj.
1. Drawing distinctions.
2. Marked by or showing prejudice:

See? Now you're learning.

I didn't discriminate against you though. You should probably man up a little. Geting corrected for posting gibberish is not discrimination.

(your response

I didn't mean you can't literally type the words of a post. I can't believe I have to spell that out for you.

[lasher]

Again you are accusing me of using sources I have never even heard of. If you walk into a room and hear two minutes of an hour long conversation will you believe you can make a fair judgement on what you have heard alone? If not then why are you doing so in my case?

I am going off of your posts, which is consistent with crap from the sources I mentioned. It's irrelevant if you got them literally from those sources or not, as the content of what you say is the same.

[MartinRoberts]

Feel free to put forward your truth, so far in this thread all I have seen you do is troll

The truth. OK. How about there is no evidence whatsoever of a biblical God?

[surekid]

The truth. OK. How about there is no evidence whatsoever of a biblical God?

Proof?

[MartinRoberts]

I didn't discriminate against you though. You should probably man up a little. Geting corrected for posting gibberish is not discrimination.



I didn't mean you can't literally type the words of a post. I can't believe I have to spell that out for you.

It wasn't your attempt at correcting me that was discriminitive, it was your generalisation of those in this country and your personal attack against my mental health.

You said I couldn't make a claim. That is what you said. You have to spell it out? Wow, it's like what I said to you a short while ago...
Why is it that you can change the meaning of what you've posted yet I can't explain the meaning of one of my posts going by what I typed earlier? How is that fair, one rule for you and another for me?

[Weightaholic]

Proof?

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that we are talking about proof independent from the Bible.

[MartinRoberts]

Proof?

The prooof is that there is no evidence. You can't prove that something isn't only that something is and there is nothing to prove that your God is real. Every story or piece of 'evidence' contributing to him existing has been proven false. If I am wrong then enlighten me.

[lasher]

It wasn't your attempt at correcting me that was discriminitive, it was your generalisation of those in this country and your personal attack against my mental health.

Good grief.

Here brah, this should help

You said I couldn't make a claim. That is what you said. You have to spell it out?

I meant you cannot prove the claim you were hinting at. And that is what I was marveling at having to spell out for you.

[MartinRoberts]

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that we are talking about proof independent from the Bible.

Have you read Harry Potter? A Batman comic? The Mr Men books? Going by the logic of the bible proving the bible you can say that each of those exist, especially Harry Potter as it has true locations in it.

[surekid]

The prooof is that there is no evidence. You can't prove that something isn't only that something is and there is nothing to prove that your God is real. Every story or piece of 'evidence' contributing to him existing has been proven false. If I am wrong then enlighten me.

Guess you never heard about the resurrection of Jesus

[MartinRoberts]

Good grief.

Here brah, this should help





I meant you cannot prove the claim you were hinting at. And that is what I was marveling at having to spell out for you.

If I can't prove my claim and that alone makes it invalid what about alll the claims made by the religious? Can't you accept my claim on faith alone?

[MartinRoberts]

Guess you never heard about the resurrection of Jesus

Guess you've never heard of a fairy-tale.