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    How much do you pay for protein?

    Last time I thought I was getting a good deal, I just got lol'z here. I paid $74 for 10lbs. I thought it was a decent price.

    Just talked to a friend who gets his protein from Sam's ~$35 for 5lbs. ON is my favorite but honestly $53 for 5lbs is more than I want to spend.
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    I usually pay about $25 for 10lbs on sale
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    Try to keep it at about $8 to $10 per pound.
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    $15/kg In Australia you can't go wrong, but i go unflavored so it's cheap.
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    Originally Posted by Bigdumogre View Post
    Chicken cutlets were on sale $1.79 a lb
    actually thought about this... maybe some chicken or turkey jerky to just have on the desk. obviously would still need pre and post protein, but for general protein consumption might be a good idea. whole food > supps...

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    $15/kg In Australia you can't go wrong, but i go unflavored so it's cheap.
    saw some unflavored on amazon for a decent price. the benefit I see here is that it could go with any drink. doesn't have to be chocalate or vanilla. could be gatorade or the likes... even during workout nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by cv7713 View Post
    actually thought about this... maybe some chicken or turkey jerky to just have on the desk. obviously would still need pre and post protein, but for general protein consumption might be a good idea. whole food > supps...


    saw some unflavored on amazon for a decent price. the benefit I see here is that it could go with any drink. doesn't have to be chocalate or vanilla. could be gatorade or the likes... even during workout nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    wut
    not a good idea to have a faster digesting protein post workout? broscience?

    also preworkout, chicken breast and brocolli work great for me but anything else tends to sit in my stomach for too long. prefer faster digesting protein pre.

    am I really that far off??? multi-billion dollar industry and I guess I'm the only one who drinks protein pre and post workout.
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    Nutrient timing really doesn't matter

    Fast vs Slow digesting protein really doesnt matter
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    Originally Posted by cv7713 View Post
    not a good idea to have a faster digesting protein post workout? broscience?

    also preworkout, chicken breast and brocolli work great for me but anything else tends to sit in my stomach for too long. prefer faster digesting protein pre.

    am I really that far off??? multi-billion dollar industry and I guess I'm the only one who drinks protein pre and post workout.
    Micromanaging protein timing from various sources (fast/slow digesting, etc.) is pretty much insignificant in the grand scheme. Save yourself the headache.

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    $1.88/lbs for Sam's Club chicken. Whey protein I don't usually go much over $40/5 lbs.
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    Walmart has pretty cheap protein for 18 dollars plus tax. you can't beat that. Team body fortress, whey protein, and pure protein all cost the same price in those jugs.
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    obviously would still need pre and post protein
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    Nutrient timing really doesn't matter

    Fast vs Slow digesting protein really doesnt matter
    Originally Posted by Valhallabound86 View Post
    Micromanaging protein timing from various sources (fast/slow digesting, etc.) is pretty much insignificant in the grand scheme. Save yourself the headache.
    well dam fellas. so why whey protein at all then? convenience? easier to slam 50 grams of protein in a shake vs 8oz of chicken breast? what do you say about the magic 30-60 minute window of opportunity after a workout? you just eat a full meal post workout? I usually have 1 scoop of protein followed by a full meal approx 1 hour later.
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    Originally Posted by mandimeoutof10 View Post
    made me lol. i learned it on the internet... they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true!

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    Originally Posted by cv7713 View Post
    Last time I thought I was getting a good deal, I just got lol'z here. I paid $74 for 10lbs. I thought it was a decent price.

    Just talked to a friend who gets his protein from Sam's ~$35 for 5lbs. ON is my favorite but honestly $53 for 5lbs is more than I want to spend.
    $74 for 10 lbs isn't bad at all. Its all about the quality level you're looking for. I would eat a cardboard box with peanut butter before I would use the protein your friend got. It's always a good idea, if you can, to buy in bigger increments. Also, more important than the price per pound, is the price per serving.
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    Originally Posted by cv7713 View Post
    well dam fellas. so why whey protein at all then? convenience? easier to slam 50 grams of protein in a shake vs 8oz of chicken breast? what do you say about the magic 30-60 minute window of opportunity after a workout? you just eat a full meal post workout? I usually have 1 scoop of protein followed by a full meal approx 1 hour later.
    Convenience mainly. I use them as a breakfast shake for ease (and mostly because I don't feel like eating chicken in the AM). The window of opportunity post workout is open for ~24 hours. I usually eat a meal since there's ~4h of a gap between my last meal and heading into the gym.

    Better off with a whole meal.
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    Phase 8 here on bb.com is $30 for 4 lbs right now... its also getting a ton of great feedback, like this or this or even this.

    point being protein powder can be had at under $8 per lb pretty easily... so read reviews and find one that fits your macros and has great feedback, cheapest price isn't always your best option so reading others feedback will help.
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    Originally Posted by MattieTrump97 View Post
    $74 for 10 lbs isn't bad at all. Its all about the quality level you're looking for. I would eat a cardboard box with peanut butter before I would use the protein your friend got. It's always a good idea, if you can, to buy in bigger increments. Also, more important than the price per pound, is the price per serving.
    No supplement company makes their own protein, most get them from the same whey makers. What you pay for is flavor/brand.

    And if you really wanna get down to what's important, price per gram of protein, some proteins have larger serving sizes than others so it doesn't tell the whole story.
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    Nutrient timing really doesn't matter

    Fast vs Slow digesting protein really doesnt matter
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    Bit of a stretch....There are pretty well documented benefits to post-workout nutrition:


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    Originally Posted by cv7713 View Post
    ...obviously would still need pre and post protein...

    Yeah, it's true. Maybe some chicken breast, peanuts, turkeys? ^^
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    Dweeb, do you think it will have any major effect on body comp when compared to....sayyyy....someone who does not ingest it PW?

    Serious question
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    Dweeb, do you think it will have any major effect on body comp when compared to....sayyyy....someone who does not ingest it PW?

    Serious question
    Do I think that ingesting the proper nutrients within the first couple hours after your workout will have statistically significant effects on your exercise-induced changes in body composition compared to not doing so?

    Absolutely.

    I'm pretty sure both science and practice agree with me on this....
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    Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Do I think that ingesting the proper nutrients within the first couple hours after your workout will have statistically significant effects on your exercise-induced changes in body composition compared to not doing so?

    Absolutely.

    I'm pretty sure both science and practice agree with me on this....
    Now what about IF?
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    Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Do I think that ingesting the proper nutrients within the first couple hours after your workout will have statistically significant effects on your exercise-induced changes in body composition compared to not doing so?

    Absolutely.

    I'm pretty sure both science and practice agree with me on this....
    Even if we put the idea of IF aside for a moment.

    I don't think anyone is saying within a couple of hours. Hell, you'd be hungry by then. What we're talking about is "anabolic window" bullchit of taking in a "fast absorbing protein shake" within 30 mins to an hour. Eating within a couple of hours is a different animal altogether.
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    Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Do I think that ingesting the proper nutrients within the first couple hours after your workout will have statistically significant effects on your exercise-induced changes in body composition compared to not doing so?

    Absolutely.

    I'm pretty sure both science and practice agree with me on this....

    I agree with this as well. I honestly do.

    I think proper nutrients (being consumed) shortly after a workout is ideal. Not saying I completely believe in the 'golden hour' or anything, but at the same time I think some people are getting a bit carried away with the "timing doesn't matter at all" thing when it does. I think you need to keep your metabolism going, you need to fuel your body and the best way to do that is with a shake or whole food sometime within that 2 hour window of finishing a workout.





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    The data's pretty clear that there is some slight benefit to post workout administration of CHO/PRO up to 3h post exercise. I would think that there are very few people who enjoy working out in a completely fasted state, then existing in the same state for any more than 3h post resistance training, so the large majority is likely ingesting said nutrients within that time frame regardless.

    The generalization of nutrient timing not mattering is more used as a form to deter novice lifters from worrying about micromanaging EAA/BCAA/PRO/CHO timing so early on. Falls under the same category of ~1g/lbs LBM protein consumption, at least in my mind.

    I don't have the time to go through and research the statistics (nor likely the permissions to view all full articles), but would be interested to see the sway of CV's from group to group pertaining to changes in LBM.
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    Even if we put the idea of IF aside for a moment.

    I don't think anyone is saying within a couple of hours. Hell, you'd be hungry by then. What we're talking about is "anabolic window" bullchit of taking in a "fast absorbing protein shake" within 30 mins to an hour. Eating within a couple of hours is a different animal altogether.
    With regards to consistency, Isn't it much easier for the casual resistance trainee to get into the habit of mixing a protein shake and eating a banana immediately after their workout, than it is to say 'hey **** that logic just eat some food' and then by the time they drive home, argue with their wife, their kids want something, or they have somewhere else to be....etc it's hours later before they get a balanced meal.

    Does the 'oh screw nutrient timing, just supplement with chicken and steak when you get home hurdur' argument that gets spammed around here really hold water? Can you honestly say that the protein consumed there is not just equivalent to but significantly superior to just taking a shake and some carbs after you workout?

    I don't think you can.

    As for intermittent fasting, that is a highly specific protocol and it's a logical fallacy to jump from 'but what about IF!!!' to 'nutrient timing is bullchit'
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