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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I think recovery will always be an issue, right? No DOMS, no care.
    It's not DOMS, man. It's them joints that hurt. Shoulders, knees, and lower back. Everything else is pretty swell. DOMS I can handle.

    Joint pains at 30 I cannot.

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    Originally Posted by Voxmusculus View Post
    It's not DOMS, man. It's them joints that hurt. Shoulders, knees, and lower back. Everything else is pretty swell. DOMS I can handle.

    Joint pains at 30 I cannot.
    I remember reading about them a little earlier ITT. You're taking fish-oil, I assume? I'm 29 and suffer from shoulder joint pain, but this is from my college goalkeeping days. Bad form

    The thing that sucks is I know they'll just continue to get worse. Think about age 50. ouch.
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I remember reading about them a little earlier ITT. You're taking fish-oil, I assume? I'm 29 and suffer from shoulder joint pain, but this is from my college goalkeeping days. Bad form
    Yup, fish oil, bone/joint supplements, BCAAs, and multis (and of course, Creatine). I was deficient in Vitamin D for a while there (like, way back in June), so I restarted taking some more D supplements to see if that helps, since D and Calcium are both necessary for bone health.

    At first, I thought it was just bad form -- but they hurt even when I only use the machines (e.g. shoulder press or chest press). So, figured it had to be more than that.

    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    The thing that sucks is I know they'll just continue to get worse. Think about age 50. ouch.
    Gee, thanks. Now I know why my parents moved to the Caymans from Connecticut when they retired.

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    Originally Posted by Voxmusculus View Post
    Gee, thanks. Now I know why my parents moved to the Caymans from Connecticut when they retired.
    whoa, timeout. I'm 29 with joint pain. I have the same feels....not making fun.
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    whoa, timeout. I'm 29 with joint pain. I have the same feels....not making fun.
    Oh I know. I just meant, thanks for reminding me about how I just much more fun living in a cold, damp place would be twenty years from now. ;-)

    And in other news, my weight is now at 147 lbs. Finally! Upward trend. This must be the crappiest bulk ever -- 4+ months of bulking with less than 10 lbs? Meh.

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    ITT: vox has arthritis or tendonitis or both

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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I remember reading about them a little earlier ITT. You're taking fish-oil, I assume? I'm 29 and suffer from shoulder joint pain, but this is from my college goalkeeping days. Bad form

    The thing that sucks is I know they'll just continue to get worse. Think about age 50. ouch.
    I used to have the worst joint pain when I was 100lbs heavier in my 30's.
    But from 39 on (when I hit that lower bf%) I have very little chronic joint pain.
    I'll be 41 in a few weeks.

    The closest thing is the inside of my elbow's hurt to the touch after I do manual labor & sometimes my rotator cuffs will hurt if I do overhead presses too many workouts in a row.
    So then I just switch to wide grip upright rows for a few workouts & all is good.

    I'm in the North East also so in the winter i'll do extra warm-up sets because if i've been outside for any length of time my toes & fingers are usually cold.
    Since I got skinny I have no more insulation. LOL!

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    Originally Posted by Voxmusculus View Post
    Oh I know. I just meant, thanks for reminding me about how I just much more fun living in a cold, damp place would be twenty years from now. ;-)
    Damn right, no one needs that. I now have 11 years left to learn Spanish and initiate my Central American retirement plan. People were not meant to live in anyplace where it snows.

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    ITT: vox has arthritis or tendonitis or both

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    Originally Posted by dmacdonal9 View Post
    Damn right, no one needs that. I now have 11 years left to learn Spanish and initiate my Central American retirement plan. People were not meant to live in anyplace where it snows.
    I'm thinking New Orleans or hell, even Florida.

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    Originally Posted by Voxmusculus View Post
    or hell, even Florida.

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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
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    Moore, ur losing it. I don't see sh*t.

    I'd consider moving to FLA only if I was guaranteed to stumble across Girls Gone Wild filming sessions on a somewhat frequent basis. And see real live gators and stuff.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Moore, ur losing it. I don't see sh*t.

    I'd consider moving to FLA only if I was guaranteed to stumble across Girls Gone Wild filming sessions on a somewhat frequent basis. And see real live gators and stuff.
    South Beach would be the sh*t.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    I'd consider moving to FLA only if I was guaranteed to stumble across Girls Gone Wild filming sessions on a somewhat frequent basis. And see real live gators and stuff.
    That doesn't happen. I went to an actual Girls Gone Wild sponsored event in Miami, and there were only 2 wild girls there, and they were both ugly.

    Gators are also douchebags.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Moore, ur losing it. I don't see sh*t.

    I'd consider moving to FLA only if I was guaranteed to stumble across Girls Gone Wild filming sessions on a somewhat frequent basis. And see real live gators and stuff.
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    That's what I posted.

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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post

    Gators are also douchebags.
    Lmao

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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    That doesn't happen. I went to an actual Girls Gone Wild sponsored event in Miami, and there were only 2 wild girls there, and they were both ugly.

    Gators are also douchebags.
    Yeah, I was kinda kidding. Even when I am old, I'd want to be able to hike up some hills, and Florida doesn't look like the place for that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...highest_points

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Yeah, I was kinda kidding. Even when I am old, I'd want to be able to hike up some hills, and Florida doesn't look like the place for that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...highest_points
    Yeah? Well, if my joints are in pain now, odds are in 20 years, I'll not be climbing anything outside of hot naked chicks.

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    Joint pain, not even once...... I got lots of feels, but joint pain aint one thankfully. Why you guys trashing your bodies like that?
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    Originally Posted by phoenixr2 View Post
    Joint pain, not even once...... I got lots of feels, but joint pain aint one thankfully. Why you guys trashing your bodies like that?
    i had lots of it when i first started. Once i started avoiding the stupid exercises (ANY forearm isolation, and movements the body isnt supposed to be doing) and getting my form down it went away.
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    (ANY forearm isolation, and movements the body isnt supposed to be doing)
    Even plate pinches and the like? Wrist curls are retarded but I can't see how plate pinches could cause any issues with joints, not that I do them.
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    i had lots of it when i first started. Once i started avoiding the stupid exercises (ANY forearm isolation, and movements the body isnt supposed to be doing) and getting my form down it went away.
    I get them even when I use exercise equipment with little chances of poor form. Anyway, have an appointment with my doc on Friday to figure out what's going on.

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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Even plate pinches and the like? Wrist curls are retarded but I can't see how plate pinches could cause any issues with joints, not that I do them.
    Thats really the only thing that id ever do, i used to do them when my grip sucked but farmer walks will put meat on your forearms. Wrist curls are just stupid though, i think people treat the thing like a bicep.
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    Originally Posted by phoenixr2 View Post
    Joint pain, not even once...... I got lots of feels, but joint pain aint one thankfully. Why you guys trashing your bodies like that?
    I "trashed" mine playing goalkeeper in college. Just fell too often on my elbows and shoulders. I would have done it differently if I could do it again. You didn't feel it then but I sure feel it now. I get a nice pop in my shoulder at the bottom of every bench rep. This is why bench will always be a weak lift for me.
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    Grab towel and hang on

    Great grip exercise. Anything involving a bar does not engage the thumb like this will.

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    i had lots of it when i first started. Once i started avoiding the stupid exercises (ANY forearm isolation, and movements the body isnt supposed to be doing) and getting my form down it went away.
    There is no such thing as stupid exercises. Only stupid people.

    BTW how is your back. Dem deadlifts are brilliant.

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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I "trashed" mine playing goalkeeper in college. Just fell too often on my elbows and shoulders. I would have done it differently if I could do it again. You didn't feel it then but I sure feel it now. I get a nice pop in my shoulder at the bottom of every bench rep. This is why bench will always be a weak lift for me.
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    Originally Posted by BradKemp View Post
    There is no such thing as stupid exercises. Only stupid people.

    BTW how is your back. Dem deadlifts are brilliant.








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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    bunchof exercises
    Never had any issues with lateral DB raises or upright rows (with the right grip-width). Some overhead presses, yes.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    After I spent some time perusing the main forum, I learned that I should not ever make fun of Brad's Canadian Creamed Corn, no matter how much it looks like the aftermath of a 21 Run. Cause he'll lay the smackdown on my candy ass.
    I love the aftermath that followed.
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