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    Why are shotguns the preferred weapon for home defense?

    I never understood this ( especially pump action ). Unless you get your stamps they have to have an 18" barrel and be at least 26" long.

    Why would you want a long arm like that in the CQC environment? Any pistol with a 30rd mag and hollowpoints would be more ideal than a shotgun.
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    The sound a loading a shotgun is intimidating as hell. Also, you don't have to be that accurate.

    Try shooting an intruder in the dark at 30 ft with a 4" barrel vs a shotgun which will cover half of the room in one shot.
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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    The sound a loading a shotgun is intimidating as hell. Also, you don't have to be that accurate.

    Try shooting an intruder in the dark at 30 ft with a 4" barrel vs a shotgun which will cover half of the room in one shot.
    Spread is going to be extremely tight in CQC though. It's not like in the video games or movies.
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    just lol if you're not using one of these for home defense

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    Because you don't need a permit to own a shotgun. And a lot easier to use I guess.

    Personally like you said it would not be optimal in tight places so it's not my first choice, rather my shield any day over a shotgun. Plus we have guns hidden around the house so no matter what level of the home we are in, there is a weapon we can get to fairly easy
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    Originally Posted by avodo View Post
    just lol if you're not using one of these for home defense

    I don't want to wake the neighbors though


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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    Spread is going to be extremely tight in CQC though. It's not like in the video games or movies.
    I agree the spread will be tighter in CQC, but its still going to have a bigger kill range than a pistol or rifle. I think its just the combination of intimidation and ease of use for a beginner.
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    They shots usually arent lethal through walls/at greater distances.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    I agree the spread will be tighter in CQC, but its still going to have a bigger kill range than a pistol or rifle. I think its just the combination of intimidation and ease of use for a beginner.
    A 9mm will put anyone down just as good as anything else.

    If multiple people come, more capacity and being able to fire in quicker secession with minimal recoil is going to help a lot.
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    Originally Posted by Trinity1216 View Post
    Because you don't need a permit to own a shotgun. And a lot easier to use I guess.

    Personally like you said it would not be optimal in tight places so it's not my first choice, rather my shield any day over a shotgun. Plus we have guns hidden around the house so no matter what level of the home we are in, there is a weapon we can get to fairly easy
    Fair enough. In my state you don't need a license to purchase a handgun though.
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    Fair enough. In my state you don't need a license to purchase a handgun though.

    Lucky Man then Also you don't have to be as accurate with a shotgun. With a gun you need to practice, make sure you can hit your target. I know a few people that have never shot a weapon in their lives but have shotguns. I always laugh because one friend is soooooo unaware of weapons but has a shotgun, I asked her do you even know how to load it?
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    A 9mm will put anyone down just as good as anything else.

    If multiple people come, more capacity and being able to fire in quicker secession with minimal recoil is going to help a lot.
    I'm not disagreeing with you at all on this. But for someone who is inexperienced with guns ( not to mention a high tension situation) they have a better chance at hitting something with a shotgun than a semi auto when in panic mode.

    I'm with you though that they are long/clumsy and a handgun would be much more useful assuming you know how to use it.
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    Can't say I've seen many swat teams use shotguns, seems like most use MP5s or UMPs. So I guess that's the answer, preferred weapon for home defense is a submachine gun.

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    They shots usually arent lethal through walls/at greater distances.

    Best answer here. Also, measure out the longes straight possible shots in your house, I doubt you have any clear 30 foot paths through your house....unless your in some sort of mansion or maybe a big ass ranch style house.

    However, if you get on firearms boards, it seems like most people prefer their pistol of choice next to the bed and then their shotgun.
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    Can't say I've seen many swat teams use shotguns, seems like most use MP5s or UMPs. So I guess that's the answer, preferred weapon for home defense is a submachine gun.

    Too bad Ronald Reagan banned USA citizens from owning them
    Yeah an MP5 with an double mag would be the best thing for self defense. Those things have basically no recoil at all.

    What's even worse is the Hughes amendment didn't even pass legally =/


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    It looks and sounds intimidating, and it's easier and safer to use for less experienced shooters.
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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    my preferred weapon

    Is that your pooch??

    What a beautiful dog. I always have wanted a pure bread shepherd. Smartest dogs on this planet IMO.
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    cuz its a fukin n00b weapon for n00bs without aim, real pros only use glock or USP and get instant headshot brah

    edit: personally I only use m4 with n00btube attached, if I hear the doorknob go, instant *FLOMP* and my entire entrance is bombed to peaces

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    Originally Posted by rootcon View Post
    Can't say I've seen many swat teams use shotguns, seems like most use MP5s or UMPs. So I guess that's the answer, preferred weapon for home defense is a submachine gun.

    Too bad Ronald Reagan banned USA citizens from owning them

    You can still buy semi-auto ones?
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    Originally Posted by AndYUKnowThis View Post
    You can still buy semi-auto ones?
    A semi-auto HK MP5 is like $5,000
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    I agree the spread will be tighter in CQC, but its still going to have a bigger kill range than a pistol or rifle. I think its just the combination of intimidation and ease of use for a beginner.
    Nothing is easier to use than a glock
    Point and pull

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    Was wrestling with my friend in the house and she came charging and bit him in the leg and dragged him a few feet lol
    Till I called her name and she sat next to me
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    Because people are ignorant to the fact that there are just as good, if not better options.
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