Which improves overall strength more squats or deads or is there something besides those two exercises that does?
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Thread: Squats vs. Deadlifts.
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08-25-2012, 12:27 AM #1
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08-25-2012, 01:35 AM #2
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08-25-2012, 01:37 AM #3
I'd say deadlifts work more overall full body strength.
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08-25-2012, 01:41 AM #4
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08-25-2012, 01:41 AM #5
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08-25-2012, 03:47 AM #6
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08-25-2012, 07:07 AM #7
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08-25-2012, 11:08 AM #8
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08-25-2012, 03:17 PM #9
Both exercises have there perks for each individual. The best part about squats is you can do a lot of different variations in order to target certain areas. Both will work out the entire body and get the muscles pumping. Deadlifts are a very power lift that will also work well with grip strength. Both of these exercises should be placed in any persons training program to help gain the progress they are looking for.
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08-25-2012, 04:30 PM #10
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08-25-2012, 04:32 PM #11
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08-25-2012, 06:07 PM #12
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08-25-2012, 06:17 PM #13
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08-25-2012, 07:40 PM #14
i dont think most of you realize which section of the forum this is in, seeing that this is in the sports performance thread, its squats plain and simple. If this were in the powerlifting section it would be deadlifts. For athletic performance squats are king, someone on the misc pointed out before squats are the performance builder and deadlifts are the performance stabilizer, to run faster you have to squat explosively, when you stall deadlifts help overcome posterior imbalances to allow the front to continue to become more explosive. but for overall strength only, deadlifts yes. Or hell both either way!
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08-25-2012, 09:04 PM #15
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08-25-2012, 11:54 PM #16
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08-26-2012, 10:42 AM #17
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08-26-2012, 01:12 PM #18
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08-26-2012, 01:19 PM #19
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08-26-2012, 04:44 PM #20
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08-26-2012, 07:38 PM #21
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08-26-2012, 09:38 PM #22
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08-27-2012, 12:51 AM #23
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I'd go for squats from a purely strength for sports standpoint. The reason being that squats allow for a much greater ROM for the leg muscles whereby they are developed far more than in the deadlift and leg strength (as opposed to less leg and perhaps more lower back strength from the deadlift) is probably more important in most sports. Plus having a big squat also requires one to have a strong back since otherwise you won't be squatting that weight at all.
Conclusion: I think a nice full squat is a bit more useful for athletic strength and conditioning than a deadlift. However this is only when comparing one to the other: the deadlift is still a very good and important exercise.
I train at a gym where we get a lot of national and international level track and field athletes, including Olympic level shot putters and discus throwers and they do a lot of squatting but I don't think I've ever seen them do a traditional deadlift.Strength + Speed = Power
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08-27-2012, 11:03 AM #24
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08-28-2012, 04:48 PM #25
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08-28-2012, 08:19 PM #26
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08-29-2012, 03:57 AM #27
Both are great, I do them on separate days to keep progression going, but I personally feel that the Squat would be better for gaining overall strength because if you were to pick only one of the two exercises and do it for 3 months straight, your deadlift would be much higher after increasing your squat than your squat would be after increasing your deads (if that makes sense). I find that the squat has better crossover to the dead while this relationship is not exactly vice versa
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08-29-2012, 10:08 AM #28
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08-30-2012, 10:14 AM #29
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08-30-2012, 10:43 AM #30
Deadlifts. If I had to choose one, no doubt at all. Especially if you squat back nice before you lift... you still use your quads quite a bit. There are also variations like snatch grip, wide grip, platform deadlifts that would hit your quads even more. Deads along with cardio are all ive been doing for legs lately.
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