The 9-5 rat race is the easiest and most stress-free lifestyle

[Rupert IV]

With a few conditions:

1) that you at least see the value of your work, even if you don't necessarily enjoy it on a day-to-day basis
2) that you are good at your job and thus respected by colleagues and therefore don't have to deal with ****ty bosses
3) that you actually like the area in which you live/work
4) that you have a spacious and well-positioned desk

brb guaranteed pay check, no money worries, can make long term financial commitments and realistic plans for the future without losing sleep over them

brb not even working particularly hard, 8/9 hours in a day, 1/1.5 hour break, 1/2 hours not doing much, 2/3 hours 'networking' 4/5 actually working if that

brb flexi time means you can take friday afternoons off as long as you make it up elsewhere which you never do

brb weekends/holidays where you can completely switch off and enjoy your monies

brb office chicks

brb office mates, most people in similar situation allows strong no-homo bonding with in-jokes, banter and general frivolity

brb consistant routine allows you to micromanage your free time which means you get more out of it than when free time is in abundance, which is particularly beneficial for the gym


I speak from experience. I was your typical early-20s existential crisis *******. I saved some money and went travelling around the world for two years. Started a business from south east asia. Was absolute fking heaven until I started realising that if this was going to last I needed to build a long term financially viable business. And that's when **** started to get stressful.

brb never, ever able to switch off from business

brb after a while normal customers are worse than even the most horrible bosses

brb not able to make any long term financial commitments, having to be super careful because of never knowing how much money I would have the next month

brb can't take holidays and when you get the odd hour off you're always worrying, can never switch off at all

brb no time for any social life or gym


Of course there is a middle ground. The middle ground involves becoming a professional at something and then starting a business based on years of knowledge and experience in the industry. Examples include accountants/lawyers setting up own practice, electricians, plumbers etc setting up small business. But this will still involve considerably more stress and insecurity than the 9-5, and you will still have had to do the 9-5 for a long time beforehand anyway.

Point is that any ******* on the misc who thinks that one day he's just going to suddenly come up with an idea for a business which will make millions and allow him to live this four-hour-workweek lifestyle is kidding himself and putting his future self at great risk of a crap life. Don't do it to yourself. Instead concentrate on working towards satisfying points 1, 2 & 3 above. Find a career you see value in, get well qualified, move somewhere you like, enjoy.

[BeastWithin]

fuk bitches get money

[FutureMiscCEO]

Read some Nietzsche bro.



Abandoning comfort is what gives true fulfillment.

I pity the people who are addicted to the religion of comfortness.

[EnderG60]

no its not, it blows

[joat]

Agreed

9-5 is the good life, brb working in downtown toronto financial district, most amazing scenery right outside my window, hot chicks everywhere on the streets, brb 2 hour lunch breaks with bros working at other firms, brb bosses are cool, brb work for huge sports organization, brb no traffic - take train to work and get to sleep/read newspaper during my commute.... brb too many benefits to list

[F23]

Agreed. Beats out almost everything else, even if it is mundane.

[NWDub]

So a 9-5 is great, if it's great.


Great.

[HollywoodBody]

lol have fun w/ that

no risk = no reward.

if you play it safe you probably won't completely fail and fall on your ass. i'll give you that. But you only get 1 shot at life. why be a pussy and play it safe? you could achieve greatness

[HGM1989]

I want more than that.

[ReecesNikka]

Interesting OP. Beats working in a manual labor job barely able to provide food for yourself, that's for sure.

[nontansto]

agreed & repped.

some of the people on this forum are delusional. half of them think they are going to make 10k/day as a personal trainer and the rest think they are going to start their own business online and make millions within a few years lol

[grapebrah]

Sorry thats not true.

Having no schedule is best. I'm most of my time not working but if I work I'm travelling for 5 days through germany and teach high school kids about the european union and I make 80-150euros a day for it.
Working like 1 week a month gives me enough money for my cheap lifestyle and I can do whatever the phuck I want beacause I can chill for like 3 weeks every month.

I hated it to work from 8-16 when I had a job. A tight schedule is death for me.

[Merauder]

ain't that the truth?
No

[PrisonBrah]

Working for someone else, making someone else rich, being told what to do stresses me out.

My 6am to 6pm is not stress free.

[Insanityxx]

if you're happy then good job. The way i see things, life is meant to experience stuff and have fun, and you're not doing any of that by working each day errday with a few days off and vacations in between. When you'll be called grandpa, rocking in a chair or lying on a hospital bed, you won't be thinking of how much fun those days of work were.

[The Experiment]

Miscer at age 20: brb loling at all of your losers with your 9-5s. I'm going to be a millionaire someday.
Miscer at age 25: brb working at GNC for the closing shift. *Sees friends work a 9-5 making $40,000 a year* Oh well, **** him. I'm still going to be a millionaire.
Miscer at age 30: brb working at GNC as assistant store manager. *Sees friends work a 9-5 making $60,000 a year* I wish I had a 9-5.
Miscer at age 35: brb working at GNC as assistant store manager. *Sees friends work a 9-5 making $75,000 a year* Goodbye cruel world

[DrHughMyronBro]

Great post OP. So many lazy *******s whining about 9-5 and making excuses for not having jobs when really they are just lazy and poor.

brb "its my philosophy"

Couldn't agree more with your post.

[Beararms]

No thanks you can have that 9-5 crap. Not gonna be a sheep in society.

[stevesteve12]

you are literally a slave

[DrHughMyronBro]

if you're happy then good job. The way i see things, life is meant to experience stuff and have fun, and you're not doing any of that by working each day errday with a few days off and vacations in between. When you'll be called grandpa, rocking in a chair or lying on a hospital bed, you won't be thinking of how much fun those days of work were.

So you're gonna just not work and live in a box? Or are you going to work a ****tier job for MORE hours than a 9-5?

Brb making money
Brb using money to do things I couldn't do otherwise
Brb buying a house and a boat
Brb no financial stress
Brb you won't be able to afford a rocking chair or hospital bed when you're a grandpa

[GApump]

Seeing everyone talk **** to the OP of that 92k a year thread pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this forum. I carry my work home with me and it's definitely not 9-5, but I can appreciate your logic in respect to stability/routine, especially once you have a family.

[mattyoc3]

trap me at a desk for 40 hours a week and id be miserable regardless of circumstances

[Insanityxx]

So you're gonna just not work and live in a box? Or are you going to work a ****tier job for MORE hours than a 9-5?

Brb making money
Brb using money to do things I couldn't do otherwise
Brb buying a house and a boat
Brb no financial stress
Brb you won't be able to afford a rocking chair or hospital bed when you're a grandpa

the point is not "not to work", but rather do everything that's in your power, focus 100% on finding a way to bring value to society independent of an employer. OP did just that, and when **** started to get hard he quit, and now settled for a mediocre job with a mediocre payment.

work as hard and as smart as you can when you're young, create something big, sell it, live the rest of your life as a free man
this is just my vision and my philosophy

[DrHughMyronBro]

Seeing everyone talk **** to the OP of that 92k a year thread pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this forum. I carry my work home with me and it's definitely not 9-5, but I can appreciate your logic in respect to stability/routine, especially once you have a family.

Exactly. In reality many of these people are jealous. Not saying everyone, but a lot of you are just jealous of people who have worked hard and smart and earned more money than you. People try to rationalize being poor by saying they had more fun.

"I've been rich and I've been poor and being rich is WAY better" -A business professor I had

[newtmiscer]

sounds like your business crashed and burned OP

[bking10]

It's the comfortable, safe, and easy route in life that creates the most regrets

[DrHughMyronBro]

the point is not "not to work", but rather do everything that's in your power, focus 100% on finding a way to bring value to society independent of an employer. OP did just that, and when **** started to get hard he quit, and now settled for a mediocre job with a mediocre payment.

work as hard and as smart as you can when you're young, create something big, sell it, live the rest of your life as a free man
this is just my vision and my philosophy

There are many careers with 50k starting salaries and 100k+ after 5+ years experience. That is better than mediocre. Mediocre is 30k

[HungAfricanMan]

Ignorance is bliss.

[FutureMiscCEO]

It's the comfortable, safe, and easy route in life that creates the most regrets

Quoted for truth.

[Fit1NYC]

What specific fields offer this?