creatine-HCL vs. monohydrate

[BunkMoreland]

This. You can be as anti-supplement as you want, and in many respects I don't blame you, but I don't see why you'd ever resist buying a dirt cheap monohydrate supplement unless you get steak for some absurdly low price.

agreed

[SoulZeppelin]

agreed

+3

I eat chicken much more often than beef as well, so its absurdly cheap insurance. I figure, worst case, I absorb none of the $0.05 creatine each day. Best case I maintain saturation levels of phosphocreatine.

[TomBremner]

3rd day of creatine mono at about 7.5 grams a day. is roughly 5 pounds of intracellular water abnormal?

[BunkMoreland]

3rd day of creatine mono at about 7.5 grams a day. is roughly 5 pounds of intracellular water abnormal?

why 7.5 grams? you loading? if you were (which im not saying you should) loading, you should probably be around 20 grams a day for 5 days. if you were taking 7.5 grams as your everyday maintenance, you are taking about twice as much as you need.

as for the initial water weight gain, that's inevitable. drink sufficient water throughout the day

[snorkelman]

why 7.5 grams? you loading? if you were (which im not saying you should) loading, you should probably be around 20 grams a day for 5 days. if you were taking 7.5 grams as your everyday maintenance, you are taking about twice as much as you need.

as for the initial water weight gain, that's inevitable. drink sufficient water throughout the day

Agreed. Also, don't worry about weight gain for the next few weeks. Just keep your caloric intake and caloric expenditure the same as it has been pre-creatine. IME weight gain of 4-5 pounds is typical, but that usually takes places as your body is holding more water. With 7.5 grams per day I would not expect you to have gained 5 pounds in 3 days. This is partly why I say to forget daily monitoring of the scale, because if you drink 16 ounces of water, the scale will reflect 1 pound weight gain.

[TomBremner]

why 7.5 grams? you loading? if you were (which im not saying you should) loading, you should probably be around 20 grams a day for 5 days. if you were taking 7.5 grams as your everyday maintenance, you are taking about twice as much as you need.

as for the initial water weight gain, that's inevitable. drink sufficient water throughout the day

lost my scoop that came with it. the scoop for my bcaas with creatine weighs like 7.7G. so i just use a whole scoop. figure it at the price a little extra isnt a big deal.

[Mr.Cooper69]

lost my scoop that came with it. the scoop for my bcaas with creatine weighs like 7.7G. so i just use a whole scoop. figure it at the price a little extra isnt a big deal.

Yes, but it can cause troubling GI effects and bloating at higher doses, not to mention increased DHT.

[TomBremner]

Yes, but it can cause troubling GI effects and bloating at higher doses, not to mention increased DHT.

i'd like to avoid those. so what dose would you suggest?

[Mr.Cooper69]

i'd like to avoid those. so what dose would you suggest?

5g/day every day for the first month, 3g/day on workout days only thereafter.

[TomBremner]

5g/day every day for the first month, 3g/day on workout days only thereafter.

gotchya

[thecodgod]

so im still a litte unclear, does creatine cause extra water retention, or is that just a myth? if the retention is real will enough water combat it? i have a whole kilo of ON mono but i got off it because i wanted to hold less water, i never really knew if i was holding more water due to creatine but everyone around me seems to say it makes them retain more so i stopped. should i get back on and is it worth it or will getting back on give me that moon face look

[DDon1996]

not to mention increased DHT.

Wait wut.

[JasonDB]

I don't take creatine. You mad bro?

[jak3e1992]

Youtube: liftingforlife....creatine.



One of the videos Ian has made that I truly like.

[TERMplus]

While being 100% too lazy to look a single thing up and blah blah blah, don't you have to eat like 3lbs of beef to get the amount of creatine in a 3g scoop/serving?

Where's the problem? lol

Wait wut.

As if that's a bad thing...Long live DHT.

[midcoastking33]

so im still a litte unclear, does creatine cause extra water retention, or is that just a myth? if the retention is real will enough water combat it? i have a whole kilo of ON mono but i got off it because i wanted to hold less water, i never really knew if i was holding more water due to creatine but everyone around me seems to say it makes them retain more so i stopped. should i get back on and is it worth it or will getting back on give me that moon face look

It causes water retention but not subcutaneous unless it's either a really crappy company or if you take too much

[ErickStevens]

I love me some creatine. 5g of mono errday.