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    Why is Marijuana banned from mma?

    It is not like it will get you bigger, stronger, faster like the roid.

    It is a medicine, fighters get to use advil which kills but not marijuana which doesn't kill. What if a ufc fighter has a medical card.. Does he get banned from the ufc as well? Serious topic.

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    hmmmm not sure but that

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    I know a guy training in a MMA gym atm and he said guys don't really like to drink but all smoke

    weird

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    I imagine it is a safety concern and the commision doesn't want to risk you getting hurt from intoxication from any substance(alcohol, weed, etc). Obviously a fighter may just use it as pain relief and smoked a month ago but I imagine the commission can't pinpoint when you smoked last. Also has anyone ever actually been nailed for medicinal marijuana in MMA? and I don't meen Nick Diaz I meen legit perscribed marijuana.

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    Nobody thinks its because its illegal for anyone outside of mma?
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    Originally Posted by sinfiery View Post
    I know a guy training in a MMA gym atm and he said guys don't really like to drink but all smoke

    weird
    it relaxes the nerves, increases hydration due to combatting cotton mouth unlike alcohol which dehydrates you and gives you hangovers and bloat.

    The only concern would be lung capacity from too much of it, and munchies when trying to make weight.

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    Probably the same reason ******* and heroin are: they're illegal.
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    Originally Posted by ChaelSonnen View Post
    It is not like it will get you bigger, stronger, faster like the roid.

    It is a medicine, fighters get to use advil which kills but not marijuana which doesn't kill. What if a ufc fighter has a medical card.. Does he get banned from the ufc as well? Serious topic.
    because it is a controlled substance dip****

    you on that now, too?

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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    Probably the same reason ******* and heroin are: they're illegal.
    Not in California, the commission needs to show another reason for banning them if the fighter has a script for it. They might be classifying it as a pain killer (in addition to intoxication/safety).

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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    because it is a controlled substance dip****

    you on that now, too?
    Bra YOU ARE ****ING RETARDED MARIJUANA IS NOT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. ITS A ****ING PLANT, YOU STUPID NOOB.
    Advil = controlled substance
    Heroin = controlled substance
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    Marijuana = A ****ING PLANT, WHAT CHEMICAL MOTHER****ING PROCESS DOES MARIJUANA GO THROUGH YOU ****ING RETARD. ALL THEY DO IS CUT, DRY IT OUT, AND SMOKE IT.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    Bra YOU ARE ****ING RETARDED MARIJUANA IS NOT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. ITS A ****ING PLANT, YOU STUPID NOOB.
    Advil = controlled substance
    Heroin = controlled substance
    ***** = controlled substance
    Crack = controlled substance
    ******* = controlled substance
    Marijuana = A ****ING PLANT, WHAT CHEMICAL MOTHER****ING PROCESS DOES MARIJUANA GO THROUGH YOU ****ING RETARD. ALL THEY DO IS CUT, DRY IT OUT, AND SMOKE IT.
    it is a controlled substance

    a plant is a substance

    pls go-------->

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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    Bra YOU ARE ****ING RETARDED MARIJUANA IS NOT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. ITS A ****ING PLANT, YOU STUPID NOOB.
    Advil = controlled substance
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    Marijuana = A ****ING PLANT, WHAT CHEMICAL MOTHER****ING PROCESS DOES MARIJUANA GO THROUGH YOU ****ING RETARD. ALL THEY DO IS CUT, DRY IT OUT, AND SMOKE IT.
    Lol. So are coca and opium poppy. Here is a minblowing concept for you: whether a substance needs to be controlled or not doesn't depend on its method of production.

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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    it is a controlled substance

    a plant is a substance

    pls go-------->
    ****ING IDIOT. JUST BECAUSE ITS A SUBSTANCE DOES NOT MEAN ITS CONTROLLED. If marijuana was a controlled substance, than wouldn't you get a possession of a controlled substance charge instead of a possession of marijuana charge?
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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    Lol. So are coca and opium poppy. Here is a minblowing concept for you: whether a substance needs to be controlled or not doesn't depend on its method of production.
    Actually, a controlled substance is defined by changing the chemical structure of said drug. Thus creating a controlled substance. What chemical changes are made during the growing, curing, and smoking stages of marijuana? ZRO The Crooked AKA king of the ghetto.
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    Originally Posted by bobsamby View Post
    I imagine it is a safety concern and the commision doesn't want to risk you getting hurt from intoxication from any substance(alcohol, weed, etc). Obviously a fighter may just use it as pain relief and smoked a month ago but I imagine the commission can't pinpoint when you smoked last. Also has anyone ever actually been nailed for medicinal marijuana in MMA? and I don't meen Nick Diaz I meen legit perscribed marijuana.
    Why exclude Nick Diaz? He has a script for his herbage.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    Actually, a controlled substance is defined by changing the chemical structure of said drug. Thus creating a controlled substance. What chemical changes are made during the growing, curing, and smoking stages of marijuana? ZRO The Crooked AKA king of the ghetto.
    Who defines a controlled substance that way? your fellow brain dead teens in the local hemp oriented message board? Controlled means controlled by an authority (i.e. the government). In US it is also a legal term that refers to the the substances covered under the Controlled Substances Act. Here is the list of controlled substance recognized by US DOJ and sure enough marijuana is in it. Not only that but some of the individual chemical compounds in the plant are listed separately as well. Capiche?

    Not as far as the "structure of the drug" is concerned, you are dead wrong again. Morphine, which I am sure what is left of your brain can comprehend, is a controlled substance. It is also present in it exact chemical form in the opium poppy. Needless to say it is highly addictive like heroin (which is indeed a synthetic drug, i.e. the plant does not produce it). Opium dens served various different forms of "the good stuff" by doing nothing ore than "growing,curing and smoking" the plant. Hordes of people got their addictions that way. Nations went to war to be able to ban or sell that sh!t so it was controlled even 150 years ago.

    *******, in its exact chemical form is present in coca leaves. Both coca and opium poppy cultivation are heavily controlled around the world.

    Anyway, I'll stop now because you sound and look a few years younger than 19 and I don't want to be the next monster cyber bully.

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    Simple reason why it is banned:

    With weed being allowed, we'd see every g&p attempt end in a teary-eyed hugfest. Goddamn hippies.
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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    Who defines a controlled substance that way? your fellow brain dead teens in the local hemp oriented message board? Controlled means controlled by an authority (i.e. the government). In US it is also a legal term that refers to the the substances covered under the Controlled Substances Act. Here is the list of controlled substance recognized by US DOJ and sure enough marijuana is in it. Not only that but some of the individual chemical compounds in the plant are listed separately as well. Capiche?

    Not as far as the "structure of the drug" is concerned, you are dead wrong again. Morphine, which I am sure what is left of your brain can comprehend, is a controlled substance. It is also present in it exact chemical form in the opium poppy. Needless to say it is highly addictive like heroin (which is indeed a synthetic drug, i.e. the plant does not produce it). Opium dens served various different forms of "the good stuff" by doing nothing ore than "growing,curing and smoking" the plant. Hordes of people got their addictions that way. Nations went to war to be able to ban or sell that sh!t so it was controlled even 150 years ago.

    *******, in its exact chemical form is present in coca leaves. Both coca and opium poppy cultivation are heavily controlled around the world.

    Anyway, I'll stop now because you sound and look a few years younger than 19 and I don't want to be the next monster cyber bully.
    sure kid, you should research how marijuana is produced bra.
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    Originally Posted by fatbencher View Post
    Simple reason why it is banned:

    With weed being allowed, we'd see every g&p attempt end in a teary-eyed hugfest. Goddamn hippies.
    That is absolutely retarded and not in the least bit funny.

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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    sure kid, you should research how marijuana is produced bra.
    Oh you are tucking your tail between your legs and running away? Here is your chance to prove me wrong. You'll have to do better than "sure kid" though. Where do you get your definition of a controlled substance? What is the difference between how marijuana is produced and how opium is produced ? Should people be allowed to smoke opium freely too ? Don't forget to include links and attempt to make a coherent argument.

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    That is absolutely retarded and not in the least bit funny.
    Thanks for reminding me: I forgot to mention illogical emotional outbursts.
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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    Oh you are tucking your tail between your legs and running away? Here is your chance to prove me wrong. You'll have to do better than "sure kid" though. Where do you get your definition of a controlled substance? What is the difference between how marijuana is produced and how opium is produced ? Should people be allowed to smoke opium freely too ? Don't forget to include links and attempt to make a coherent argument.

    Don't run away homie, don't be scared.
    A controlled substance is when you take a naturally occuring substance, and alter it chemically to create a desired substance. For instance, opiates derive from the poppy plant. You can find it in a hydrocodone pill you get at the dentist or in black tar heroin. Marijuana is found naturally, and cured so that it will burn better. But it is as it exists in nature.
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    Originally Posted by fatbencher View Post
    Thanks for reminding me: I forgot to mention illogical emotional outbursts.
    Lol naw bro. Illogical emotional outburst? You really are retarded. haha

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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    A controlled substance is when you take a naturally occuring substance, and alter it chemically to create a desired substance. For instance, opiates derive from the poppy plant. You can find it in a hydrocodone pill you get at the dentist or in black tar heroin. Marijuana is found naturally, and cured so that it will burn better. But it is as it exists in nature.
    How did you come up with this?

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    Originally Posted by Gorac View Post
    How did you come up with this?
    I have been to many drug education classes due to my habit. You learn things, even if you don't want to.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    ****ING IDIOT. JUST BECAUSE ITS A SUBSTANCE DOES NOT MEAN ITS CONTROLLED. If marijuana was a controlled substance, than wouldn't you get a possession of a controlled substance charge instead of a possession of marijuana charge?
    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    I have been to many drug education classes due to my habit. You learn things, even if you don't want to.
    More of my taxpayer dollars wasted, bc you haven't learned anything clearly. Controlled is a legal term, not a descriptive one.

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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    Not in California, the commission needs to show another reason for banning them if the fighter has a script for it. They might be classifying it as a pain killer (in addition to intoxication/safety).
    Because that's not the case in other states, and they have to have the rules be consistent across the board.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    A controlled substance is when you take a naturally occuring substance, and alter it chemically to create a desired substance.
    Dude, I already posted a link for the list of controlled substances recognized by the US department of justice. Apparently that was too complex so I'll break it down and walk you through it. Here is the relevant page from DoJ website:

    http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/

    Click on the link for the alphabetical list of controlled substances. I am not going to assume that you have the cognitive abilities to do it on your own so I'll also give you the direct link :

    http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/sc...c_cs_alpha.pdf

    What is the title of that document? "Controlled substances". Now go to the seventh page or just search for "marijuana" in that document.It is already listed.

    Now, try to explain why your definition is inconsistent with an official document from US DoJ. Can it be because you misunderstood it in the class? If you are right, surely there must be sources that you can reference (links please, not "they told me that it wasn't controlled", you were also once told that Santa brought you gifts every year).

    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    For instance, opiates derive from the poppy plant. You can find it in a hydrocodone pill you get at the dentist or in black tar heroin. Marijuana is found naturally, and cured so that it will burn better. But it is as it exists in nature.
    Opiates are already contained in the opium poppy. That is the reason why they are called opiates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate

    Originally Posted by Wiki
    In medicine, the term opiate describes any of the narcotic opioid alkaloids found as natural products in the opium poppy plant
    Capiche? Opiates are already found as natural products inside poppy plant. Just to drive this point further, lets look at the facts about morphine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphine

    Originally Posted by Wiki
    Morphine is generally 8 to 17 percent of the dry weight of opium, although specially-bred cultivars reach 26 percent or produce little morphine at all, under 1 percent, perhaps down to 0.04 percent.
    Get that ? You don't need to "chemically alter" poppy extract to obtain morphine. It is already in there with a high concentration inside the "juice" of the poppy flower, it doesn't get any natural than that. Sure enough opium and opium poppy (the plant itself) are listed separately in the list of controlled substances. Since we can't be sure that you'll be able to find the link at the beginning of this post , I'll be courteous and paste it again : http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/sc...c_cs_alpha.pdf . Go to page 9 and find "opium extracts" as well as "opium poppy"(i.e. the plant).

    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    I have been to many drug education classes due to my habit. You learn things, even if you don't want to.
    Don't be sad my friend, it looks like you didn't want to learn things and you succeeded to a large extent to keep your melon as empty as possible.

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