What is gonna more benefit me with my sport for hockey, havent tried the front squat, but have been doing the back squat for a bit over 6 months, currently at 205 5x5, was just wondering what will benefit me more? front squat or back squat.. Thank you for help!!
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09-01-2011, 10:16 PM #1
Front Squat vs Back Squat, what will benefit me?
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09-01-2011, 10:34 PM #2
I would say phasing in both would not be a bad thing... not sure your set up, but if you did backsquats once a week and front squats on another day, that could benefit you a lot.
I've found that back squats are great for leg development first, and will generate a lot of strength in your lower body while still requiring balance and coordination ini your upper body. With front squats, I push a slightly smaller weight, but find that it recruits more upper body stability, which is definitely a plus in hockey. I have read in functional sport training books that, after adequate training in both, most athletes can front squat 85-90% of their 1rm back squat. I'd say, throw it in your workout!Began training: 09/2010
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09-01-2011, 10:53 PM #3
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09-02-2011, 09:57 AM #10
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Machines are inferior to free weights for athletic training for various reasons, such as locking you into a predetermined plane of motion and not involving the use of stabilizers.
DB squats severely restrict the load you are able to squat.
Neither would be a better choice than front squats or back squats, nor will either recruit more muscle than BB squats, of either the front or back variety.http://youtube.com/user/Kiknskreem
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09-02-2011, 10:10 AM #11
Oh you never heard of a BB hack squat? lol
DB squats severely restrict the load you are able to squat.
Neither would be a better choice than front squats or back squats, nor will either recruit more muscle than BB squats, of either the front or back variety.
Both recruit more stabilizing muscles than the back squat.IIFYM is super duper smart: "I just had 10 beers and hit my daily carb intake."
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09-02-2011, 03:03 PM #12
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09-02-2011, 04:14 PM #13
Probably cycle them. If you're on a premade program (starting strength or a 5x5) just do your back squats. If you're making up your own stuff, spend a couple weeks (I prefer about 4) on back squats, then switch to front squats. I find back squats awesome for maximal force generation, because you can use such a heavier load with backsquats than fronts. But front squats are awesome in their own way, because they seem to (at least for me) totally fry the upper back and core.
It's tough to say if one is better than the other, because they need to be cycled in their own way that's right for you. For me, for example, I'll probably use up the rest of the year focusing on back squats with starting strength. Come January or Feb, I'll probably end up switching to Texas Method where I'll be back squatting, but still front squatting 1-2 times a week.
Point being, figure out which of the two seems to give greater results for you and run with it.
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09-02-2011, 08:48 PM #14
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09-03-2011, 07:41 AM #16
No, just no.
1. My gym has dummbells up to about 130lbs, 200lbs would be ridiculous unless you're a pro bodybuilder
2. EXRX has more than enough errors in it and I only use it because the GIFs are helpful
3. EXRX is not an authority (I made the same mistake when I first saw it)
4. Hack squats require no stability and it's obvious just from the way the exercise is performed, dumbbells squats are nothing more than deadlifts
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09-03-2011, 07:48 AM #17
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09-04-2011, 10:15 AM #18
Yes.
They have Curves in the UK? I hope you take full advantage of your membership and hit the post-partum depression group after you do 20 sets of abs and your fasted steady-state cardio.
And really, nothing more than deadlifts? How stupid can you be?IIFYM is super duper smart: "I just had 10 beers and hit my daily carb intake."
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09-04-2011, 10:26 AM #19
you're an idiot. stop regurgitating random **** you read on the internet that's false
OP, can't hurt to alternate. why not get best of both worlds? i'd do more backsquats than frontsquats though. maybe one front squat session for every 2 backsquat sessions. you could easily squat 3x a week. mon- backsquat, wed-frontsquat, fri-backsquat
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09-04-2011, 11:50 AM #23
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Both lifts begin in a relatively neutral stance with the load hanging from the arms with palms facing in. To complete each lift, the lifter will extend their knees and their hips until they are upright. Forces are generated by the legs and hips and are transmitted through the rigid trunk to lift the load.
Please explain your assertion that the lifts are not essentially the same, with the primary difference being RoM and load.
I look forward to your analysis, as the more you post the more clear your ignorance becomes to those who might not be so well informed.
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09-04-2011, 01:43 PM #24
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squatting 3+ times a week is far from mental. its crazy but its been done and has been proven effective.
DB squats = hex/ diamond bar DLs
In my travels I have YET to see one facility that made the effort and justified purchasing dumbbells that cost over $300 a piece (not including shipping of something as such) when a decent bar and plates will do the trick.ACE-PT, NSCA, USATF-1
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09-06-2011, 12:56 AM #29
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Muscles create motion by doing one thing, contracting, ie pulling. Push and Pull are not valid biomechanical concepts, just terms that laypeople use.
DB squats and Trap bar deads = knee and hip extension with an upright back and load held in the hands. The differences, as I already explained, are the load and RoM. The lifts are essentially the same, as previously explained.
Right now, without any weight, mime a DB squat. Now mime a trap bar dead. If this conclusion still escapes you, you're beyond help.
As for trap bar deads working "mainly hams," the entire point of the trap bar is forcing the back into a more vertical position, thus shifting load from the posterior chain to the quads.
You are an idiot and I rest my case.Last edited by Kiknskreem; 09-06-2011 at 01:06 AM.
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