Too Load or Not too Load

[bad4ego]

These aren't theories, they're studies. You are wrong about creapure's degradation, period.

even so what about optimal insulin spike if he plans to use it post workout as I mentioned? upset stomach? are there no studies quoting the opposite? also I think we are missing the forest for the tree here.. ok lets say it doesnt break down (and yeah i will look into it since maybe I was misled into a false belief that it does)...my point is can some1 help out this guy rather than school grade his grammer! and by all means Im not bashing anyone, I think its cool fixing grammar as long as the question is answered..just giving my opinion trying to help...i used to be on this forum back when answers had more depth and much debate. maybe Im outta line... but hey..maybe i just learnt something new today!

[Mr.Cooper69]

even so what about optimal insulin spike if he plans to use it post workout as I mentioned? upset stomach? are there no studies quoting the opposite? also I think we are missing the forest for the tree here.. ok lets say it doesnt break down (and yeah i will look into it since maybe I was misled into a false belief that it does)...my point is can some1 help out this guy rather than school grade his grammer! and by all means Im not bashing anyone, I think its cool fixing grammar as long as the question is answered..just giving my opinion trying to help...i used to be on this forum back when answers had more depth and much debate. maybe Im outta line... but hey..maybe i just learnt something new today!

Optimal insulin spike?

I'm not sure where you're going with that run-on paragraph, but the bottom line is:

5g creatine everyday for the first month, at any time of day
3-5g creatine per workout day thereafter

[bad4ego]

Optimal insulin spike?

I'm not sure where you're going with that run-on paragraph, but the bottom line is:

5g creatine everyday for the first month, at any time of day
3-5g creatine per workout day thereafter

dont understand the run off paragragh (meaning)

You do realise we both agree on the non loading right? I just figure if he is asking about loading there is more he is not aware of !!!

[Mr.Cooper69]

dont understand the run off paragragh (meaning)

You do realise we both agree on the non loading right? I just figure if he is asking about loading there is more he is not aware of !!!

Ok gerge

[drxmn]

No loading... excess creatine will just be excreted. a.k.a. throwing your money away. Just stick with 3-5g/daily. It doesn't matter when you take it because it builds up over time, no immediate results.

on spread

[UOFLcards2011]

Optimal insulin spike?

I'm not sure where you're going with that run-on paragraph, but the bottom line is:

5g creatine everyday for the first month, at any time of day
3-5g creatine per workout day thereafter

So, 5g creatine everyday for the first month and then 3-5g creatine on JUST workout days (not off days) after the first month is over?

[Mr.Cooper69]

So, 5g creatine everyday for the first month and then 3-5g creatine on JUST workout days (not off days) after the first month is over?

That is correct. At your BW, do 5g on workout days.

[UOFLcards2011]

That is correct. At your BW, do 5g on workout days.

Thank you sir.

So no creaine on non workout days after the first month. Gotcha.

Oh, and I might still have those Life Force multis. Might not have thrown them out.

[Hyruliangoat]

even so what about optimal insulin spike if he plans to use it post workout as I mentioned? upset stomach? are there no studies quoting the opposite? also I think we are missing the forest for the tree here.. ok lets say it doesnt break down (and yeah i will look into it since maybe I was misled into a false belief that it does)...my point is can some1 help out this guy rather than school grade his grammer! and by all means Im not bashing anyone, I think its cool fixing grammar as long as the question is answered..just giving my opinion trying to help...i used to be on this forum back when answers had more depth and much debate. maybe Im outta line... but hey..maybe i just learnt something new today!

And he needs it post workout because..?

And the 'insulin spike" makes a miniscule difference. A good creatine is already bioavailable heck

[powercage]

We should seriously focus on whats important: How to get a giant chest

[Hyruliangoat]

We should seriously focus on whats important: How to get a giant chest

Decline bro decline all the pros swear by it

[XCriticalBenchX]

I never loaded, any love monohydrate. Personally, I find a drastic difference from 5g to 10g post-workout.. enough difference to the point where I would never take 5g ever again, but thats just me.

Mike

[powercage]

Decline bro decline all the pros swear by it

I actually really like decline, lol

[Hyruliangoat]

I actually really like decline, lol

Its overhyped and not worth the time imo. I had a long post in the teen section disproving it. Ill find it lol

[powercage]

Its overhyped and not worth the time imo. I had a long post in the teen section disproving it. Ill find it lol

Ill read it, but that's not something Ill change considering the benefits Ive had since incorporating it.


Broscience away!

[N4cer]

even so what about optimal insulin spike if he plans to use it post workout as I mentioned? upset stomach? are there no studies quoting the opposite? also I think we are missing the forest for the tree here.. ok lets say it doesnt break down (and yeah i will look into it since maybe I was misled into a false belief that it does)...my point is can some1 help out this guy rather than school grade his grammer! and by all means Im not bashing anyone, I think its cool fixing grammar as long as the question is answered..just giving my opinion trying to help ...i used to be on this forum back when answers had more depth and much debate. maybe Im outta line... but hey..maybe i just learnt something new today!

Now it's pretty well full of little 170-180lb runts that typically fall into 1 or more of 3 categories: supptards who rely upon the people taking their money to provide their education; sellouts (broke poor people who become "company rep" rather than keep their integrity); and parrots who just repeat what they hear despite there being no evidence to back their suggestions. You get the rare member who is truly realistic, experienced, and honest. But it's rare.

[N4cer]

Its overhyped and not worth the time imo. I had a long post in the teen section disproving it. Ill find it lol

Overhyped? What fools hype decline? That's a horrible movement. Very inefficient for muscle fiber recruitment.

[powercage]

Overhyped? What fools hype decline? That's a horrible movement. Very inefficient for muscle fiber recruitment.

Dorian Yates

[BogusForLife]

It was actually right before you "fixed" it lol


No need to load either. I don't bother loading anymore I still get the same results as if I had of loaded.

I am 99.9% sure he was poking fun at the OP's consistent use of the word. Everyone is too eager to correct everyone that sarcasm detection becomes obsolete.

"He might have been joking but I'd rather assume he was serious and correct him."

[SwolenONE]

Absolutely zero reason to load creatine, 5g a day will do you well, you could even get by with 3g if need be.

[Hyruliangoat]

Overhyped? What fools hype decline? That's a horrible movement. Very inefficient for muscle fiber recruitment.

yeah dorian swears by it lol. lots of people promote it when its stupid to do so. doesnt do crap.

[UOFLcards2011]

I am taking my creatine post-workout with my whey protein shake. Would I see any benefits if I took my creatine with grape juice instead of in my post-workout shake? Or mixing the grape juice in with my post-workout shake?

[Mr.Cooper69]

I am taking my creatine post-workout with my whey protein shake. Would I see any benefits if I took my creatine with grape juice instead of in my post-workout shake? Or mixing the grape juice in with my post-workout shake?

No man. Please stop bumping this thread and overthinking things.

[N4cer]

Dorian Yates

I've never seen him do anything I'd consider "hyping" it at all. Stating that he uses it, yes. Hyping it? That's a huge exaggeration.

[powercage]

I've never seen him do anything I'd consider "hyping" it at all. Stating that he uses it, yes. Hyping it? That's a huge exaggeration.

"A shallow decline press is much more effective than a bench press, as there is much more pec involvement."
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ng_insight.htm

"the most effective pec exercise" -Dorian Yates
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ood-guts-1.htm

I actually agree with Dorian from personal experience.


Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it didnt happen. I have no problem with you disagreeing with decline as being worthwhile, and I even admit that science may not be on my side with regards to decline. But I have anecdotally found it to be very beneficial and will continue to keep it in my routine (at the very least, placebo is a powerful tool)

[N4cer]

"A shallow decline press is much more effective than a bench press, as there is much more pec involvement." -Dorian Yates

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ng_insight.htm

Yup. Definitely nothing to consider hype. Support sure. Suggest yup. HYPE? Not in any form of "hype" in the English language.

I actually agree with Dorian from personal experience.


Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it didnt happen. I have no problem with you disagreeing with decline as being worthwhile, and I even admit that science may not be on my side with regards to decline. But I have anecdotally found it to be very beneficial and will continue to keep it in my routine (at the very least, placebo is a powerful tool)

Are you and I even reading the same thread? I in no way tried to talk anybody out of anything. And as for having a problem with it, heck that's not my problem if i you do or don't. Have a problem for all I care. It's like peeing on yourself... you're the only one who will feel it. If you like the decline do it. Means jack crap to me. I just wanted to know who was said to HYPE it. Apparently the correct answer is NOBODY.

[powercage]

Overhyped? What fools hype decline? That's a horrible movement. Very inefficient for muscle fiber recruitment.

Dorian Yates

I've never seen him do anything I'd consider "hyping" it at all. Stating that he uses it, yes. Hyping it? That's a huge exaggeration.

Yup. Definitely nothing to consider hype. Support sure. Suggest yup. HYPE? Not in any form of "hype" in the English language. I just wanted to know who was said to HYPE it. Apparently the correct answer is NOBODY.

"the most effective pec exercise"

-Dorian Yates
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ood-guts-1.htm


Game is in check

[N4cer]

I don't speak nettardese, so "game is in check" means nothing to me. But I guess it doesn't take much for you to believe something is being hyped. We apparently view hyping as two very different things. No biggie. View it as you wish. I'll do the same. Keep declining.

[Hyruliangoat]

"the most effective pec exercise"

-Dorian Yates
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ood-guts-1.htm


Game is in check

Did u read my extremely scientific findings??

[IamJonsCranium]

It was actually right before you "fixed" it lol


No need to load either. I don't bother loading anymore I still get the same results as if I had of loaded.

I was being sarcastic, as OP used too instead of to twice.

No man. Please stop bumping this thread and overthinking things.

Sorry for bumping this thread, lol. I saw I got negged and was like, wth did I get negged in this thread for? Wasn't even gspsilva that did it though.