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    Agree with what my trainer said?

    im on a mass gain program. Right now im doing 5x5 then 3-9 on isolation.
    I pick about 3-4 exercises per muscle group
    My split is chesttriiep/ BackBiceps/ Lats shoulders/ Core Legs


    You are doing way too many exercises in your workouts. You shouldn't be lifting for more than 1 hour at a time. You just don't have enough calories to burn in workouts that go longer than that unless you eat during your work outs. What I would do is change your rep range to reps of 12-15 for the next 6 weeks. You should pick 5 exercises for legs and do 4-5 sets on each exercise. Chest pick 3 and do 4 sets, shoulders pick 3, traps pick 1 and tri's 2 exercises. Back pick 4 exercises and 2 for bi's. Lift hard. If you are lifting too long at a time you just won't have good results. Trust me do this for the next 6 weeks. After 6 weeks come talk to me. Make sure you are eating right too.
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    Originally Posted by gopackgo74 View Post
    im on a mass gain program. Right now im doing 5x5 then 3-9 on isolation.
    I pick about 3-4 exercises per muscle group
    My split is chesttriiep/ BackBiceps/ Lats shoulders/ Core Legs


    You are doing way too many exercises in your workouts. You shouldn't be lifting for more than 1 hour at a time. You just don't have enough calories to burn in workouts that go longer than that unless you eat during your work outs. What I would do is change your rep range to reps of 12-15 for the next 6 weeks. You should pick 5 exercises for legs and do 4-5 sets on each exercise. Chest pick 3 and do 4 sets, shoulders pick 3, traps pick 1 and tri's 2 exercises. Back pick 4 exercises and 2 for bi's. Lift hard. If you are lifting too long at a time you just won't have good results. Trust me do this for the next 6 weeks. After 6 weeks come talk to me. Make sure you are eating right too.
    I agree on a lot of what he said. Some things he said that I would change/have a different opinion on is:
    Instead of doing 12-15 reps I would go to 6-8 reps on compounds movements, 8-10 reps on isolation movements, 10-12 reps on shaping lifts.
    I would also not be doing 5 sets on each exercise like he says. I would stick between the 3-4 set range.
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    Originally Posted by Palermo1 View Post
    I agree on a lot of what he said. Some things he said that I would change/have a different opinion on is:
    Instead of doing 12-15 reps I would go to 6-8 reps on compounds movements, 8-10 reps on isolation movements, 10-12 reps on shaping lifts.
    I would also not be doing 5 sets on each exercise like he says. I would stick between the 3-4 set range.
    Yup...

    Mass building often dictates less reps 6 minimum 12 max with weights that take you to failure or near it without spotter. The split seems OK with the body parts. Keep it to basic strength moves for each major muscle group, but you gotta work hard. Being in the gym doing 5+ sets for an hour or more is not what I'd recommend. Some people live in the gym, but 1 hr max for me. Diminished returns in gains, in my opinion, once the muscle is fully taxed...which you can accomplish in 3-4 sets, lower rep range, moving some weight...give it all you got for those reps. Most pro lifters keep it simple and focus on moving heavy weight, basic movements - rest, feed, repeat.
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    I've found some respond better to volume than others. If a person can handle 5x5 for each body part, go to it. I've known people who do german volume training and those who only do 3-4 sets per body part and had excellent results. It comes down to intensity of the workout and your diet.

    I disagree on the rep range of 12-15 though, as that is more endurance based. 8-10 is a better ranged, perhaps going as low as 6.
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    I think 1hr to 1hr 15min max time in gym so I agree there, but not for reason given.

    12-15 is usually for endurance as others stated. 6-10 is best for hypertrophy.
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