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    ultima vs assault

    Which do you guys prefer?
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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    Which do you guys prefer?
    If you like or "think" you have to be stimmed out to workout then Assault. If you need a break from stims or don't like them then Ultima. They are both solid, it just really comes down to if you want stims or not...
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    just going to buy both
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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    just going to buy both
    Even better!
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    Both are solid products, but one has stims and one does not.

    Ultima with 100-200mg caffeine and/or 25-50mg 1,3 >>> Assault.
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    ubt stack x 2 from ai's site,
    assault, sizeon x2, myo, triazole x2, some multi and fish oil caps just to save on shipping from grn. Gonna be a fun bulk. No ultima on grn
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    Originally Posted by stewseo View Post
    ubt stack x 2 from ai's site,
    assault, sizeon x2, myo, triazole x2, some multi and fish oil caps just to save on shipping from grn. Gonna be a fun bulk. No ultima on grn
    unforutnately, ultima is better than any of the supps on that list so it is worth buying is from another site
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    Ultima is the better product.

    But you cant really compare a stim vs a stimless pre workout.

    You will get incredible focus with Ultima.
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    Apples to oranges...

    Both are great.
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    Could you tell us why you want to know this particular comparison?

    Why did you narrow it down to these 2 and what are you looking for in the product?
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    A simple look at the label should make your decision that much easier.

    The two are not even in the same league
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    Originally Posted by JornT View Post
    Could you tell us why you want to know this particular comparison?

    Why did you narrow it down to these 2 and what are you looking for in the product?
    Well those are the two that come again and again in the best PreWO threads.

    Ultima is backed by the No Stim, No Prop blend, Science crew while assault had countless recommendation from good bro after a massive ad campain ... something like that.
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    never tried assault, but currently loving the focus/pump that I get from the combo of Ultima and P-Bol!!
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    I tried my friends ultima with a 200mg caffeine pill and I felt Assault worked better for me, plus assault tastes better.
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    Originally Posted by Pho3NiX View Post
    Well those are the two that come again and again in the best PreWO threads.

    Ultima is backed by the No Stim, No Prop blend, Science crew while assault had countless recommendation from good bro after a massive ad campain ... something like that.
    Since you listed No Stim as a + for Ultima, go with Ultima. Because the stim aspect could be the only selling point for Assualt in comparison to Ultima. Take that from somebody who is one of the most harsh Ultima critics.
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    I tried my friends ultima with a 200mg caffeine pill and I felt Assault worked better for me, plus assault tastes better.
    If I understand correctly, you tried Ultima once? Ultima is not an energy product (some report this though). If is not formulated to be tried once and convince the user right away. It is formulated for long term benefits, exactly the opposite of traditional stimmed products, who will perform worse over time.
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    Originally Posted by Pho3NiX View Post
    Well those are the two that come again and again in the best PreWO threads.

    Ultima is backed by the No Stim, No Prop blend, Science crew while assault had countless recommendation from good bro after a massive ad campain ... something like that.
    ^^^This

    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    I tried my friends ultima with a 200mg caffeine pill and I felt Assault worked better for me, plus assault tastes better.
    Taste > effectiveness of one use


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    Originally Posted by JornT View Post
    If I understand correctly, you tried Ultima once? Ultima is not an energy product (some report this though). If is not formulated to be tried once and convince the user right away. It is formulated for long term benefits, exactly the opposite of traditional stimmed products, who will perform worse over time.
    assault isn't really traditionally stimmed, all it has is a low dose of caffeine, assault is made to perform better over a longer period of time as well (CONCRET,creapure,beta alanine,citrulline malate,etc), and btw they are all at hefty doses as well.
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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
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    Taste > effectiveness of one use


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    actually I went by the focus, energy and pumps, I honestly think assault is better, even from my first use of assault. your opinion doesn't matter (you're a rep, and all your posts are like a line long).
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    actually I went by the focus, energy and pumps, I honestly think assault is better, even from my first use of assault. your opinion doesn't matter (you're a rep, and all your posts are like a line long).
    Oh lawd...

    Your post are remedial at best.

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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
    Oh lawd...

    Your post are remedial at best.

    Way to comprehend a formula faceless internet bro
    haha thanks for the laugh. and btw i thought reps aren't supposed to diss other product. i mentioned assault was better for me and the only way that can be true for you is because I went by the taste, lmfao? honestly you don't act like a rep at all, reporting your post to a mod.
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    assault isn't really traditionally stimmed, all it has is a low dose of caffeine,
    In that case Assault is worse than Ultima in every case.

    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    assault is made to perform better over a longer period of time as well (CONCRET,creapure,beta alanine,citrulline malate,etc), and btw they are all at hefty doses as well.
    1) Every preworkout has creatine, wow.
    2) What is the chronic effect of CM?
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    4) They are not all at hefty doses, CM is way behind beta-alanine at the label.
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    haha thanks for the laugh. and btw i thought reps aren't supposed to diss other product. i mentioned assault was better for me and the only way that can be true for you is because I went by the taste, lmfao? honestly you don't act like a rep at all, reporting your post to a mod.
    Cry?

    Did I "diss" it? No, I pointed out ultima was a superior product. Head back to the misc, where you can make dumbass threads like this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=131129783
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    Originally Posted by JornT View Post
    In that case Assault is worse than Ultima in every case.



    1) Every preworkout has creatine, wow.
    2) What is the chronic effect of CM?
    3) How would you know that there is a hefty dose of ingredients in it, it is a massive prop blend
    4) They are not all at hefty doses, CM is way behind beta-alanine at the label.
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    Originally Posted by JornT View Post
    In that case Assault is worse than Ultima in every case.



    1) Every preworkout has creatine, wow.
    2) What is the chronic effect of CM?
    3) How would you know that there is a hefty dose of ingredients in it, it is a massive prop blend
    4) They are not all at hefty doses, CM is way behind beta-alanine at the label.
    I've been told the mg amounts of some by the MP reps a while back, and they all sounded good, and of course every pwo has creatine, but most only have about 1g of creatine. Just by guessing I can tell that all of the assault's ingredients are dosed right, (totals out to a 30,000mg prop blend which is higher than ultima's ingredient mg total and assault has less ingredients than ultima so do the math? which one would you think has better dosed ingredients?)
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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    Let me try to act all smart when need be and copy you by saying your posts are remedial at best. Seriously you don't act like a rep, all you are doing is quoting people with your little one liners instead of actually posting real knowledge. I guess ultima hired you on the count of your post count and rep count being so high? (must be the only reason I can think of someone hiring you)
    Anyone that can successfully read an ingredient profile can easily see Ultima is superior is just about every way possible.

    Even though it is not stim based and assault is, it is pretty easy to see which is better. The focus and endurance from Ultima is matched by nothing I have tried. Literally would get tunnel vision in the gym.

    While I have not tried assault, it shouldnt even be in the same discussion.
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    Originally Posted by mikeonopiates View Post
    Let me try to act all smart when need be and copy you by saying your posts are remedial at best. Seriously you don't act like a rep, all you are doing is quoting people with your little one liners instead of actually posting real knowledge. I guess ultima hired you on the count of your post count and rep count being so high? (must be the only reason I can think of someone hiring you)
    You have kids, right? have any daughters? You're old enough to have daughters that would legally work at a strip club. How do you feel about your daughter dancing in very sexually suggestive manners in a seedy bar while wearing nothing but a garter and thrusting her open legs in the face of older men much like yourself who are thinking all of the dirty thoughts you think when you go there. Maybe some of them will cop a feel when putting a one dollar bill in her garter and say something quite raunchy and explicit to her describing how they would use her as a sex object to gratify their own selfish carnal pleasures. Their other hand is probably buried deep in their own pants.
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    Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut View Post
    You have kids, right? have any daughters? You're old enough to have daughters that would legally work at a strip club. How do you feel about your daughter dancing in very sexually suggestive manners in a seedy bar while wearing nothing but a garter and thrusting her open legs in the face of older men much like yourself who are thinking all of the dirty thoughts you think when you go there. Maybe some of them will cop a feel when putting a one dollar bill in her garter and say something quite raunchy and explicit to her describing how they would use her as a sex object to gratify their own selfish carnal pleasures. Their other hand is probably buried deep in their own pants.
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