4 Americans kidnapped by ****lian pirates

[SeanP35]

Bro...I don't even know who you are, but the fact remains:

I have posted sources, you have yet too. Show me these awesome uber vehicles and equipment these contractors get.

You posted nothing besides a random picture showing an SUV and 2 armed individuals. How you consider that a source I will never know.

I never said they have "awesome uber vehicles and equipment". You are very much mistaken if you don't think they are well armed. End of story. Argue it all you want, you're wrong. Have fun being wrong. You seem to enjoy it as this isn't the first time.

eh.... who knows.


people in the hood always the excuse "its the only option we have"

when i could buy some 10 dollar slacks, a 15 dollar shirt and 20 dollar shoes, apply at a full time McDonalds position and make enough to support myself, they just choose the easy way out.

Not saying they have the same opportunities that people in the bad parts of the US have but im saying people are full of sh!t, ill bet they could make a living Some way

The poorest people in the U.S. would be about equal to a 3rd World country on the 5 World model. The Republic of ****lia is a 5th World country.

[folly412]

[0xyg3n]

[Jattfusion]

Brb, going to the Indian ocean in my yacht like a dumbass.

Reminds me of the idiots who were hiking at the Iraq/Iran boarder.

Not as bad, but still fking stupid given the circumstances.

lol this, these bitches need to be left there for being a total dumb****ss, wasting tax money of their countries.

[rbforme]

You cant exactly blame the pirates. They have literally no other source of income and if they dont do this, then they would die. I would do the same thing if i were in their place and so would you probably.

Then why isn't every person in ****lia a pirate? They obviously have other choices.

I do feel slightly bad that they are probably no smarter than a 3rd grader here and have no idea what they are up against.

[Gator286]

"But the prison sentence given to Muse this week could have implications for the four American hostages. Pirates have turned increasingly violent in their attacks, and naval officials say pirates have begun systematically torturing hostages and using them as human shields."

"Pirates have recently tied hostages upside down and dragged them in the sea, locked them in freezers, beaten them and used plastic ties around their genitals, the commander of the European Union anti-piracy force, Maj. Gen. Buster Howes told AP this month. "

From another article. At some point, there will be a crackdown on piracy.

[nzgs]

Only a matter of time until they botch their rescue, maybe throwing grenades at the hostages again. Fail military is fail.

[Gator286]

Only a matter of time until they botch their rescue, maybe throwing grenades at the hostages again. Fail military is fail.

Aware me.

[oneandonlydwt]

remember what happened to Fallujah and Iraq in general?

^^^ This

[burlyman619]

stephen "scott" helvenston (june 21, 1965 – march 31, 2004) was a former united states navy seal, and worked as a security contractor for blackwater security when he was killed in the 31 march 2004 fallujah ambush within days of arriving in iraq.

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you suck at trolling as much as you do at life

[Fanatik]

Just do what the Russians did...

catch pirates
put pirates on their boats
send them on their way
blow up teh boat

/profit

[Bishamon]

Oh, I'm serious. We're not on the topic of NATO in the middle east you stupid *******, we're on the topic of ****li pirates. They're thieves and murderers, and for some reason, u mad. Still mad?

u really are as dumb as all phuck

[YIAMSOMEBODY]

Request granted: SEAL ACTIVATED

[Gator286]

u really are as dumb as all phuck

Go on...

[Bishamon]

Go on...

****li piracy is the product of a countries destabilization and the exploitation by western and eastern corporations who have added insult to injury. With further aggression the whole piracy deal will only get worse and worse.

[Water_American]

****li piracy is the product of a countries destabilization and the exploitation by western and eastern corporations who have added insult to injury. With further aggression the whole piracy deal will only get worse and worse.

Doesn't matter what its a product of, you unbelievably stupid mother fuker. They rob and kill innocent people..that makes them thieves and murderers. Sorry, but thats the brakes bud. If you're going to debate that robbing and killing innocent people isn't robbery and murder then...I guess I have no idea what else to say.

[anonymous]

a former SEAL told me that the ****li pirates were apparently going to have the hammer dropped on them before an order from the top cancelled the op due to media attention.

let's hope the current admin follows through with the plan

You cant exactly blame the pirates. They have literally no other source of income and if they dont do this, then they would die. I would do the same thing if i were in their place and so would you probably

lol strong irony in pointing out other peoples lack of understanding of the region. brb demanding million dollar ransoms and driving Lexus's around my village 'to survive'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7650415.stm

[AlanSugar]

seals= 2 bit mob

fukin pathetic 300 million people more military spending than anyone else in world yet you cant string together a decent spec ops team to rival sas.

[Gator286]

****li piracy is the product of a countries destabilization and the exploitation by western and eastern corporations who have added insult to injury. With further aggression the whole piracy deal will only get worse and worse.

I certainly agree with you that ****lian people have been exploited both by internal and external forces over the course of the past couple decades. However, take a look at this map.

http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?opt...map&Itemid=219

Don't maritime boundaries only extend a few hundred miles away from coast? Many attacks are made way outside of ****lia's boundaries. And while initially, one could argue that the money ransomed could be spent on food and other necessities, this is certainly no longer the case. Most of the actual "pirates" are young men, who are easily impressionable by money. They get a cut of the loot, and go home and spend it on useless crap to show off in their respective communities. Not only that, but most of the money goes to war lords who just invest it in more piracy.

Empathy doesn't equal condoning their actions though. How is this different from a drug dealer in a chitty neighborhood? Both are products of their environment, and both should expect to deal with the consequences.

And to your point about further adding insult to injury. In these cases, there are 2 basic options:

1) Pay the ransom - Not a smart move at all unless completely necessary. It's like feeding a whining dog, they'll just keep coming back for more and more.

2) Deal with them accordingly - More and more likely with each new attack.

[jesterin]

seals= 2 bit mob

fukin pathetic 300 million people more military spending than anyone else in world yet you cant string together a decent spec ops team to rival sas.

And so it begins.

[suave2000]

eh.... who knows.


people in the hood always the excuse "its the only option we have"

when i could buy some 10 dollar slacks, a 15 dollar shirt and 20 dollar shoes, apply at a full time McDonalds position and make enough to support myself, they just choose the easy way out.

Not saying they have the same opportunities that people in the bad parts of the US have but im saying people are full of sh!t, ill bet they could make a living Some way

instead of spending thousands in millitary operations to rescue hostages, why not use that money to solve the actual cause of the problem, ****li pirates commit "crime" becouse they have no other choise, maybe aiding theire economy would be more beneficial that sending a warship to kill them every month or two...

im no expert but just sending a rescue team there must be pretty expensive, not to mention ineficient, they may kill the pirates but many more will replace their spot unless the problem is solved.

[suave2000]

I certainly agree with you that ****lian people have been exploited both by internal and external forces over the course of the past couple decades. However, take a look at this map.

http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?opt...map&Itemid=219

Don't maritime boundaries only extend a few hundred miles away from coast? Many attacks are made way outside of ****lia's boundaries. And while initially, one could argue that the money ransomed could be spent on food and other necessities, this is certainly no longer the case. Most of the actual "pirates" are young men, who are easily impressionable by money. They get a cut of the loot, and go home and spend it on useless crap to show off in their respective communities. Not only that, but most of the money goes to war lords who just invest it in more piracy.

Empathy doesn't equal condoning their actions though. How is this different from a drug dealer in a chitty neighborhood? Both are products of their environment, and both should expect to deal with the consequences.

And to your point about further adding insult to injury. In these cases, there are 2 basic options:

1) Pay the ransom - Not a smart move at all unless completely necessary. It's like feeding a whining dog, they'll just keep coming back for more and more.

2) Deal with them accordingly - More and more likely with each new attack.

neither is the answer, if you kill them more will come instead of spending money on bullets to kill them it should be spent in reactivating their economy and education, stoping the problem and maybe creating something decent of the place instead of a sh.it hole.

[Gator286]

instead of spending thousands in millitary operations to rescue hostages, why not use that money to solve the actual cause of the problem, ****li pirates commit "crime" becouse they have no other choise, maybe aiding theire economy would be more beneficial that sending a warship to kill them every month or two...

im no expert but just sending a rescue team there must be pretty expensive, not to mention ineficient, they may kill the pirates but many more will replace their spot unless the problem is solved.

It would be a waste. There's no centralized government, so any money sent there would have to go through local lords. AKA that money would never be seen by the people that need it. Any other type of aid would encounter the same problems.

[zar17]

seals= 2 bit mob

fukin pathetic 300 million people more military spending than anyone else in world yet you cant string together a decent spec ops team to rival sas.

troll, but here ya go anyways, real life jason bournes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ities_Division

[asylumz]

[FlexGunmetal]

seals= 2 bit mob

fukin pathetic 300 million people more military spending than anyone else in world yet you cant string together a decent spec ops team to rival sas.

BRB being a miserable British person.

[Manchester_Brah]

inb4 American special forces throw a grenade at the people they're supposed to save

[SilverSpork]

I don't even understand why the navy has to fire warning shots and stuff. Just kill them all. They're lawless scumbags who deserve to die. So much easier just to blast their faces off and throw em in the water.

In b4 crybabies.

P.S - this is what the pirates would do if given the chance

You can blame the pussy liberals.

Come on, let's be fair to them! Maybe read them poetry.

[PraetorianG]

seals= 2 bit mob

fukin pathetic 300 million people more military spending than anyone else in world yet you cant string together a decent spec ops team to rival sas.

pffffffft

SAS is also overrated.

SBS and CIA is where it is at.

[Bishamon]

Doesn't matter what its a product of, you unbelievably stupid mother fuker. They rob and kill innocent people..that makes them thieves and murderers. Sorry, but thats the brakes bud. If you're going to debate that robbing and killing innocent people isn't robbery and murder then...I guess I have no idea what else to say.

ever heard of prevention being better than cure. Let my try and put this in as simplistic terms as I can. No amount of aggression will ever stop the actions of pirates capturing vessels of the coast. And seeing as it is an important shipping route, you wont find companies not using the route anytime soon. The crux of the problem is the instability of mainland ****lia. The you have the issue of ****li fisherman being driven from their source of income buy foreign vessels taking liberties and the dumping of toxic waste on these shores. For every successful capture of a pirate ship there are about 5 which are not so successful and often end up in companies paying millions of dollars to ensure the safety of the crew.

You have no idea what to say because you are a buffoon who has chose to comment on an issue he does not have even a remote grasp of and has done nothing but blare out ignorant and obtuse statements about the which provide insight into nothing except the extent of your own stupidity. Leave the intelligent discussion to the big kids brah.