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Thread: The Journey of the Skinnies
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01-23-2013, 10:04 PM #3391
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01-24-2013, 07:59 AM #3392
Hi everyone I am new to this forum and to body building but recently i have decided i am sick of being stick thin and small and decided that i want to pack on some size
everyone i know apart from 2-3 people are telling me i cant do it as i dont have the right body type or my metabolism is too high but these type of people make me want it more.
i am currently Around 6.0 tall and weigh 154lbs (two weeks ago), My gym days are usually monday wednesday and friday though i sometimes drop a sunday in.
my mainrestraint with doing this is Budget wise, i started my program two weeks ago and while its hard its something im enjoying am currently getting in between 3-4k calories per day but should be able to up to around 5-5500 if needed like i said the amount i have to spend would be an issue.
i am currently eating 4 fresh eggs per day (laid that day as have chickens) and drinking 4 pints of whole milk would there be any major health issues with this my lunch is usually what they have at work canteen and food when i get home rotates between chicken breast beef and salmon i also eat 2-3 tins of tuna per week normally on gym days and take a whey suppliment
apologies if this is all jumbled and difficult to read but if anyone has any tips or hints they would be greatly welcomed . thanks Duane
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01-24-2013, 10:35 AM #3393
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unless your gaining about 3lbs+ per week your not getting 4k+ cals a day i can assure you. You need to count more accurately and get a food scale. I am 180lbs and a former skinny. When i eat 4k a day i gain almost 2lbs a week. Also post your routine. Are you doing any cardio or are you highly active playing a sport or something?
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01-24-2013, 03:57 PM #3394
im putting my daily food intake into the myfitnesspal log and its saying im getting between 3-4k a day so prehaps its nutritional values are wrong i shall have to check
i am Doing about 5 mins worth of cardio on the rowing machine at the start of my session
following on from the cardio i am doing bench 4 sets of 10 squat 4x10 deadlift 4x10 militery press 4x10 and bent over row 4x10 weight isnt that high atm as im working on getting my form right
my job does involve alot of heavy lifting if that would affect it at all
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01-24-2013, 04:42 PM #3395
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01-24-2013, 09:16 PM #3396
There is a big difference between 3k and 4k. I would suggest you shoot to eat 3.5k consistently everyday for the next few weeks and see if your weight goes up. If it doesnt, jump to 4k consistently everyday and see if it goes up.
That is all there is to it. Fitting the food in during busy schedules is the challenging part.▪██─────██▪ Ivanko Barbell Crew #70 ▪██─────██▪
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01-25-2013, 06:06 AM #3397
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01-25-2013, 06:12 AM #3398
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01-25-2013, 09:19 AM #3399
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01-25-2013, 10:12 AM #3400
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01-25-2013, 10:13 AM #3401
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01-25-2013, 07:00 PM #3402
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01-26-2013, 05:43 AM #3403
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01-26-2013, 09:24 AM #3404
Back in the gym! After a terrible week, I hit it up again on Friday, please take a look. .
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1016107833
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01-26-2013, 09:31 AM #3405
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01-26-2013, 12:42 PM #3406
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01-26-2013, 05:48 PM #3407
Gotcha. Ideally some chicken and potatoes or rice.
But if time is an issue, im not sure if you have protein powder around. I would go with 1-2scoops whey and then 2pgj sandwhiches. Good balance of Proteins carbs and fats like that and you can finish it within minutes or while driving.▪██─────██▪ Ivanko Barbell Crew #70 ▪██─────██▪
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01-26-2013, 06:41 PM #3408
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Skinny guy here... have never been to dedicated to lifting but was wondering how difficult it is for a lanky kid to get bigger. I'm about 6'5" 170lbs irish dude and have always been able to eat a good amount and not put on weight so I've thought it would be hard to "bulk" as I see it being called on here.
Not trying to get huge just want to look less breakable, any tips/ideas?- Red Wings -
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01-26-2013, 06:46 PM #3409
Hey Guys,
I am new here and been prowling about on BB.com for a while watching videos and etc. Started doing a 12 week challenge recently just because as most of you are - fed up with being a twig... I figured id throw in a healthy change and stop drinking too, so two birds with one stone really. I will only be doing it for 12 weeks and no more as I feel I have allready missed out on a lot by sacrificing my time.
Basically I am starting out at a measly 75kg and 5ft10 height. I have accumulated some fat as i am a pencil pusher day time. I am slightly concerned that I will loose weight first before I see any gain, I expect the fat to dissapear leaving skin and bones. Kinda really afraid of that.
So recently I hit the gym with my first week complete and muscles in agony etc. Gosh feel so stupid picking up a 6kg dumbell when the guy next to me is 4 times bigger and is puffing out 30kg as if its made of plastic.
Anyway, I wanted to say that the advice i read almost everywhere is unsuitable for our body types. Its complete bull****. Complex carbohydrates etc - who comes up with that. Really complex carbs, especially from fiborous veg and wholegrain is retarded because energe is spent digesting it before you get anything back. Its real hard to digest because ... wait for it... its fiborous (loads of fiber).
I found in general that I should eat like a pig and eat the foods that appeal to me not some god damned diet. I dont need to diet, I need to gain weight. FFS am I the only one that is frustrated here? Basically I eat as much meat as I can grab, followed by sweets, fruit the whole lot. The only thing I keep consistent is that I eat, pardon me, wrong word... I DEVOUR hundreds of chickens weekly. I am a true carnivore - wouldnt be surprised if I sprung fangs soon. As for everything else, it dont matter white rice, brown rice, there no race discrimination in food. With my body type I can eat pure fat for all I care, my body will just get rid of it one way or another.
My high metabolism and efficient digestive system means the body takes only what it needs and it burns it hard. So I just try to eat as much as possible as often as possible. Been seeing some gains recently, will report back after week 2 is over.
My tips are that you generally mix your own protein shakes. I use a large scoop of whey isolate, a large scoop of ground oats (I grind them into a fine powder), a half scoop of casein isolate, 2.5g creatine. I use this shake before and AFTER workout. I also devour a packet of gummy bears in the changing room or just outside or as im waling out of gym. The sugar will spike insulin and in the anabolic state, promote muscle growth. When I get home i eat a meal and then hour later, I make a scoop and a half of casein/big spoon of peanut butter and milk shake. I consume the shake right before bed.
Generally i eat 6 times a day.
That is it for my diet. According to most guides and program mes im doing everything correct. Will keep updated.
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01-26-2013, 11:10 PM #3410
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01-27-2013, 01:22 AM #3411
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Oh man, there is so much wrong with this statement. Don't be disheartened, this isn't because you're an idiot, it's because you are new and don't have the experience - we've all been there, you're on the right track posting on here and as long as you're able to accept advice then I'm sure people will help you. If you posted this as a new thread in the nutrition, expect to be ripped a new one.
12 weeks is an OK time to do a challenge but if you're not going to keep it up afterwards, you will lose your gains.
Fibrous veg and whole grains are actually great sources of calorie, I would absolutely not recommend getting most of your calories from sugars (bad teeth, bad digestion through lack of fiber), I would suggest you read the stickies in the nutrition section (the ones at the top), work out your macros and hit your targets from foods you like and make sure your overall diet doesn't lack any fibre, fat, protein vitamins etc. Keep a log of what you eat so you can keep track of this every day.
You don't have a "high metabolism that takes what it needs and burns it fast", you just don't eat enough. This is why keeping a food diary is important.
As for the insulin spike, I don't know enough about this, but I've read on here, it's q load of rubbish.1k+
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01-27-2013, 08:02 AM #3412
i have now aquired myself a blender
now as im eating both eggs and oats for breakfast or spaced a few hours apart
would it work to scramble my eggs then add them with 100g of raw oats add in a scoop of whey with some milk and blend myself a shake
(disgusting probably) but would help with the amount of time i have to eat in the morning
as im also finding that after having liquid calories for example the 2 litres of milk im drinking a day its not affecting my appetite so can still eat some solid foods if this makes sense
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01-27-2013, 08:11 AM #3413
I mean I do eat wholegrain rice, wholegrain pasta, wholegrain bread, oats, potatoes and veg. Dont get me wrong... I just know for a fact that eating tat stuff delivers what? About half the calories that eating white rice/white potatoes/normal pasta would deliver. The more fiborous products require a hell of a lot more energy to digest.
What I was simply saying, I can eat twice the amount of my bulkier brother. It wont matter. I eat enough, I finish my dishes and I devour the rest of my girlfriends. That is not the issue. Its the choice of food.
I have eaten healthy for past 1-2 years and it is my conclusion that with my bodytype, this sort of diet does not fly. Not if I want to gain weight. I need to store fat. I need to store fat and I need constant carbs flowing through my system. I cant afford to use up perotein for energy. Id rather increase fat index temporarily by binge eating and let it burn of naturally later, than burn all my fat surplus and end up burnign through my muscle.
Maybe my thinking or logic is flawed, I dont know. Either way, as you say I am trying to eat as much and as many times as possible atm so we will see the results soon.
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01-27-2013, 10:40 AM #3414
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01-27-2013, 10:46 AM #3415
Dont blend raw eggs.
Get pasteurized egg whites from the store, they should be in the milk section. They are perfect because they are basically raw egg whites that are safe to eat AND no yolk which contains the fat and cholesterol.
Another thing I recommend is dry your blender thoroughly, and blend around 500g of oats into a fine powder. Store this in a dry jar somewhere. Whenever I make a shake in the mornings, I first warm the milk to lukewarm temp in a microwave, then I chuck the oat powder, the egg whites, a bit of casein isolate a bit of whey isolate, a banana and some almond powder (i buy mine pre-blended into a fine powder). PERFECT. Has all the nutrient for NOW and LATER, first thing in the morning. I challenge anyone to try and beat that with a better alternative.
I take that shake with an omega 3 fish oil capsule and a multivitamin tablet. What a start to the day, breakfast of a true champ. I sometimes put on Eye of the tiger when I am blending for that extra motivational effect.
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01-27-2013, 12:47 PM #3416
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01-27-2013, 01:00 PM #3417
Hey Guys!
I've been reading this forum posts for sometime and i finaly decided that i'll show myself since i kinda need a little bit of support.
Well atm i dont know how many calories i eat since i didnt count them.
Im going atm 5 times a week to the gym and i'd like to stay there for about 1h and like 15mins since i got tonz of stuff to do and im going to the gym just trying to be more healthy and get some exercies since i have tonz to study. 3/4 times a week i do cardio for 20 - 30mins and i just do all muscle groups so i can get the all in one week. Till now i haven pushed to hard since i wanted to get used to it for a bit. But my biggest challange is getting motivated and eating clean.
Any suggest are welcome and hope the will be fun times withnyou guys around here.
Cheers !
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01-27-2013, 02:42 PM #3418
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01-28-2013, 01:43 AM #3419
Been trying to fall asleep since 1. It's almost 4 now and I don't think I'll be falling asleep any time soon. My brain just won't shut off. And people in my house woke up at 3 for work, started making noise, that didnt help either. I didn't sleep as in, shut of my brain, just been laying here with my eyes closed. Feeling pretty depressed cus I don't even know if I'll have energy to workout or even go to workout. I skipped one day last week, really hate to skip another. Feel like **** now!
Last edited by Willnotquit; 01-28-2013 at 08:17 AM.
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01-28-2013, 06:21 AM #3420
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