First off in the state I live in its not illegal to give nutritional advice without being licensed so I don't wanna hear the its illegal blah blah blah.
Anyone ever done this? One of my clients asked me if she could use one of her session at the grocery store and I said yes. I'm pretty excited about it. I spend almost as much time on nutrition with clients as much as I do training and I'm just as much as a nutrition coach as I am a Personal Trainer and it's been the reason a lot of people have picked me over other trainers. Just wondering if anyone has done this and if its a regular thing you do with new clients?
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Thread: Grocery shopping with a client.
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06-14-2010, 02:14 PM #1
Grocery shopping with a client.
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HOMER: [holds Lisa's suitcase] Somebody's traveling light.
LISA: Meh. Maybe you're just getting stronger.
HOMER: Well, I have been eating more.
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06-14-2010, 04:17 PM #2
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06-14-2010, 05:28 PM #3A.C.E Certified Personal Trainer
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HOMER: [holds Lisa's suitcase] Somebody's traveling light.
LISA: Meh. Maybe you're just getting stronger.
HOMER: Well, I have been eating more.
Squat:560-Raw 565-wraps
Bench:365-Raw
Deadlift:555-Raw
Front Squat-405x2(Raw) 465x1(Wraps)
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06-14-2010, 09:37 PM #4
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06-14-2010, 09:40 PM #5
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A lot of businesses down here do that. Shopping tours.
It's a good idea if you can group the people together at the same time (those with similar goals that is). Excellent exposure to the general public as well. It's them getting a first hand look into what you do, and more importantly, that you care about people.
If you seem genuine about what you do, that's very attractive to onlookers.advertising/self-promotion not permitted
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06-14-2010, 09:46 PM #6
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I read all of it.
Yeah it depends on the client. That woman wouldn't have taken your advice under her wing no matter what you said. That's where you have to know when a person is wasting your business time.
They have to take action and physically help themselves. They can't have somebody else do it for them. Direction, fine... But physically doing it for them, no.
PT'ing a client is also about personal development and growth in character, not just a number on a scale.
As for the topic, like i said, it's good if you bunch the "good" clients together. The ones that are genuinely interested in change and have shown action.advertising/self-promotion not permitted
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06-14-2010, 09:47 PM #7
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Poor Keltron. I'm surprised he's not even more bitter and cynical than he already is Alas, sometimes there are some people we just can't help. They always have excuses, always have issues in their life, there's always something totally beyond their control which makes them have a poor diet not supporting their goals, always late or cancelling at the last minute, always unable to do this particular exercise, and so on. So that some particular idea didn't work with them is not a reflection on that idea, necessarily.
It seems like a good idea, going to the shops with them, and Simmo's comment that it's better in a group makes a lot of sense.
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06-14-2010, 10:07 PM #8
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06-15-2010, 02:11 AM #9
I've done it before but not in an official capacity... i.e. client going shopping after and you have to go to so go together. I used to offer it on my website...
I personally think it's a waste of time... It's not going to stop them from getting 3 glasses of wine and eating a loaf of bread at that French restaurant...
What's next, wiping their asses?
Having them join Weight Watchers should cover everything nutrition for more than 90% of the average trainer's clients...
Of course you want to help every client with training and nutrition to the best of your ability but it's not possible to do so w/ a high volume of clients and the sooner you get over it, the sooner you will start making more and better money... (if that's your goal)... I'm saying the way most trainers make more money is w/ a high volume of clients, not 1 individual super-client who pays you an assload of money and shopping is something you'd do w/ those super-clients, not people paying you 30 or whatever an hour...
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06-15-2010, 03:30 AM #10
Well this girl seems pretty dedicated and want's to hit her goals, she trains really hard. Most of my clients weigh and measure everything. Some absolutely refuse. I only bug them about it a couple times then I leave it up to them if they're going to do it or not. Its an additional service I offer if people don't want to take advantage of it its their loss.
A.C.E Certified Personal Trainer
N.E.S.T.A Fitness Nutrition Coach
HOMER: [holds Lisa's suitcase] Somebody's traveling light.
LISA: Meh. Maybe you're just getting stronger.
HOMER: Well, I have been eating more.
Squat:560-Raw 565-wraps
Bench:365-Raw
Deadlift:555-Raw
Front Squat-405x2(Raw) 465x1(Wraps)
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06-15-2010, 08:15 AM #11
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06-15-2010, 08:16 AM #12
There's a little al shades in all of us
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HOMER: [holds Lisa's suitcase] Somebody's traveling light.
LISA: Meh. Maybe you're just getting stronger.
HOMER: Well, I have been eating more.
Squat:560-Raw 565-wraps
Bench:365-Raw
Deadlift:555-Raw
Front Squat-405x2(Raw) 465x1(Wraps)
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06-15-2010, 08:22 AM #13
HAHA
The point I'm trying to make is, if you are an up-and-coming or even established trainer, the way to make the most money is to build a high volume clientele, get them in, get them out, resigns, referrals, and once your so busy you can't handle it, hire another trainer.... open a gym.... the possibilities are endless....
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06-15-2010, 10:09 AM #14
My understanding is that you can give nutritional advice, to perfectly healthy individuals, in any state without issue. Where you run into a sticky wicket is when you give nutritional advice to "cure" or "Fix" an existing medical issue. For instance, you can't give nutrition advice to a morbidly obese client with hypertension and diabetes with the claims that eating in such-n-such a fashion will make them thin, bring their blood pressure down and fix their insulin issues. If *I* were your client, you could certainly tell me that I should eat more veggies.
That all being said, I think this is a good idea, but for the right client. As everyone else has stated, I would just make sure that this particular client had high compliance all the way around the board, and I would probably make them buy an extra session to do the grocery shopping, vice just doing it on my time. They are using a service, if they REALLY want it, they will pay.GoRuck Challenge Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150446113
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06-15-2010, 11:58 AM #15
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Shopping tours with a trainer aren't free. They still cost money.
What a lot of clients do is use up that x amount of time and take it out of their session package overall. So the trainer is still being paid for his time, and in a lot of cases, is knocking out multiple sessions at once since it's a collective group thing.
It's just a different way for a client to use up a session or two.
Don't do it for free out of your own time and your own goodness of heart.advertising/self-promotion not permitted
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06-15-2010, 01:27 PM #16
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I've offered this a few times, never had any takers...yes free. I've even offered to comp one session if some harder clients would go see a dietician I refer to. The way I see it, the better they look sooner, the better I look. But sometimes goodness of heart isn't enough.One rep, one set, one meal...one day at a time. You build a fortress brick by brick.
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06-15-2010, 02:25 PM #17
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Yep, that's why we've reiterated here in the thread that's only for some people. Not everyone will take advantage of the option. But hey that's their loss really.
Like a lot of things in this business though, it's totally dependent on the person/people you're dealin with. Some are genuinely more interested in health than others.advertising/self-promotion not permitted
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you spend hrs at night writing out workouts, trying new things, coach them on carbs, calories, cardio etc. and they dont appreciate it. when you are passionate about your job you do your best to help people reach their goals and it becomes less about the money. but as time goes on, its easy to see whos willing to do the work and who is not. most are not....... people who continue to do the same things over and over get the same results........
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