Question for gun enthusiasts

[jdwhitney]

French?

I lol'd.

[all pro]

Never EVER underestimate guerilla warfare, bud.

[Stizzel]

OP is either retarded or trolling, IMO

[nutsy54]

Facetious tripe, my gun is to defend my life from whomever threatens it.

My gun is to defend the life of my loved ones if someone threatens them.

My gun is to defend my property from those who would take it dishonestly.

My gun is linked to my life always when it is threatened.

My gun is linked to my property always when it is threatened.

'nuf said.

[nutsy54]

Question for anti-gun people.

Why are you so afraid of us law-abiding citizens who own guns? What are you wanting to do so bad that you don't feel safe doing when there are law abiding citizens who own weapons?

A question that I've never seen answered (although I've asked it plenty of times myself).

- Are you afraid of your neighbor driving through your living room window, and killing your children as they watch TV? (Better ban cars!)

- Are you afraid your friends will douse your home with gasoline in the middle of the night, murdering you through arson? (Better ban gas!)

- Do you fear your dinner guest lunging across the table and stabbing your wife in the heart? (Better ban knives!)

All of those are, of course, extreme and absurd examples. Yet if those very same people decide to purchase a firearm, then suddenly they're feared as homicidal maniacs looking for bloodshed at every opportunity.

[mjfan12]

(McBain) "The most dangerous creature of all........................MAN!"(/McBain)

[all pro]

So against US gov?

You really think you can beat the best military in the world with your couple of handguns and semi auto rifles?

From Nutsy54's sig,
The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle. - Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, U.S. Army

Do you know how many Vets there are in the USA?
Think about it.

[jmonty]

trolls

and zombies. can't forget teh zombies.

[AKR]

A question that I've never seen answered (although I've asked it plenty of times myself).

- Are you afraid of your neighbor driving through your living room window, and killing your children as they watch TV? (Better ban cars!)

Just sayin'.


Oh, I also support outlawing sharks.

[BigBen85]

[all pro]

[FutureFoe]

[MattyB4x4]

yessir.

i don't have any tats, but if i do go that route...ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ is definitely on the list.

[Snoopis]

Regarding guerrilla warfare against our own military and the firepower they have - especially tanks, helicopters, jets, etc. - you have to ask: will they use that?

Would they be flying helicopters over Nashville, firing rockets into neighborhoods? Would F-18s bomb Chicago suburbs? Tanks rolling through Fort Worth?

If the answer is no, then a huge part of their advantage is lost. If the answer is yes, then you have to start considering how those actions would affect the opinions of the people in the target areas. Will they just sit back and accept it as necessary, or will they get pissed off and join the fight against the military?

And as others have said, there are a lot of veterans, as well as current military and law enforcement, who would be on the side of the people against a tyrannical government. And a good number of the deserters would bring weapons with them- which could include anti-tank weapons, armored vehicles, etc. Further, there a lot of other countries that would LOVE nothing more than to see chaos in America, and they would have no trouble sending RPGs and other goodies to the US.

[Snoopis]

yessir.

i don't have any tats, but if i do go that route...ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ is definitely on the list.

Careful, I saw a pic of a guy who got MOLON LABE tattooed on his calve, in greek letters, and LABE looked like EBAY.

[nutsy54]

Regarding guerrilla warfare against our own military and the firepower they have - especially tanks, helicopters, jets, etc. - you have to ask: will they use that?

Would they be flying helicopters over Nashville, firing rockets into neighborhoods? Would F-18s bomb Chicago suburbs? Tanks rolling through Fort Worth?

There is no conceivable threat or situation that could lead to those actions by the US military against US citizens.

[AKR]

Regarding guerrilla warfare against our own military and the firepower they have - especially tanks, helicopters, jets, etc. - you have to ask: will they use that?

Would they be flying helicopters over Nashville, firing rockets into neighborhoods? Would F-18s bomb Chicago suburbs? Tanks rolling through Fort Worth?

If the answer is no, then a huge part of their advantage is lost. If the answer is yes, then you have to start considering how those actions would affect the opinions of the people in the target areas. Will they just sit back and accept it as necessary, or will they get pissed off and join the fight against the military?

And as others have said, there are a lot of veterans, as well as current military and law enforcement, who would be on the side of the people against a tyrannical government. And a good number of the deserters would bring weapons with them- which could include anti-tank weapons, armored vehicles, etc. Further, there a lot of other countries that would LOVE nothing more than to see chaos in America, and they would have no trouble sending RPGs and other goodies to the US.

Totally disagree with you in the other thread, but absolutely agree with you on this, and I posted something similar in the outdoor forum.

[andygymboy1]

I'm proud to have a father whom bares firearms to protect those whom we care about from enemies foreign, AND domestic!

[no negs]

[all pro]

There is no conceivable threat or situation that could lead to those actions by the US military against US citizens.

Those who are serving and those who have served know that Nutsy. I think the people that would like to set up a dictatorship know it too. But NATO, mercenaries, Mexican and Canadian troops wont hesitate!

[andygymboy1]

Those who are serving and those who have served know that Nutsy. I think the people that would like to set up a dictatorship know it too. But NATO, mercenaries, Mexican and Canadian troops wont hesitate!

Agreed, as said in a spanish common saying:

"They have us pinned between a wall & a sword"

[-SLASH-]

So against US gov?

You really think you can beat the best military in the world with your couple of handguns and semi auto rifles?

It seems as though you have no clue.

maybe they aren't protecting themselves against anyone. maybe they just enjoy having/using guns.

This is a major thing with me, also.

[nutsy54]

But NATO, mercenaries, Mexican and Canadian troops wont hesitate!

And how, exactly, are NATO, mercenaries, or Mexican troops going to magically appear in the US, under "government" control - And how long do you think they'd last before the US troops started kicking their asses back across the border/ocean?

(Yes, I left Canada off that list, because I see no way in hell for them to begin attacking US cities and citizens. Actually, I don't even see NATO on that list.)

[all pro]

And how, exactly, are NATO, mercenaries, or Mexican troops going to magically appear in the US, under "government" control - And how long do you think they'd last before the US troops started kicking their asses back across the border/ocean?

(Yes, I left Canada off that list, because I see no way in hell for them to begin attacking US cities and citizens. Actually, I don't even see NATO on that list.)

According to Ron Paul there are 30,000 NATO troops already in the country and G.W. Bush did make an agreement with Mexico and Canada to get help in the event of civil unrest. But I agree with you that they would be leaving our country very quickly.......in body bags.

[nutsy54]

According to Ron Paul there are 30,000 NATO troops already in the country and G.W. Bush did make an agreement with Mexico and Canada to get help in the event of civil unrest. But I agree with you that they would be leaving are country very quickly.......in body bags.

If there are really 30,000 NATO troops here, most/all of them are NOT combat troops. They'd be Intel analysts, linguists, support like that, and/or small groups coming and going for routine training and international coordination. Please tell me Mr. Paul isn't pretending there are massive bases all over the country, filled with tanks and bombers and foreign troops, just waiting to attack...

[all pro]

If there are really 30,000 NATO troops here, most/all of them are NOT combat troops. They'd be Intel analysts, linguists, support like that, and/or small groups coming and going for routine training and international coordination. Please tell me Mr. Paul isn't pretending there are massive bases all over the country, filled with tanks and bombers and foreign troops, just waiting to attack...

No he didn't say anything like that. He said there were 30.000 NATO combat troops here for training. Whether or not there is anything sinister going on remains to be seen. At this point I'm more concerned with something along the lines of a civil war caused by starvation and desperation. If wide scale civil unrest were to occur there is no way that local police departments could handle it. If you were charged with getting the situation under control what would you do?

[nutsy54]

At this point I'm more concerned with something along the lines of a civil war caused by starvation and desperation. If wide scale civil unrest were to occur there is no way that local police departments could handle it. If you were charged with getting the situation under control what would you do?

I have no idea - But wide-scale slaughtering of US citizens isn't near the top of my list...

We're now traveling WAY off the path of this thread, into conjectures of nation-wide chaos and subduing an entire population.

[all pro]

I have no idea - But wide-scale slaughtering of US citizens isn't near the top of my list...

We're now traveling WAY off the path of this thread, into conjectures of nation-wide chaos and subduing an entire population.

I agree, we're way off track....so

THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS ARE NON NEGOTIABLE

The the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

[YUL]

Question for anti-gun people.

Why are you so afraid of us law-abiding citizens who own guns? What are you wanting to do so bad that you don't feel safe doing when there are law abiding citizens who own weapons?

because sometimes "law abiding" citizens decide not to obey the law and the consequences are high

[KRANE]

Your presumtion is correct OP. Most of what many gun advocates site as a reason for wanting to own a gun are in reality perceived notions. For one, crooks don't typically break into people houses when they're home. And in those cases when it does happen, it's usually by accidents.

Second, is the stark reality is that you are much more likely to injure yourself or a member of your family with that gun than you are defending your home from a burgular.

[all pro]

because sometimes "law abiding" citizens decide not to obey the law and the consequences are high

Based on your statement they should ban cars because they kill more people each year than guns do. Especially the red ones or any of the ones that have GT in their name. Oh and at least 350 deaths last year because of stun guns so they need to be banned too. Don't forget cell phones because people talk on them while driving and end up killing people....oh and airplanes and bycicles..and....you get the idea.