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    Michael Phelps and his 12,000 cals diet

    as outlined from the Yahoo article:


    Breakfast: 3 fried egg sandwiches, 2 cups coffee, 5-egg omlette, bowl of grits, 3 pieces of french toast, 3 chocolate chip pancakes

    Lunch: 1 pound pasta, 2 ham and cheese sandwiches, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    Dinner: 1 pound pasta, 1 large pizza, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    he's eating pizza and chocolate chip pancakes as an Olympic athlete? What do u guys think about this? I'm not sure that's really his diet during the most important contests of his career.

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    Source:http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100671
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    Originally Posted by Clever_Name View Post
    as outlined from the Yahoo article:


    Breakfast: 3 fried egg sandwiches, 2 cups coffee, 5-egg omlette, bowl of grits, 3 pieces of french toast, 3 chocolate chip pancakes

    Lunch: 1 pound pasta, 2 ham and cheese sandwiches, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    Dinner: 1 pound pasta, 1 large pizza, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    he's eating pizza and chocolate chip pancakes as an Olympic athlete? What do u guys think about this? I'm not sure that's really his diet during the most important contests of his career.

    /discuss

    Source:http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100671
    He swims over 5 hours a day...he can eat whatever he wants. He says he "has" no diet, he eats everything he can.
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    Originally Posted by Clever_Name View Post
    as outlined from the Yahoo article:


    Breakfast: 3 fried egg sandwiches, 2 cups coffee, 5-egg omlette, bowl of grits, 3 pieces of french toast, 3 chocolate chip pancakes

    Lunch: 1 pound pasta, 2 ham and cheese sandwiches, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    Dinner: 1 pound pasta, 1 large pizza, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    he's eating pizza and chocolate chip pancakes as an Olympic athlete? What do u guys think about this? I'm not sure that's really his diet during the most important contests of his career.

    /discuss

    Source:http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100671
    I'm a swim coach, and former HS and Collegiate Swimmer.

    He is most likely eating a ton. I don't know if this is his actual diet, but it could be close.

    From experience, 4 hours in the pool, plus weights, plus dryland burns SO many calories. My teammates and I used to eat tons of food during the season. We used to HAVE to eat some foods not considered "clean" just to meet our caloric needs. Not to mention, with that schedule, you can't eat 6-7 meals a day. The only way to go is a few calorically dense meals with some snacks in between.
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    I'm a swim coach, and former HS and Collegiate Swimmer.

    He is most likely eating a ton. I don't know if this is his actual diet, but it could be close.

    From experience, 4 hours in the pool, plus weights, plus dryland burns SO many calories. My teammates and I used to eat tons of food during the season. We used to HAVE to eat some foods not considered "clean" just to meet our caloric needs. Not to mention, with that schedule, you can't eat 6-7 meals a day. The only way to go is a few calorically dense meals with some snacks in between.
    Not 12,000-15,000 calories worth. That's for damn sure.
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    I'm a swim coach, and former HS and Collegiate Swimmer.

    He is most likely eating a ton. I don't know if this is his actual diet, but it could be close.

    From experience, 4 hours in the pool, plus weights, plus dryland burns SO many calories. My teammates and I used to eat tons of food during the season. We used to HAVE to eat some foods not considered "clean" just to meet our caloric needs. Not to mention, with that schedule, you can't eat 6-7 meals a day. The only way to go is a few calorically dense meals with some snacks in between.
    In fact, this is part of what gave me problems staying lean later in life.

    You get used to stuffing your face with that many calories to survive, it's hard to change. It becomes habit and habits become hard to break. After I stopped swimming, I am still coping with what is a "normal" serving size.

    Going through such varying caloric needs in your life is tough.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Not 12,000-15,000 calories worth. That's for damn sure.
    Probably not.

    I never counted when I swam. If I were to guess, I used to put away 5-7k a day when I had a schedule similar to Michael Phelps. We all used to.

    Some people are shocked that he eats what we would consider "junk food". What most people don't realize is that you can't meet your caloric needs eating only chicken breasts, fruit and oats (if this is your lifestyle).
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    Probably not.

    I never counted when I swam. If I were to guess, I used to put away 5-7k a day when I had a schedule similar to Michael Phelps. We all used to.
    That number is a little more believable, but mind you there is cardio adaption. I doubt he would be burning even that much.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    That number is a little more believable, but mind you there is cardio adaption. I doubt he would be burning even that much.
    Don't know.


    I do know, that I used to stuff my face every time we ate with healthy foods and the unhealthy stuff too. No matter how much I ate, I felt weak, drained, all my muscles hurt, I felt like I was hit by a freight train and I used to have a hard time staying awake in class.
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    Don't know.


    I do know, that I used to stuff my face every time we ate with healthy foods and the unhealthy stuff too. No matter how much I ate, I felt weak, drained, all my muscles hurt, I felt like I was hit by a freight train and I used to have a hard time staying awake in class.
    There is no 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' foods in my opinion. It's all about what's more nutrient dense than others.

    Energy is energy, as carbs are carbs in the grand scheme of things.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    There is no 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' foods in my opinion. It's all about what's more nutrient dense than others.

    Energy is energy, as carbs are carbs in the grand scheme of things.
    From an energy standpoint, absolutely.

    For someone trying to loose weight, the only option is to put the damn fork down.

    However, for me and many others the difference is what the different foods to to you.

    Keto diets curb my hunger and allow me to eat like a normal person. Carby diets do the exact opposite to me. The more carbs I eat, the hungrier I become and the more calories I eat. For me, it's that simple.

    No, I don't believe carbs make me fat and I know it's all about the calories.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Not 12,000-15,000 calories worth. That's for damn sure.
    It is funny how the number keeps growing...the words out of Phelp's mouth was 8,000-10,000. Now this thread says 12,000, and now you are pushing it to 15,000...almost 2x the original number.

    His diet is 8,000-10,000 calories...quit exagerating people!
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    From an energy standpoint, absolutely.

    For someone trying to loose weight, the only option is to put the damn fork down.

    However, for me and many others the difference is what the different foods to to you.

    Keto diets curb my hunger and allow me to eat like a normal person. Carby diets do the exact opposite to me. The more carbs I eat, the hungrier I become and the more calories I eat. For me, it's that simple.

    No, I don't believe carbs make me fat and I know it's all about the calories.
    I never said there weren't benefits of low carb dieting, hell it curbed my hunger tremendously. Just wanted to point that out.

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    Originally Posted by bryanole27 View Post
    It is funny how the number keeps growing...the words out of Phelp's mouth was 8,000-10,000. Now this thread says 12,000, and now you are pushing it to 15,000...almost 2x the original number.

    His diet is 8,000-10,000 calories...quit exagerating people!
    Bull-****.

    It is outlined in his damn book, estimated 12k-15k and at one point 20k calories. Research before you comment.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Bull-****.

    It is outlined in his damn book, estimated 12k-15k and at one point 20k calories. Research before you comment.
    Once again, the words directly from his mouth were 8,000-10,000 calories.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qjwh...eature=related
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    Originally Posted by bryanole27 View Post
    Once again, the words directly from his mouth were 8,000-10,000 calories.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qjwh...eature=related
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1582619980/

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    I never said there weren't benefits of low carb dieting, hell it curbed my hunger tremendously. Just wanted to point that out.

    I agree with everything else, reps on recharge.
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    I guess I see where you are coming from now. I never meant to give you the impression that I thought carbs were bad or made someone fat. I agree that calories are the main thing to keep in mind regardless of diet.

    From a personal standpoint, keto just allows normal calorie consumption for those of us who are always hungry. For me, I enjoy the keto foods too. I've never been a big fan of the Carby foods anyways, so I don't feel like it's a huge sacrifice.

    I do believe that if you are maintaining you can get away with a few more calories on keto, but this is purely based on experience. I wouldn't say it's a ton extra though.
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    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1582619980/

    Right from his fingertips and keyboard.
    I don't see where it says it, but regardless, it was published in 2005, probably written in 2004 right after the Olympics...so perhaps his diet has changed in the last 3-4 years.
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    The more carbs I eat, the hungrier I become and the more calories I eat. For me, it's that simple.
    Yes, it's the insulin response. Eat carbs, insulin spikes, drives blood sugar too low, you become hungry, lather, rinse, repeat.
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    Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Yes, it's the insulin response. Eat carbs, insulin spikes, drives blood sugar too low, you become hungry, lather, rinse, repeat.
    Yes. Probably because my insulin sensitivity sucks.

    On the other hand, my wife is pretty gifted in that area. I wouldn't encourage her to do a keto diet because she doesn't ever REALLY get too hungry. She still low-carb's it up with me though
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    Me too. I am insulin resistant and very carb sensisitve. Not to mention probably gluten intolerant.
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    Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Me too. I am insulin resistant and very carb sensisitve. Not to mention probably gluten intolerant.
    Yep, teh suxzorz.


    Although, I do believe as I loose weight, my sensitivity gets better. This has gotten me before though. It improves with weight reduction. I eat carbs again (probably at maintenance), I notice no problems for a while and keep doing it.



    Then all the sudden............................................ ........ Oh snap, where did that extra weigh come from
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    Originally Posted by bryanole27 View Post
    It is funny how the number keeps growing...the words out of Phelp's mouth was 8,000-10,000. Now this thread says 12,000, and now you are pushing it to 15,000...almost 2x the original number.

    His diet is 8,000-10,000 calories...quit exagerating people!
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    That number is a little more believable, but mind you there is cardio adaption. I doubt he would be burning even that much.
    at one stage i was training only 4 hours a day divided in two and eating 4500-5500 calories a day and leaning out. its more than possible for him to be burning that much, imagine how heightened his burning at rest is!!
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    Originally Posted by BeejGrpA View Post
    at one stage i was training only 4 hours a day divided in two and eating 4500-5500 calories a day and leaning out. its more than possible for him to be burning that much, imagine how heightened his burning at rest is!!
    I disagree 100%.
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    no one ever seems to take into account that he also carries all his olympic medals around his neck everywhere. imagine trying to sim with50 pounds tied around your neck
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    Originally Posted by bking10 View Post
    no one ever seems to take into account that he also carries all his olympic medals around his neck everywhere. imagine trying to sim with50 pounds tied around your neck
    lol
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    Originally Posted by bking10 View Post
    no one ever seems to take into account that he also carries all his olympic medals around his neck everywhere. imagine trying to sim with50 pounds tied around your neck
    I still think MR. T has more gold lol
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    12k Calories is not that much considering the amount of work that he puts in, day in and day out. He also has a metabolism that burns as much at rest as most people do when walking, iirc.

    Didn't one of the older Bodybuilders say that he used to eat like 25k-30k Calories a day?
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    Originally Posted by jked4life View Post
    You get used to stuffing your face with that many calories to survive, it's hard to change. It becomes habit and habits become hard to break. After I stopped swimming, I am still coping with what is a "normal" serving size.

    Going through such varying caloric needs in your life is tough.
    I know what you mean from high school and collegiate cross country/track
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