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[Xenic]

You can't do long term storage of nuts due to the nature of the fats in them and the fact that they go rancid over time.

hmm, ic. any suggestions? other than rice and beans?

[HairyScandinavian]

hmm, ic. any suggestions? other than rice and beans?

For a fat source? How long does EVOO and PB store sealed?

[RyouBakua]

personally i have a lot of canned goods


(its not the best but its good for a few years)


naturally i will scrounge around for food (more canned goods) should anything really happen


some foods that will keep are staples:
rice
sugar
salt
honey
vinegar
cornstarch
liquor

[Xenic]

personally i have a lot of canned goods


(its not the best but its good for a few years)


naturally i will scrounge around for food (more canned goods) should anything really happen


some foods that will keep are staples:
rice
sugar
salt
honey
vinegar
cornstarch
liquor

yea, i've already started buying extra canned food that i can just cycle through... but i wanted to have some long term food storage as well.

i only have 2, 50lb bags of rice so far. not sure if i should be keeping them in some kind of container... as of now they are just sitting in the original bags.

[Nainoa]

hmm, ic. any suggestions? other than rice and beans?

Lentils, Salt, Honey, iodine, popcorn.

[RyouBakua]

what about desiccants?

[Nainoa]

For a fat source? How long does EVOO and PB store sealed?

PB is only as good as the expiration date and then a little longer.

In general polysaturated oils can last up to centuries... So like... Palm oil.

Olive oil is one of the shortest lasting oils, because there is residual chlorophyll in it that will react to light and cause it to go rancid. So Olive oil should be kept in a dark place and then you've got 6 months before all it's good properties are oxidized... And if it makes it to 12 months without going rancid you should consider yourself lucky.


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On a side note... It's almost kind of worth it buy Harold McGee's "On food and cooking" just because he breaks down the science behind all the various food ingredients.

[insomniac23]

how much food do you guys save up? im thinkin id have to salvage what food i can find and hunt the rest + eat leaves etc lolz

[Hartski]

how much food do you guys save up? im thinkin id have to salvage what food i can find and hunt the rest + eat leaves etc lolz

Got a good month of stuff so far. Saving up for a six month or a year supply of long term food storage. If i had the money, I'd buy more.

[jafomofo]

yea, i've already started buying extra canned food that i can just cycle through... but i wanted to have some long term food storage as well.

i only have 2, 50lb bags of rice so far. not sure if i should be keeping them in some kind of container... as of now they are just sitting in the original bags.

lots of stuff will last a long time if its freeze dried. You can buy it in bulk online. Provident pantry and mountain house are good names for this.

If you want to store dry goods you can do that yourself by following youtube tutorials and sealing stuff like rice or flour into mylar bags with oxygen eaters and then storing that in a 5 gallon bucket. Thats probably what you want to do with your rice. You can also buy some stuff from the mormons. I bought 5 cases of their rice, beans, wheat, oats and a starter kit that they sell online. If you have one of their centers near you then you can go in an can it yourself for less.

Its surprising how quickly food can stock up with little effort.

[jafomofo]

how much food do you guys save up? im thinkin id have to salvage what food i can find and hunt the rest + eat leaves etc lolz

enough to say that my problem would definitely be water but then again my idea of prepping is for a disruption in the food supply not really an end of the world situation.

[RyouBakua]

enough to say that my problem would definitely be water but then again my idea of prepping is for a disruption in the food supply not really an end of the world situation.

this

clean water is where its at

[HairyScandinavian]

I've got a lot more water than I have food, and that's not including the jugs in the garage, water heater and all that jazz. Definitely lacking in food.

[CTP1992]

Admittedly, I've been more focused on guns, ammo, gold/silver...

But I think it's time to acquire some kind of food storage. I just want to start with the basics... maybe rice, beans, nuts, etc. Having it last at least 15-20 years would be great

BUY BOOKS... screw gold and silver or any other metal.. you think that stuff will matter when the government wont even let you out of the country?? they'll probably just confiscate it from you.. books on candle making, water filtration, trapping, gardening, etc. is the way to spend your money. If you download them you need to print them off because there wont be internet when SHTF.. you can always keep books..

[CTP1992]

I've got a lot more water than I have food, and that's not including the jugs in the garage, water heater and all that jazz. Definitely lacking in food.

gjdm.. you can always hunt and trap and grow your food.. I would rather spend my time learning how to maintain a productive garden than packing food.. there will be a time when you run out of food and you have to start growing and killing it.. you will always remember how to do whatever skill it is that you taught yourself in the past..

[Nainoa]

BUY BOOKS... screw gold and silver or any other metal.. you think that stuff will matter when the government wont even let you out of the country?? they'll probably just conviscate it from you.. books on candle making, water filtration, trapping, gardening, etc. is the way to spend your money. If you download them you need to print them off because there wont be internet when SHTF.. you can always keep books..

Yep... And not to just HAVE the books... But to learn and practice the skills in those books.


You'd be amazed as you learn all this stuff how many times you're saying to yourself "Damn, if I would have tried this before I would have brought X... Or... Next time I'll do Z to make it easier on myself!"

[RyouBakua]

Yep... And not to just HAVE the books... But to learn and practice the skills in those books.

You'd be amazed as you learn all this stuff how many times you're saying to yourself "Damn, if I would have tried this before I would have brought X... Or... Next time I'll do Z to make it easier on myself!"

one of the voices of truth in this thread

[Hartski]

Haha, I'm sitting in the bar and i hear people talking about Doomsday Preppers saying how it's the dumbest show ever and knocking the whole idea of preparing for things. I'm just sitting here laughing to myself..............dumbasses.......

[RyouBakua]

Haha, I'm sitting in the bar and i hear people talking about Doomsday Preppers saying how it's the dumbest show ever and knocking the whole idea of preparing for things. I'm just sitting here laughing to myself..............dumbasses.......

those are the ones that will be rushing to walmart and clogging the interstate


pay them no mind

[Hartski]

those are the ones that will be rushing to walmart and clogging the interstate


pay them no mind

Yeah, I just feel sorry for those people because the have no idea what's coming. And I'm not about to try and educate them because that lets them know I'm preparing for it. It's all about operational security.

[RyouBakua]

to keep positive here are some things i liked about the new Preppers show



1st guy: shipping container, weapon training, multi-tool (not the tool itself but the idea)

2nd guy: i approve the bug-in idea, (people should be avoided)

3rd guy: biodiesel, vegetable garden

4th guy: hidden storage shed




i think thats about it

[Hartski]

Here's an issue for some thought: I'm getting $1600 back from taxes this year. After my $650 golf membership, I could use the rest to pay down my last credit card, or use it for guns/ammo, gun safe, and long term food and water storage.............what to do, what to do.......

[HairyScandinavian]

Here's an issue for some thought: I'm getting $1600 back from taxes this year. After my $650 golf membership, I could use the rest to pay down my last credit card, or use it for guns/ammo, gun safe, and long term food and water storage.............what to do, what to do.......

I'm paying off an old loan with mine. As much as I want preps and such I gotta play the odds that even when things tank it's not going to be a total collapse where ridiculous amounts of preps will be required.

[Hartski]

Yeah, I should probably put the rest towards my credit card. The money I save on interest will be more money to put towards preps.............but then again............argh! Tough choice.

[Nainoa]

to keep positive here are some things i liked about the new Preppers show



1st guy: shipping container, weapon training, multi-tool (not the tool itself but the idea)

2nd guy: i approve the bug-in idea, (people should be avoided)

3rd guy: biodiesel, vegetable garden

4th guy: hidden storage shed




i think thats about it

Yeah... I only caught the first half of the show with V-Day and all...

After seeing the whole pig demonstration I really want to get myself one of those "Grovels" or whatever he called it. I was totally when he cut a pig in half with little shovel blade!

I was totally grooving on that guy right up until he put his thumb over the end of the barrel to clean a jam and basically blew his friggin' thumb off!

[Nainoa]

Here's an issue for some thought: I'm getting $1600 back from taxes this year. After my $650 golf membership, I could use the rest to pay down my last credit card, or use it for guns/ammo, gun safe, and long term food and water storage.............what to do, what to do.......

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Check the legalities in your area etc... But a Cross bow might be a good idea.

In a situation where you're going to "Bug In" But you're still not in a huge urban area... You're not going to see as many gangs as you will 1-2 man scavengers going house to house.

Shoot a gun and everyone within' 10 blocks knows that your boarded up and otherwise abandoned looking house has people and supplies in it. But an X-bow is silent and you can lay in wait better with it etc...

Just make sure it's legal... And hopefully you have a regular daily life hunting use for it etc...

[lhprop1]

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Check the legalities in your area etc... But a Cross bow might be a good idea.

In a situation where you're going to "Bug In" But you're still not in a huge urban area... You're not going to see as many gangs as you will 1-2 man scavengers going house to house.

Shoot a gun and everyone within' 10 blocks knows that your boarded up and otherwise abandoned looking house has people and supplies in it. But an X-bow is silent and you can lay in wait better with it etc...

Just make sure it's legal... And hopefully you have a regular daily life hunting use for it etc...

Is there anywhere in the US where a crossbow isn't legal? If there is, that's just stupefying.

[insomniac23]

Is there anywhere in the US where a crossbow isn't legal? If there is, that's just stupefying.

very good chance ther illegal in NJ/CA/NY

idk bout you guys but id be making some kinda make shift supressor if SHTF + gov aiint evar coming back

[HairyScandinavian]

very good chance ther illegal in NJ/CA/NY

idk bout you guys but id be making some kinda make shift supressor if SHTF + gov aiint evar coming back

All I know about that is duct taping a 2 liter bottle over the barrel of a .22

[RyouBakua]

you should almost always pay down credit card debt first