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    Heavy Weights!!!!

    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
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    Originally Posted by TANK25 View Post
    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
    Yes......when I can no longer lift heavy
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    Yes, when I have a desire to ride an electric bicycle, I will know that it's time to give up the heavy weights...
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    Originally Posted by TANK25 View Post
    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
    I`M running into more and more guys who are telling me they don`t lift heavy anymore.

    Did you ask them why they don't?
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    Yes......when I can no longer lift heavy
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    Originally Posted by snoack View Post
    Did you ask them why they don't?
    I keep hearing the same stuff you hear all the time.Their joints and getting hurt.
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    Originally Posted by IronCamp View Post
    Yes, when I have a desire to ride an electric bicycle, I will know that it's time to give up the heavy weights...
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    my thought was to get to 2x bb squat which would be 360. but then that is so close to 400. now, when I get there, I'll let you know if I think there is another mountain to climb, but as I stand here looking at these 2 mountains, I am thinking, why would I climb a third mountain?


    Plus, I just came off all those other mountains: 1x bb squat, 225 (2 plates) bb squat, the same on both for deads, also made it to 3 plates bb squat and deads, currently at 325 bb squat and 335 dead lift, .... well you get the picture.

    remember, I just got into this to look good naked. I am thinking I should work on bf% a little more and then I am pretty much done. the problem is my mom, I go there to pick up the kids and she pushes food on me (Italian food- she is the best cook, it's like crack *******). I am going to have to go far away and and eat zero carbs for a week to get rid of these love handles...

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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    Yes......when I can no longer lift heavy
    agreed!! sore joints...take some glucosamine...it works wonders
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    Thanks, I love every avi you have
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    There is some research out there that suggests that people into their 70's and even 80's should be doing some weight training to maintain healthy muscle and bones etc -

    I'm sure as I go past 60 I may start to lose strength (hopefully later than that!) but I think I will always lift in some way or another.

    Alot of old people in the UK eat too little and dont challenge their bodies enough which in turn ages them.
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    My personal experience is that you will eventually hit a wall and heavy becomes nonproductive because you have nowhere to go. What is the first thing every new powerlifting schedule includes? A major drop in weight and some increase in volume. It's the mind over matter thing when lifting heavy that gets in the way! Nobody wants to drop back 30-50 lbs. on a squat. Took forever to get there. So I would say that rotating higher volume workouts with heavier lower volume workouts throughout the year does more good than not. I've been injured 3 times that took me out of the game for 10-12 weeks at a time. Each time I started over the weight was....measly, pathetic. Everytime I not only got back to the original numbers, I always passed them.

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    Originally Posted by TANK25 View Post
    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
    I`M running into more and more guys who are telling me they don`t lift heavy anymore.
    Did they switch to less weight or stop altogether? Just curious.
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    Originally Posted by Fifty+ View Post
    My personal experience is that you will eventually hit a wall and heavy becomes nonproductive.....
    Yes, but I would also suggest that "heavy" become relative, eh? What's heavy to me now, might be more than I can handle in 10yrs, but I'll always lift as much as I can, safely of course.
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    Originally Posted by Fifty+ View Post
    My personal experience is that you will eventually hit a wall and heavy becomes nonproductive because you have nowhere to go. What is the first thing every new powerlifting schedule includes? A major drop in weight and some increase in volume. It's the mind over matter thing when lifting heavy that gets in the way! Nobody wants to drop back 30-50 lbs. on a squat. Took forever to get there. So I would say that rotating higher volume workouts with heavier lower volume workouts throughout the year does more good than not. I've been injured 3 times that took me out of the game for 10-12 weeks at a time. Each time I started over the weight was....measly, pathetic. Everytime I not only got back to the original numbers, I always passed them.

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    Yes, but I would also suggest that "heavy" become relative, eh? What's heavy to me now, might be more than I can handle in 10yrs, but I'll always lift as much as I can, safely of course.
    good points

    I am thinking to rotate the volume v heavy every other session. it seems so easy to get in the rut of going heavy every time. Like I am trying to push to the next db every time I go to the gym. who do I think I am? I am not going to move up 5 lbs on my hammers every time I go. If I did, I would only need to go to the gym 3 more times to accomplish my goal. think about it, I would be able to cancel my membership by the end of the month. it doesn't sound realistic.
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    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
    I`M running into more and more guys who are telling me they don`t lift heavy anymore.
    I have a blog for every occasion. Seriously, read it. It might help.

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    Originally Posted by Fifty+ View Post
    My personal experience is that you will eventually hit a wall and heavy becomes nonproductive because you have nowhere to go. What is the first thing every new powerlifting schedule includes? A major drop in weight and some increase in volume. It's the mind over matter thing when lifting heavy that gets in the way! Nobody wants to drop back 30-50 lbs. on a squat. Took forever to get there. So I would say that rotating higher volume workouts with heavier lower volume workouts throughout the year does more good than not. I've been injured 3 times that took me out of the game for 10-12 weeks at a time. Each time I started over the weight was....measly, pathetic. Everytime I not only got back to the original numbers, I always passed them.

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    This is definately the approach I am taking now. Lifting heavy caused a few injuries that took a loooooong time to heal. I have been lifting lighter with higher reps and am just getting back into some heavier stuff. I am going to do this a few weeks and then back to the lighter/higher rep thing.
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    Originally Posted by Fifty+ View Post
    My personal experience is that you will eventually hit a wall and heavy becomes nonproductive because you have nowhere to go. What is the first thing every new powerlifting schedule includes? A major drop in weight and some increase in volume. It's the mind over matter thing when lifting heavy that gets in the way! Nobody wants to drop back 30-50 lbs. on a squat. Took forever to get there. So I would say that rotating higher volume workouts with heavier lower volume workouts throughout the year does more good than not. I've been injured 3 times that took me out of the game for 10-12 weeks at a time. Each time I started over the weight was....measly, pathetic. Everytime I not only got back to the original numbers, I always passed them.

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    Yeah, but you are talking about periodization. When most people say "I no longer lift heavy", they don't mean they are shifting things around to break through plateaus -- They usually mean that they don't lift heavy weights ever.

    Personally, I can't see any reason at all not to go heavy. I lift heavy alot, and my joints feel great. In fact, the last time I got injured was when I was going light with incline DB press.
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    Originally Posted by TANK25 View Post
    Do you think there should come a time when you should stop lifting heavy?
    I`M running into more and more guys who are telling me they don`t lift heavy anymore.
    When I am dead and buried, or possibly when my compression shorts do not fit anymore.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Personally, I can't see any reason at all not to go heavy. I lift heavy alot, and my joints feel great. In fact, the last time I got injured was when I was going light with incline DB press.
    I agree with what you've said, but keep some perspective; Fifty+ is 17yrs older than you. You'll just have to hope your joints feel as good at 53 as they do now at 36 . Some of us are fortunate down the road, and some of us aren't. It's a unique path for each of us.
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    Originally Posted by Khodiak View Post
    When I am dead and buried, or possibly when my compression shorts do not fit anymore.
    Or when teh MusCletEch runs out and glute shrugs have to be assisted
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    I agree with what you've said, but keep some perspective; Fifty+ is 17yrs older than you. You'll just have to hope your joints feel as good at 53 as they do now at 36 . Some of us are fortunate down the road, and some of us aren't. It's a unique path for each of us.
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    I dunno what will happen in the future. But when I look at blondeamazon's workouts I can see where lifting lighter isn't something to be feared. I'd rather switch permanently to that workout than be all beat up. When/if the time comes.
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    Originally Posted by StressMonkey View Post
    Did they switch to less weight or stop altogether? Just curious.
    They all still workout ,they just don`t lift heavy anymore.
    I`M IN IT FOR LIFE!!!!
    KILL THE STEEL!!!!
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