Depleting carbs

[methodz]

About to go on a DNP cycle but wanted to know what foods are best for depleting carbs?

thanks,

-Hec

[methodz]

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[Hardcore Natural]

The reason you have gotten no responses to your post is because your question does not make sense at all.

Depleting carbs means lowering your overall carb intake over a period of time, and exercising to deplete carb stores....has nothing to do with eating certain foods or certain foods being best for carb depleting. You either lower your carbs and exercise to deplete carbs stores, or you don't. So therefore, everyone who reads your post is confused.

-Todd

[p0opstlnksal0t]

About to go on a DNP cycle but wanted to know what foods are best for depleting carbs?

thanks,

-Hec

why not get there naturally and leave the poison/steroids for the bodybuilders.

[Smelly_Pits]

Eat any food without carbs in them.

[Conciliator]

why not get there naturally and leave the poison/steroids for the bodybuilders.

Some people like to get there faster. And some people recognize that "the dose makes the poison".

[p0opstlnksal0t]

Some people like to get there faster. And some people recognize that "the dose makes the poison".

sounds like laziness for the most part. id understand cutting down before a show, or if you were 8% trying to get down to like 6%. but this cat is clearly over 12% based on his pics. if he wants advise hand in hand with using gear, he needs to check out the steroids section, im sure there are plenty of bros in there that know what they are talking about. and from what ive read, low carb on dnp is a no-no.

[jcosley]

Come people....do some actual RESEARCH on this site before doing something stupid....everyone wants a quick fix but truth is....put in the time and effort and it will come eventually. Nothing good ever comes quickly, its worth it in the long run to do it the right way.

[camaleom]

I am not against roids at all! but if u gonna take them for the wrong reason then i have to say that u r doing something very very stupid!

I think that if u after a good good cut want to take roid to get HHHUUUGGEEE is your body and u can do whatever u want but if u want to take roid just for diet to me is just stupid!

[p0opstlnksal0t]

also the fact that dnp is crazy catabolic. hope u like burning through muscle, and feeling like total crap.

[Conciliator]

sounds like laziness for the most part.

Do you take creatine? Do you take ephedrine & caffeine? Do you take beta-alanine?

Laziness for the most part, huh? Or maybe people can still be busting their asses in the gym while using supplements and drugs to their advantage.

[Conciliator]

also the fact that dnp is crazy catabolic. hope u like burning through muscle, and feeling like total crap.

I love it when people who are ignorant about something make a bad guess and state it as "fact". You even got creative and dramatic, calling it "crazy catabolic", lol. Too bad for you, that's not a fact at all. It's completely incorrect. The opposite is true, as DNP is protein sparing. You deserve some negs.


Here are four references, with quotes:

Harper JA, Dickinson K and Brand MD (2001) Mitochondrial uncoupling as a target for drug development for the treatment of obesity. Obesity Rev, 2, 255?265

In contrast to the use of thyroid extract (also in common use at the time to treat obesity), DNP did not promote urinary nitrogen excretion, so the assumption was made that weight loss could be attributed to a specific loss of fat (47).

Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54.

2. This increase of the metabolism is due mostly to an increase in the combustion of the fat and a little to combustion of carbohydrates.
3. Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine.
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Finally, thyroxine causes a nitrogen malnutrition: it burns the muscle and fatigues the heart. Dinitrophenol-lysidine, to the contrary, causes a lipid-glycemic loss: it is the elimination of reserve materials without attacking visceral and muscle tissue.

Simkins S 1937 Dinitrophenol and desiccated thyroid in the treatment of obesity. JAMA 108:2110?2119.

The extra energy of metabolism is derived mainly from fat and practically not at all from protein or carbohydrate. Consequently, dinitrophenol in therapeutic dosage produces no breakdown of significant amounts of body protein, even with patients on an inadequate protein intake. This is in marked contrast with the very consdierable increase in nitrogen excretion observed in patients undergoing treatment with thyroid. The fat is used completely and satisfactorily broken down, as no ketone bodies are found in urine. There is a no hyperlipidemia or constant change in the fixed and fatty acids of the blood.

Cutting WC, Tainter ML. Metabolic actions of dinitrophenol with the use of balanced and unbalanced diets. J Am Med Assoc 1933; 101: 2099?2102.

Dinitrophenol, used in doses of therapeutic range, caused increases in metabolism of the usual magnitude irrespective of the type of diet. The nitrogen excretion was never greater than the intake, even when the subjects lost as much as 5 pounds in body weight during one week. From this it seemed probable that there was no actual tissue breakdown during these short periods of heightened metabolism, but that the loss of weight was due to the utilization of stored carbohydrate or fat. This does not mean, of course, that tissue breakdown would not occur if the drug should be given over longer periods, but probably when materials other than protein are available these are utilized first. Thus the assumption might be made that, as long as the protein intake is adequate, any reduction in body weight is not primarily at the expense of the tissue proteins.
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3.The subjects excreted less nitrogen than they ingested, yet there were definite losses of body weight. Therefore, body proteins probably were not broken down. The output of urinary organic acid was not increased, thus indicating that the fats were completely burned without giving rise to acidosis.

Don't make stuff up and pretend it's factual, as you're liable to get called out on it...

[p0opstlnksal0t]

Do you take creatine? Do you take ephedrine & caffeine? Do you take beta-alanine?

Laziness for the most part, huh? Or maybe people can still be busting their asses in the gym while using supplements and drugs to their advantage.

I agree, but where do you draw the line? judging by homies pics i think he can progress quite a bit further naturally without the use of chemicals. this is just my opinion on the subject. no intentions here of offending the aas guys, but its clear this cat is lacking the research, and this is when i feel chemicals should be left alone. this dude needs to invest some time into research of the chemicals he plans to administer. dnp is not to be taken lightly.

[p0opstlnksal0t]

sounds good on paper. im sure there is literature that i can dig up stating dnp will cause a loss of muscle. Frankly i dont care, so im not gonna search. ive never used the substance but know many bros that have. not one will say that dnp is not catabolic, as they all for the most part experienced an above average amount of strength loss while using dnp. im not here to argue the effects of dnp, i am just stating why i feel this guy could spare some more training time before jumping into the realm of aas.

I love it when people who are ignorant about something make a bad guess and state it as "fact". You even got creative and dramatic, calling it "crazy catabolic", lol. Too bad for you, that's not a fact at all. It's completely incorrect. The opposite is true, as DNP is protein sparing. You deserve some negs.


Here are four references, with quotes:

Harper JA, Dickinson K and Brand MD (2001) Mitochondrial uncoupling as a target for drug development for the treatment of obesity. Obesity Rev, 2, 255?265

Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54.

Simkins S 1937 Dinitrophenol and desiccated thyroid in the treatment of obesity. JAMA 108:2110?2119.

Cutting WC, Tainter ML. Metabolic actions of dinitrophenol with the use of balanced and unbalanced diets. J Am Med Assoc 1933; 101: 2099?2102.Don't make stuff up and pretend it's factual, as you're liable to get called out on it...

[p0opstlnksal0t]

cant find any research showing dnp as catabolic... in fact it seems its not catabolic at all. im under the impression most of my buddies have experienced catabolism due to such a deficit in their diets while running this chemical, or it can be attributed to the t3 they cycled with the dnp.
neg if u please

[Conciliator]

cant find any research showing dnp as catabolic... in fact it seems its not catabolic at all. im under the impression most of my buddies have experienced catabolism due to such a deficit in their diets while running this chemical, or it can be attributed to the t3 they cycled with the dnp.
neg if u please

Props for being honest and for being willing to reconsider things. No negs

[gecko2424]

I love it when people who are ignorant about something make a bad guess and state it as "fact". You even got creative and dramatic, calling it "crazy catabolic", lol. Too bad for you, that's not a fact at all. It's completely incorrect. The opposite is true, as DNP is protein sparing. You deserve some negs.


Here are four references, with quotes:

Harper JA, Dickinson K and Brand MD (2001) Mitochondrial uncoupling as a target for drug development for the treatment of obesity. Obesity Rev, 2, 255?265

Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54.

Simkins S 1937 Dinitrophenol and desiccated thyroid in the treatment of obesity. JAMA 108:2110?2119.

Cutting WC, Tainter ML. Metabolic actions of dinitrophenol with the use of balanced and unbalanced diets. J Am Med Assoc 1933; 101: 2099?2102.Don't make stuff up and pretend it's factual, as you're liable to get called out on it...

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