Finally have internet.
Getting the last batch of glassless mirrors shipped out soon. I'll take some pics after Thanksgiving of the final setup.
I want to get the Panatta tricep (multipurpose) cable attachments out, but I just need a breather until I get some more time off. I haven't gotten back to anyone who PM me about the Panatta tricep. I haven't forgotten about anyone.
I'm also at the point where I need to keep trimming down what I own. I will be trying to eliminate redundancy and any machines that are too similar. I'm at the point where I need an absolute *minimum* of a 3000-3500 sq foot room to hold everything, preferably 4,000-4500 sq feet. I'd either like to decrease that requirement, or get more 'luxury spacing' between machines. I'd also like more room for the free weight area with lots more open space.
Speaking of which, here is the current list I have that I'd like to part with for more room:
1) Sorinex/Reflex Dumbell spotter stands
2) Pendulum Plate Storage (by far the most bad ass plate tree on the planet). I simply don't have the space for it.
3) Panatta Incline Flight machine XP Free weight version (plate loaded). I bought the selectorized and plate loaded knowing I probably wouldn't keep both since they are essentially the same machine. After doing a few sets with each machine, I decided to keep the Selectorized version for the simple reason that it is more convenient. I was worried that the Heavy stack would not be adequate, but it turns out that the 120 Kg stack is way more than adequate. The standard stack is 80 Kg. The Heavy stack version is 120 Kg.
At the moment, I can't even do a single rep with 80Kg. 70 Kg is my single rep max at the moment. Remember pulley physics/ratios play a role on the actual weight, which feels more than the selected weight. For example, the old FLEX FITNESS 30 degree Pec Fly: not a bad machine biomachanically, but I can do the entire stack for 20+reps... it made the machine useless for me. Nonetheless, The Panatta footbar and biomechanics are superior anyway.
So that being said, there is no good reason to own both a selectorized and plate loaded Incline flight machine. Since I already purchased both, I'll keep the selectorized for convenience sake. The good news on the Panatta XP Free weight (plate loaded) version, is that it is not a plate eater. You don't need a lot of plates on it. Beautiful and wonderful machine, I just can't afford to have 2 of the same.
If anyone is interested, let me know. I'm going to put it on EBAY in a week or so. I'm not going to discounting this piece very much from what I paid, because it is literally brand new. Nonetheless, I thought I'd mention it here first.
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11-16-2014, 01:31 AM #6781{}---{} Best of the Best Machines and Free Weights Crew #1 {}---{}
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11-16-2014, 09:27 AM #6782
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11-16-2014, 09:39 AM #6783
The guy who said they were crap is the village idiot. I just got my delivery of the Super Incline Bench and the Lat Convergent from Chris' 1st order and they are both insanely good pieces. Literally everything about them is top-notch. The planes/ranges of motion on both machines are perfect and they look pretty bad-ass to boot.
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11-16-2014, 12:35 PM #6784
Are the weight horns plastic coated, or is that an illusion (they look less glossy than other black parts)?
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11-18-2014, 10:50 PM #6786{}---{} Best of the Best Machines and Free Weights Crew #1 {}---{}
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11-18-2014, 11:07 PM #6787
I know we talked about these two Free Motion squat machines in this thread before, but I wanted to bring them up again. I'm sure many have tried these two machines since they are common in many commercial gyms.
I have to say, I still think about these two Free Motion Squat machines. I think they both are very well thought out. Free Motion makes a handful of top notch machines. There is just something about the curved footplate and motion path of their two squat machines. Its not like I'd chose these over a Pendulum power squat Pro, but I miss using these two machines. Both versions feel the same biomechanically. From what I recall, the weight stack is adequate on the selectorized version. Girls would probably appreciate the selectorized version. Both machines 'feel' equally great. The selectorized version is great for supersetting and rapidly changing the weight. The 'bicycle' handle (feels like a bicycle brake handle) is great for adjusting the range of motion on the selectorized version). Both versions have that amazing curved footplate, something other power squat machines of the same type do not offer.
The one thing potentially lacking on these machines, is the ability to turn around and do a front power squat. However, as an owner of the pendulum power squat, no power squat machine (front facing) can compare to the front facing Pendulum Power Squat. The special thing about the Free motion machines, is that they are completely optimized for the standard squat. If you are a Pendulum Power Squat Pro owner and also have another power squat machine, you might want to consider one of these Free motion versions since they are completely optimized for one direction. That curved footplate of the Free Motion squat machine keeps calling my name. Its not just the curved footplate, the motion path and biomechanics just seem great with those two machines. I guess after going full circle a few times, those two squat machines are still calling my name. Its a tough call between the selectorized and plate loaded version.
Ignoring height of course the footprints are:
Selectorized: 89" L x 36" W = 3204 in^2
Plate Loaded: 74" L x 56" W = 4144 in^2Last edited by HealthNutMD; 11-18-2014 at 11:31 PM.
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11-19-2014, 11:44 AM #6788
Thanks Chris
Hi Chris.... Just wanted to say thank you for heading up the Panatta order. I received the Panatta Super Incline and the Preacher/Spider Curl bench. Just as you have described many times on this thread ... The Panatta equipment rocks. And I mean in looks, mechanics, quality of workmanship... Everything!
I ordered mine with the option of being able to disassemble it so I could get it through the door. I had a slight problem with reassembling it and Chris was a total stand up guy! He contacted Panatta and I had a solution to my problem the next day!
Last year as a direct result of Chris's recommendations I purchased a Flex Prone leg curl (bar between legs version), a Rae Crowther super power rack, and Super Awesome bench, a Parrillo curved incline bench, and several MAG grip cable attachments. I'm happy with all of my purchases.
So thanks Chris for all the time, money, research, and personal sacrifice you have invested into this project! I've benefitted from it greatly. If you do another Panatta order in the future I would have total confidence in working with you again. The project continues....
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11-22-2014, 07:02 PM #6789
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12-01-2014, 10:52 PM #6790
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Those panatta machines look awesome! (shameless bump due to searching too many pages to find this thread...)
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12-02-2014, 02:32 PM #6791
This looks interesting.
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12-02-2014, 02:42 PM #6792
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12-02-2014, 03:17 PM #6793
Why???
I don't get it. This looks like a solution in search of a problem. An over engineered adjustable functional trainer/cable cross. It's like the inventor saw a fixed cable cross, thought "hey wouldn't it be great to be able to have pulleys at different heights instead of just the top and bottom?" and went to work designing this monstrosity in a lab somewhere. Someone should have pointed out that adjustable height pulleys had been invented already and they didn't require you change handles when you change the height every time either!
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12-02-2014, 09:12 PM #6794
Not sure of what benefit the curved footplate is. I also find disappointing that the footplate width on most squat/hack squat machines is not large/wide enough to allow a greater variety for foot positioning and muscle emphasis. The for-comparison picture of the footplate of the Nebula leg press machine is below.
How the Freemotion plate-loaded machine compares to Hammer Strength V-squat machine? I really like the V-squat machine.
About biomechanics: Is the feel somewhat same as when using the Randy Coyle swing squat?
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Nebula Leg Press Machine
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12-14-2014, 04:40 PM #6795
Pendulum Power Squat Pro
Was able to pick up Rogers Pendulum Power Squat Pro off UTennessee auction last fall (thanks again to Gregg for all your help in securing it for me until Goalder could pick up)... so have now decided to part with original Pendulum Power Squat Pro. Please pm me if you would like to make an offer. Hoping to find this classic piece a great new home!
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12-14-2014, 07:08 PM #6796
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chris is the 495 pound max weight including the weight of the user or just the max weight for the horns? for the 30 degree pec
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12-14-2014, 07:28 PM #6797
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12-14-2014, 08:33 PM #6798
I made a mistake. I think the above machine is actually Elitefts Monster Mondo Leg Press. Yes, it's isolateral. Nebula Leg Press looks pretty similar and also isolateral. See the second picture. BTW, Nebula was acquired by Rogue Fitness.
http://www.flexcart.com/memberS/elit...d=167&pid=1376
Elitefts Monster Mondo Leg Press
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12-14-2014, 10:15 PM #6799
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12-16-2014, 07:28 AM #6800
You outbid me on that auction. I did have good luck picking up an original University of Michigan Pendulum Leg Press from a local high school for $300.
There is a black extra bar, square in cross section, about 1 foot long that has holes space about every inch that is bolted at 45 degrees to one the uprights supporting one of the bearings. I have no idea what it is for. You can bearly make it out in the pics, I will try to get a better picture.
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12-16-2014, 11:22 AM #6801
Here is some nice cost no object stuff in Chicago / Michigan area that just popped up: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/spo/4807757953.html
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12-16-2014, 11:23 AM #6802
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12-16-2014, 01:04 PM #6803
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12-17-2014, 10:40 AM #6804
Any opinion about "hack press" machines? I never had the opportunity to test one of them, but it always seemed interesting to me, mainly to avoid back pressure.
The most common model as far as I know is the Hammer Strength one:
i.imgur.com/5K9pGXm.jpg
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i.imgur.com/K225YUI.jpg
An other who seems interesting is the Atlantis one:
i.imgur.com/gFe44fy.jpg
I've noticed a Body Masters model too:
i.imgur.com/hGlegka.jpg
....a non professional Powertec model...:
youtube.com/watch?v=WtpM4QFSM6g
...and finally I've noticed that Panatta have presented a new model: "Calf-Hack machine" during the Arnold classic Europe a few weeks ago:
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i.imgur.com/KtCjqoc.jpg
Regarding the size of linears tubes on the Panatta model with Hammer Strength and Atlantis ones, it seems a bit cheap, in comparaison, but I wonder if it can make a real difference....moreover I doubt that Atlantis and Hammer Strength use full plenty tube in that dimension... It seems tremendous.
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12-18-2014, 07:13 AM #6805
Mike,
Really like the machine, even better that the Rogers Hip Press machines I tried at Michigan State. The seat is not as pretty but is more comfortable. Had a terrific leg day.
I notice you are selling your MedX Avenger on Ebay. It seemed like a great machine to me though the MSU hockey strength coach indicated he thought it might be possible to strain the back by going to deep + too heavy with it. How do you compare it to the Pendulum Hip Press?
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12-18-2014, 07:41 AM #6806
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It is a totally different animal than the pendulum. The medx can be adjusted to give you 3 basically different exercises. I would love to keep both, but I am trying to free up some space in the gym. The only complaint I have heard of the MedX avenger is sometimes the strength curve lets off a little too much at the end of the exercise, but that can easily be corrected with a band so I don't really see that as a draw back.
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12-20-2014, 02:56 PM #6807
Nebula or other vertical leg press
Hi,
Can someone help me finding a Nebula or Streamline vertical leg press? Thank you! Other good commercial ones as King Fitness are an option too.
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01-02-2015, 09:16 AM #6808
I'm going to start shipping out the Panati multipurpose (Tricep) cable attachments today. Sorry for the delay, its been a busy year.
Again, anyone who wants one, just send me a PM. Anyone who has already sent a PM, please send another one. I'll try to go thru my PM again as well. The cost is $65.00 + shipping + box. I'm going to the post office today to see what kind of box I can buy, as well as shipping costs.
I was hoping to have more pics of the gym, but my contractor is being a typical contractor... He was supposed to put the last 6 glassless mirrors up: 76 x 100" but has cancelled 3 times already. Contractors suck.
I'll most likely be putting my Atlantis Power Squat (with modified extra large foot platform) up for sale soon). Its still my favorite of its kind front and rear facing, but with a pendulum power squat and all of the other leg presses and power squat machines I have, this was next on my list for downsizing.{}---{} Best of the Best Machines and Free Weights Crew #1 {}---{}
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01-02-2015, 11:07 AM #6809
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Do you have some of the glassless mirrors up already then?
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01-02-2015, 01:56 PM #6810
Yes a bunch of them... just need my contractor to quit cancelling on me and get out here.
Cant stand contractors, so unreliable.
Went to the post office. Shipped.
For anybody who wants one, the price is $65.00 + $20.00 S/H (I have to buy cushioned mailers for each one).
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