-------Real Talk--------

[steffo99]

I think we waited long enough already and it's time to act. Invade Norway.

[Minotaur]

XtremeOCD


X-Mas is a way for people to take the Christ out of Christmas.

People think that but it's not disrespectful. It's a very old way of writing Christmas. The X is from Xristos, Christ in Greek.

[quietchef]

is this srs? so when someone posts something that isn't palatable per you, you think that they are potatoes being potatoes? really? LOL

this thread was exactly an invitation for their crusades and agendas. starting with the very first post. any time someone posts something they believe in, someone else is going to chime in with their own beliefs. that's how REAL TALK works.

real talk.

Yes, no, no, no.

I must've misunderstood the original post that the spirit of the thread was to stand on your soapbox and speak your mind, and not to debate.... wait....


Hi pot, I'm the kettle.




Carry on....

[Minotaur]

This kind of thinking works both ways. There are more than just a few individuals who do believe in a God (of their religion, that is) and who disrespect those who do not or who believe differently. It also seems that there are some Christians who love to disparage others who don't believe as they do.

For sure... I was told (here on this site) by someone that he had respect for my beliefs, as "off" as they are. It was politely said, but the fact remains that my beliefs were dismissed as invalid.

[bodyhard]

-----Real Talk------

I've been stressed out for personal reasons at home and I need to find God again, I have to start praying, hopefully my life will move in the right direction once again.

[pharmamarketer]

Political correctness is so one sided in our soceity. Jesse Jackson can suggest that the President needs his nuts cut off and gets a pass by the media. A white Christian duck hunter calls homosexuality a sin and it's on every major network 24/7. F**k political correctness.

I despise Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. You can't get to bigger asholes to be supposed leaders. Al Sharpton especially.

[pharmamarketer]

-----Real Talk------

I've been stressed out for personal reasons at home and I need to find God again, I have to start praying, hopefully my life will move in the right direction once again.

I like to hit the church when no one is there. I just sit in there. It does wonders. Highly suggested

[SP1966]

For sure... I was told (here on this site) by someone that he had respect for my beliefs, as "off" as they are. It was politely said, but the fact remains that my beliefs were dismissed as invalid.

It's possible to respect a persons right and dedication to their own beliefs while also believing them to be misguided or just plain wrong. Respecting another persons right to live as they choose isn't the same as condoning the choice.

[bodyhard]

I like to hit the church when no one is there. I just sit in there. It does wonders. Highly suggested

You know what is weird man, when I walk into a church I get mad nervous like I don't belong. I feel like a hypocrite because I turn to God when things are going wrong. I should always turn to God even when things are good.

With that said I am going to do just what you said I am going to go to church tonight, pray to God and ask for some forgiveness with my selfish ways.

I really need God in my life right now ---REAL TALK------

[Minotaur]

It's possible to respect a persons right and dedication to their own beliefs while also believing them to be misguided or just plain wrong. Respecting another persons right to live as they choose isn't the same as condoning the choice.

This was about religious beliefs. I could have easily countered with saying that to me his beliefs are off too, but what would that gain me? Regardless of the subject, just because you can say something doesn't mean you should, and not think there won't be some kind of repercussions. People don't need to express their opinions all the time under the guise of free speech.

[SP1966]

This was about religious beliefs.

Especially when it comes to religious beliefs it becomes virtually impossible to both respect and accept an opposing opinion. Faith tends to be pretty cut and dry, respecting another's choice and accepting it as valid aren't mutually exclusive IMO.

I could have easily countered with saying that to me his beliefs are off too, but what would that gain me?

Religion, politics, and dietary advice are conversations that never end well! LOL

Regardless of the subject, just because you can say something doesn't mean you should, and not think there won't be some kind of repercussions. People don't need to express their opinions all the time under the guise of free speech.

The truth may always be the best policy. Sharing it isn't always the best choice!

[geek23ka]

For sure... I was told (here on this site) by someone that he had respect for my beliefs, as "off" as they are. It was politely said, but the fact remains that my beliefs were dismissed as invalid.

start NGAF. just about everyone in O35 (hell just about everyone here at bb.com) disagrees with me, politically speaking. i'm ok with that. also, it's always good to look at your beliefs in new slants. maybe you'll see their point. likely not, but you know... maybe. i like new ways of looking at things. an evolving way of seeing life is always a good thing.

Yes, no, no, no.

I must've misunderstood the original post that the spirit of the thread was to stand on your soapbox and speak your mind, and not to debate.... wait....


Hi pot, I'm the kettle.




Carry on....

the dialectic is difficult to ignore. it's human nature.

[pharmamarketer]

You know what is weird man, when I walk into a church I get mad nervous like I don't belong. I feel like a hypocrite because I turn to God when things are going wrong. I should always turn to God even when things are good.

With that said I am going to do just what you said I am going to go to church tonight, pray to God and ask for some forgiveness with my selfish ways.

I really need God in my life right now ---REAL TALK------

That's the nice part. You will always have His ear. It's nice just to sit in silence sometimes. I enjoy it.

We all have sin. It's what you do with it and how you learn from it that matters IMO

[geek23ka]

This was about religious beliefs. I could have easily countered with saying that to me his beliefs are off too, but what would that gain me? Regardless of the subject, just because you can say something doesn't mean you should, and not think there won't be some kind of repercussions. People don't need to express their opinions all the time under the guise of free speech.

ohhhhh religion. well... no one on earth is Right about that. i think religions/antireligions are like how blind people walk up to different parts of an elephant and try to explain it.

[bodyhard]

That's the nice part. You will always have His ear. It's nice just to sit in silence sometimes. I enjoy it.

We all have sin. It's what you do with it and how you learn from it that matters IMO

Stupid question, but are all churches the same? Can I walk into a church when it is closed (meaning no service) and not get into any trouble?

[pharmamarketer]

Stupid question, but are all churches the same? Can I walk into a church when it is closed (meaning no service) and not get into any trouble?

If it is open you are good. Sunday is a good day to do it

[bodyhard]

If it is open you are good. Sunday is a good day to do it

Kool man, thanks I will go there tonight.

[paolo59]

Stupid question, but are all churches the same? Can I walk into a church when it is closed (meaning no service) and not get into any trouble?

BH you will find that a lot of Catholic churches, especially the larger ones, have an open door policy to enter throughout the course of the day. A lot of churches are not accessible outside of their hours of services. Is there a Catholic cathedral anywhere near you? I loved just sitting in the churches/cathedrals in Mexico. I miss that a lot!

[7Seconds]

I'm an atheist, but I see no point in arguing about it. I don't believe in it, but what the hell do I know? All I know is that I find it easier to get through life not believing in God, Heaven, etc. But if I turn out to be wrong, I think it would be cool if God welcomes me and tells me, "Look, I know I'm a hard thing to believe in and you've got a really logical, skeptical mind, but since you were a good person and you didn't hurt anyone, come on in. No hard feelings.

+ Chipotle should offer bacon; my burrito needs it.

[frozensparky]

BH you will find that a lot of Catholic churches, especially the larger ones, have an open door policy to enter throughout the course of the day. A lot of churches are not accessible outside of their hours of services. Is there a Catholic cathedral anywhere near you? I loved just sitting in the churches/cathedrals in Mexico. I miss that a lot!

I was going to suggest this BH. I used to go to the Catholic Church here and sit in the quiet just to think. Funny thing is out of all the masses I attended it was times like that where I felt closest to him.

[bodyhard]

BH you will find that a lot of Catholic churches, especially the larger ones, have an open door policy to enter throughout the course of the day. A lot of churches are not accessible outside of their hours of services. Is there a Catholic cathedral anywhere near you? I loved just sitting in the churches/cathedrals in Mexico. I miss that a lot!

Yeah there are maybe 2 close by me. I will see if I can get in, just to sit and pray and reflect...

[justboo2u]

You know what is weird man, when I walk into a church I get mad nervous like I don't belong. I feel like a hypocrite because I turn to God when things are going wrong. I should always turn to God even when things are good.

With that said I am going to do just what you said I am going to go to church tonight, pray to God and ask for some forgiveness with my selfish ways.

I really need God in my life right now ---REAL TALK------

That is not hypocrite... that is HUMAN. Admittedly while there is not much difference in some humans I do not see it in you.

Real talk.

EDIT: 'feeling welcome'

I have always dispised 'the hypocricy of religion' since I was 8, my dad died and members of 'the church' where I grew up began ragging on my mom for not getting married 'the next day'. Still, it is one of the few places where I (believe I) felt the 'presence of the "holy spirit"'...
When my oldest brother and I went back 'home' for my nephew's wedding, we stopped at the church (which over the years had been closed, rundown and nearly demolished for structural problems) to find that service had just concluded...
A new congregation had saved it... in more ways than one... and they were preparing to have lunch together in the basement... which seemed ALOT bigger back then...
We spoke to the pastor who told us the story of how he had passed the property and 'was told' to bring it back. Squeaking by, they fix and improve as they can.

Before we left, I went back up into the 'sanctuary'... and there it was... that feeling of 'belonging'... the 'spirit'.

I have felt that only in ONE other.

**searchingforkleenex.jpg**

[Frnkd]

I think it/we gave up on 'manifest destiny' when somebody decided to buy Alaska...

... and I suspect it is more DEvolving, but I would certainly agree with changing!

You can see Russia- oh no "the soviet union" lol from there.

[BlackSwan88]

In the military, there is a saying: trust me with your life, but not your money or your wife.

I find this both true and ironic. I'd easily take a bullet for one of my fellow airman, and I know they'd do the same for me. But everytime we have some type of squadron get together, one of them MF are trying to smash my wife. Caught one last night infact. Likewise, some of them are married to some fine tail....

Seems wrong, but that's life.

[Frnkd]

I sure could use some waffles about now...and throw in some oatmeal.

[Old-Time-Lifter]

I think we waited long enough already and it's time to act. Invade Norway.

Let's invade Denmark and Sweden while we're at it... lots of pretty blondes there.

[morninglory81]

I'm an atheist, but I see no point in arguing about it. I don't believe in it, but what the hell do I know? All I know is that I find it easier to get through life not believing in God, Heaven, etc. But if I turn out to be wrong, I think it would be cool if God welcomes me and tells me, "Look, I know I'm a hard thing to believe in and you've got a really logical, skeptical mind, but since you were a good person and you didn't hurt anyone, come on in. No hard feelings.

+ Chipotle should offer bacon; my burrito needs it.

Personally I believe if you never felt any conviction that you won't be held accountable for that unbelief. Now if you have felt that conviction and then choose to turn away I believe that in that case you will be held accountable for that choice.

[Old-Time-Lifter]

Personally I believe if you never felt any conviction that you won't be held accountable for that unbelief. Now if you have felt that conviction and then choose to turn away I believe that in that case you will be held accountable for that choice.

I'm always amazed that folks put limits on God's Grace. I firmly believe that God practices infinite and absolute Grace.

[morninglory81]

Yeah there are maybe 2 close by me. I will see if I can get in, just to sit and pray and reflect...

If not, find a place in nature that you can see Gods hand in, and pray in the presence of his handy work.

[paolo59]

You can see Russia- oh no "the soviet union" lol from there.

Ha ha! You can brother, if you're on the Alaskan island of Little Diomede. Look across the cold water, and there, low and behold sits the Russian island of Big Diomede some two and a half miles distance. Quotes and misquotes, they be interesting things! LOL Sometimes what we've actually said, isn't quite what's portrayed to others, by others.